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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #6555 on: Today at 10:39:21 am »
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- run 1:40:38, 17.52 km
T+DI ~150 by the end of the run. felt good. HR peaked a bit higher than ideal (140) but only right at the end, on the quite steep climb back up to my house. overall average 127 so i'm not sweating it. same duration as last week's shorter distance, despite it being hotter, because all road.

7 hours time on feet this week, nice.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #6556 on: Today at 11:39:02 am »
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good question. mid to upper 160s for the marathon and upper 160s to mid 170s for the half. watch tells me threshold HR is 155, and that subjectively feels like a point at which running gets more costly. but then again, i went back and re-read davis's articles about LT1 and LT2 and he points out that HR% estimates are incredibly imprecise (or rather, that they vary so much from runner to runner that they're hard to use well). he suggests setting LT2 at 90% of 5k pace and working around that, which would be 4:12 based on my recent 19:07. that's quite a bit slower than estimates on lactrace (4:05-4:07) or coros (4:06). so perhaps i'll just stick with the lactrace paces, heat-adjusted, and not worry so much about HR.

If LT2/threshold is meant to be roughly what you can sustain for an hour, then your threshold HR has to be higher than your average in the half, right? (pace adrenaline/race day modulations). But yeah setting based on races and relying on pace is what Copeland recommends too (iirc the 3/6/10 min reps are roughly at 60/90/150 minute pace, which you can roughly calculate from here: https://www.finalsurge.com/tinman-calculator)