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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2070 on: September 26, 2013, 11:37:33 am »
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Maybe you could do smolov or something for squatting. It'd be great to get a higher squat but if you put on weight you're going to negate the advantages of having a higher squat- as far as for sprinting.

Edit- It'll be sweet seeing a vid of you guys training together. I wish I could train with people from here.

i'm not talking about racing up to see how fast i can catch KF at 210. i'm talking about a conscientious bulk where i actually focus on diet and muscle/strength gain as a goal. i feel like if i gained 10 pounds while doing something like smolov, i'd be squatting four plates in no time. 405/185 is a better ratio than 360/175. this is not an immediate plan, just something i've been ruminating on. it's actually holding me back from switching gyms, because as unused as the squat rack seems to be at the JCC, smolov or some other squat-centric routine is a dick move when there's only one rack. 10x3 takes a long time. OTOH, basketball court.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2071 on: September 26, 2013, 03:24:51 pm »
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You have been saying indeed for a long time, do it. You haven't tried it anyway, except that small period that steven-miller got everyone in here into SS-bulk mentality.
But really, 175/11% is a great starting point for a slow clean bulk, i am sure you would benefit athletically too, slowly going to an athletic mid-high 180s frame.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2072 on: September 26, 2013, 08:21:54 pm »
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don't sass me, vag.

WEIGHT: ???
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: right hamstring and hip, but went away with warm up
MENTAL STATE: good but a little stressed

- warm up

- SL bound x 10,10,10

- sprint 55? x 5
7.2, 7.2, 7.5 (stupid bitch walked RIGHT across the lane as i was sprinting, momentarily slowed and yelled, this time doesn't count), 7.3, 7.3

- tempo 200m x 3

normal track had a game going on so it was closed. secondary track is marked "55" on the side but i don't know if that's 55m or 55 yards. i kind of hope it's meters because these sprints felt fast-ish, i was getting a little float, and extrapolating the times using USTFCCCA conversion tables that's 7.7-7.9 range, which would be better than usual. if it's yards, FML. the 200s for tempo were ~35s. ran out of time because i had to come home and interview yet another person to move into my place.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2073 on: September 27, 2013, 01:34:36 am »
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Maybe you could do smolov or something for squatting. It'd be great to get a higher squat but if you put on weight you're going to negate the advantages of having a higher squat- as far as for sprinting.

Edit- It'll be sweet seeing a vid of you guys training together. I wish I could train with people from here.

i'm not talking about racing up to see how fast i can catch KF at 210. i'm talking about a conscientious bulk where i actually focus on diet and muscle/strength gain as a goal. i feel like if i gained 10 pounds while doing something like smolov, i'd be squatting four plates in no time. 405/185 is a better ratio than 360/175. this is not an immediate plan, just something i've been ruminating on. it's actually holding me back from switching gyms, because as unused as the squat rack seems to be at the JCC, smolov or some other squat-centric routine is a dick move when there's only one rack. 10x3 takes a long time. OTOH, basketball court.

Yeah in that case there's no harm in just going for it.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2074 on: September 27, 2013, 02:30:50 pm »
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbFGdpQD_O0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

That's Blenderate. Tigerak is some tiny asian powerlifter who is pretty strong and friends with Yang.

btw i just watched that vid. had seen it before, the gym is in rockville, near where my gf's parents live. too far to work out at regularly. the woman who co-owns it is a BEAST, world record holder in the squat for her weight class.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2075 on: September 29, 2013, 10:48:11 pm »
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WEIGHT: 176
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: left mid back
MENTAL STATE: fine

- warm up

- SVJ x 5

- depth jump @12" x 3,3

- squat 350 x 1; 360 x F

- superset x 3
-- dip x 10
-- ab wheel roll out standing x 10,10; kneeling x 10
-- pull up x 7

- stretch

wack, abbreviated. some vids coming. this was to try out the new place and it's different. the bball court was in use so i could not use it.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2076 on: September 29, 2013, 11:45:50 pm »
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from yesterday:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdykX2BPIEc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdykX2BPIEc</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqDR5sfbuJk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqDR5sfbuJk</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkGlV2kB4MA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkGlV2kB4MA</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kicH5wPDlY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kicH5wPDlY</a>
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2077 on: September 30, 2013, 04:06:33 am »
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Have you tried in the SVJ to get your arms back, not just "under" you? And if you get your arms back, try turning the thumbs towards the sky (internally rotate). Then try the SVJ again and see how it feels.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2078 on: September 30, 2013, 09:07:02 am »
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Have you tried in the SVJ to get your arms back, not just "under" you? And if you get your arms back, try turning the thumbs towards the sky (internally rotate). Then try the SVJ again and see how it feels.

Agree with this.... Especially when you consider you are a low-bar squatter... You have a strong back and don't seem to be using it as much as you can on your jump.  You bend super low and roll onto your toes.... Not to get into low-bar/high-bar squatting.... But your SVJ is pretty similar to KF style... which will benefit more from HB squat, get those hamstrings, low back and glutes active rather than just jumping with your quads.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2079 on: September 30, 2013, 09:43:16 am »
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Have you tried in the SVJ to get your arms back, not just "under" you? And if you get your arms back, try turning the thumbs towards the sky (internally rotate). Then try the SVJ again and see how it feels.

hm, interesting, will try and see how that goes.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2080 on: September 30, 2013, 09:44:56 am »
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Have you tried in the SVJ to get your arms back, not just "under" you? And if you get your arms back, try turning the thumbs towards the sky (internally rotate). Then try the SVJ again and see how it feels.

Agree with this.... Especially when you consider you are a low-bar squatter... You have a strong back and don't seem to be using it as much as you can on your jump.  You bend super low and roll onto your toes.... Not to get into low-bar/high-bar squatting.... But your SVJ is pretty similar to KF style... which will benefit more from HB squat, get those hamstrings, low back and glutes active rather than just jumping with your quads.

old SVJ is much more hip/back dominated, much higher descent. not sure what brought about the change but i generally seem to get higher with the lower descent/more quad involvement. not gonna change my squatting style. i'm just not.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2081 on: September 30, 2013, 09:46:55 am »
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man, on re-watching that 350 looked pretty solid. cool.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2082 on: September 30, 2013, 10:36:33 am »
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man, on re-watching that 350 looked pretty solid. cool.

I think you could have got 360 if you were more used to grinding out heavy weights

Your squat looks more quad focussed than most low-bar squats. Your knees travel more forward than out and you don't squat morning that much.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2083 on: September 30, 2013, 10:38:23 am »
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yea, his squat is athletic, i've siad much the same to LBBS. I look down on LBBS but LBSS squat is nice as, probably my favorite on this site. If I were him, i'd keep it as it is and build my FS up as an assistance, no need to mess with a good thing. highbar is cool and all, but if your BS is athletic, just adding FS will get you whatever you're missing.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2084 on: September 30, 2013, 10:40:34 am »
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The eccentric on the 360 was very slow... I think that took a lot out of him... that was the first thing that made me think "he's not going to make it". Granted, I already saw the video title but still.
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All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps