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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2115 on: October 15, 2013, 10:31:04 pm »
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ACHES/INJURIES: right lateral knee tweaking at most flexed point of my normal sprint set-up (?); interior right glute

not sure what was up with my knee. it didn't bother me during running or any kind of moving around, just as i was crouching during the set-up for sprints. cut that bit out of the set-up; i don't think it's necessary anyway and i'm not sure why i do it. will spend some extra time on right upper leg tonight on the foam roller. hopefully it's a passing thing.

That sounds exactly like my recent lateral R knee pain. Sort of a pinching feeling when holding knee in flexed position (especially during crouch start). Is it localised around the tib-fib joint area?

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2116 on: October 16, 2013, 05:33:56 am »
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It's heaps cool that lots of members are running now. Me, Todday, Acole, LBSS, Avishek and even Bmully when he randomly posts. If I ever come to America I'll train with you guys even if we're all masters by that time haha.
Hopefully the knee is nothing serious!
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2117 on: October 16, 2013, 09:35:44 am »
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ACHES/INJURIES: right lateral knee tweaking at most flexed point of my normal sprint set-up (?); interior right glute

not sure what was up with my knee. it didn't bother me during running or any kind of moving around, just as i was crouching during the set-up for sprints. cut that bit out of the set-up; i don't think it's necessary anyway and i'm not sure why i do it. will spend some extra time on right upper leg tonight on the foam roller. hopefully it's a passing thing.

That sounds exactly like my recent lateral R knee pain. Sort of a pinching feeling when holding knee in flexed position (especially during crouch start). Is it localised around the tib-fib joint area?

yep, sounds about right, actually. did a couple of bw squat holds and it didn't bother me then. no idea what could have precipitated it, all i did this weekend was walk around every day and dance a lot on sunday night.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2118 on: October 16, 2013, 09:48:51 am »
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It's heaps cool that lots of members are running now. Me, Todday, Acole, LBSS, Avishek and even Bmully when he randomly posts. If I ever come to America I'll train with you guys even if we're all masters by that time haha.
Hopefully the knee is nothing serious!

yeah and because i'm suggestible as hell t0ddday got me convinced to run and bound and shit even more.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2119 on: October 16, 2013, 04:03:13 pm »
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just signed up to run in an indoor all-comers meet in january or february. there are three and it's cheap to sign up so i went ahead and booked myself into all three because i don't know what my schedule will be like then. i didn't realize until after i signed up that it's not FAT, which is annoying, but it'll still be fun to race.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2120 on: October 16, 2013, 09:45:38 pm »
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ACHES/INJURIES: right lateral knee tweaking at most flexed point of my normal sprint set-up (?); interior right glute

not sure what was up with my knee. it didn't bother me during running or any kind of moving around, just as i was crouching during the set-up for sprints. cut that bit out of the set-up; i don't think it's necessary anyway and i'm not sure why i do it. will spend some extra time on right upper leg tonight on the foam roller. hopefully it's a passing thing.

That sounds exactly like my recent lateral R knee pain. Sort of a pinching feeling when holding knee in flexed position (especially during crouch start). Is it localised around the tib-fib joint area?

yep, sounds about right, actually. did a couple of bw squat holds and it didn't bother me then. no idea what could have precipitated it, all i did this weekend was walk around every day and dance a lot on sunday night.

Yeah mine doesn't really hurt squatting either, except maybe a little twinge when going back up. It's a unilateral loading issue apparently. My physio said the joint itself just gets stiff due to uneven loading during things like sprints, squats, jumps (i.e. all the things we do all year round) and it just builds up over time. He's been treating me by directly working on the joint similar to the knee fix in Supple Leopard where you work the back of the knee with a ball with the knee in a flexed position, pull your foot towards you and rotate your feet. Seems to be helping. Taping, ice, heat, voltaren doesn't really do anything, just have to loosen and free the joint. There's nothing structurally broken, so you can probably just keep training normally but I've been holding off on heavy loading stuff (squats and depth jumps) the last week to see if it improves.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2121 on: October 16, 2013, 11:30:47 pm »
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right on. i'm gonna try the ball thing again, thanks for the tip.

WEIGHT: 173.5
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: right lateral knee doesn't hurt but i noticed it a little during squats
MENTAL STATE: tired

- warm up

- submax SLRVJ and a couple of DSVJ
just some dudes shooting around on the court so i joined and did some layups and a few short-approach rim jumps. the rim is lower than 10' for sure, i could make it touch it off two feet without a huge effort.

- squat 315 x 1; 295 x 1,1
holy shit this felt heavy. 315 was near max tonight. fuck.

- OHP 75 x 5; 85 x 5; 95 x 9
lol. weak.

- pull up x 5,5,9

- decline sit up @18lb bar x 10
t0ddday showed me this exercise. get on the decline bench, get someone to hand you the bar, put it behind your neck (HBBS position) and do full-ROM sit ups.

- jump approach progression
another t0ddday-based thing. start with SVJ, then do a (true) DSVJ, then a one-step DLRVJ, etc. until the added step doesn't help anymore. stopped myself at one-step and kept intensity low. tomorrow morning will be first pre-work jumping session.

- stretch

sucking on the squats i'm sure is just a function of not having squatted in more than a week and only three times in the past three weeks (!!!!!). being sick blows. otherwise, good workout. should measure the rims.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2122 on: October 17, 2013, 04:45:57 pm »
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this morning:

- jog to gym

- warm up
dribbling practice

- SVJ-to-RVJ progression x 20 mins
went out to 2-step, very low. legs felt a bit heavy and was awkward.

- stretch

- jog home

very pleased with myself for actually sucking it up and getting myself to the gym before 7. this was 45 minutes door-to-door. i'm going to be tired tonight but this will be sustainable if i do better about bedtime. more practice, more practice, more practice. will do some kind of track work tonight unless it rains.

tonight:

WEIGHT: 173.5
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: right lateral knee doesn't hurt but i noticed it a little; left pinky, top knuckle (???)
MENTAL STATE: okay

- warm up

lights cut out  :pissed:

no idea why they did that, lights are usually on until 10:30 on weekdays. anyway in the dark i attempted some bounds and strides and my legs were like, uh-uh, no no no, go home. so i went home. recovery fail. extra stretching tonight. no earthly idea what happened to my pinky finger.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2013, 09:18:35 pm by LBSS »
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2123 on: October 19, 2013, 01:29:54 pm »
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WEIGHT: ???
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: left calf, left glute; no knee pain, though!  :)
MENTAL STATE: okay, early afternoon is sub-optimal training time. legs felt heavy

- warm up

- 1-2 jumps x some

- sprint 55m x 5
7.8, 7.8, 7.7, 7.7, 7.8 -- this was awful, very slow and felt it. i'm straining too hard somehow. on the plus side, no knee pain whatsoever during set up. there was a bit of a headwind but still.

- SL bound x 20m/12, whichever comes first
L better than R because i can keep the cycle going the whole time, R i lean forward too much toward the end and lose the cycle. but fewer steps/greater distance for R.

- tempo 150m x 1
calf and glute were like, uh, no, that's enough. no point in inviting cramps.

- stretch

for the 55m in january i think i can shoot for 7.2. t0ddday definitely motivated me to focus on speed and jumping rather than gym stuff, he's right that i'm probably strong enough to dunk right now and my deficiencies are in speed, power and movement efficiency. especially movement efficiency.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2124 on: October 19, 2013, 10:18:19 pm »
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Good news about the knee. Did that exercise I suggested seem to help?

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2125 on: October 24, 2013, 10:16:39 pm »
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MASH'ALLAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!

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Good news about the knee. Did that exercise I suggested seem to help?

i guess, hard to say.

10/21

MORNING:

- warm up

- SVJ x 3

- DLRVJ (approach out to 2- and 3-step) x a bunch
best 1.5-2 knuckles over. better than last time.

- stretch

EVENING:

- warm up
so tired.

- broad jump x 4
~12 yards

- DL bound x 4,4,4
same or worse as broad jumps, bad

- SL bound x 12,12,12

- sprint 30m x 4
4.4, 4.6, 4.5, 4.4 -- not terrible for me actually. felt fast.

- stretch

slept very badly last night as i think i was anxious about getting up on time to jump. sucks to be tired during the day but that’s a good sign in the long run.

10/22

WEIGHT: 173.5

- warm up

- squat 315 x 1,1,2,1
later reps easier, squat weakness is clearly (mostly) neural.

- superset x 2
-- OHP 115 x 5,5
-- pull up x 8,8

- superset x 2
-- assisted natural GHR x 5
-- cable tricep pressdown 120 x 10
-- DB curl 30 x 5; 22.5 x 10
-- DB shrug 95 x 8; 80 x 8
i am weak at shrugs.

- stretch

- decline sit up 15 x 10; 25 x 10

10/24 (today)

wussed out on morning workout. work has been bad the past few days, 11-13 hours with some early morning shit. tonight it was cold enough that i could see my breath.

WEIGHT: ???
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: right hip flexor has been doing some wonky shit off and on
MENTAL STATE: tired

- warm up

- broad jump x 4
bad, more than a foot shorter than low-normal day.

- DL bound x 4,4,4
bad but better than the broad jumps

- SL bound 20y x 2
L:12.5,12.5; R:11.5,12.5

- sprint 30m x 2; 60m x 3
4.5,4.5; 8.4,8.2,8.4 - right calf twingey at end of last 60m

- stretch

mediocre workout, not least i think because it's cold out.

praise the lord.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2126 on: October 25, 2013, 07:46:52 am »
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WEIGHT: ???
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: neck normal morning stiffness, left hip in certain ROM
MENTAL STATE: okay, i definitely have a cold

- warm up

- SVJ x 3

- one-step RVJ x ~8

- two-step RVJ x ~10

- cool down

garbage. just garbage. did not go out to three-step because two-step was maybe 0.5" higher than one-step. barely a full knuckle over.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2127 on: October 25, 2013, 01:10:04 pm »
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The more I look at this log the more I think that LBSS would be the best served doing longer distance sprints (200-400m). It's maybe the one thing he has never done consistently.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2128 on: October 25, 2013, 08:05:59 pm »
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The more I look at this log the more I think that LBSS would be the best served doing longer distance sprints (200-400m). It's maybe the one thing he has never done consistently.

I agree that everyone should... but I don't know why you think that would help his vertical that much.  If he did a proper training in that range he would get in better shape and be a little leaner and thus jump a little higher... but aside from that I wouldn't expect that much carryover from something that is really prep work for most everyone but a 400m runner.  A base is good though.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2129 on: October 26, 2013, 09:18:09 am »
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Because it teaches what he's not accustomed to: being explosively isometric. Everything that depicts this ability is bad for him: sprinting, one leg jumping, bounding etc.

He's good at generating strength, mediocre at expressing power and bad at managing isometric explosiveness (where you just lock out your muscles very quickly and create a stiff lever).

I couldn't agree more with Joel here:

http://www.just-fly-sports.com/long-sprinting-for-reactive-vertical-power-part-i/
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps