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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #270 on: May 26, 2010, 11:17:29 pm »
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Thanks for the thoughts. The problem with working out after games is that they're at night and not always conveniently located.

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It's definitely a thought, though. I'm a bit wary of not getting enough rest, too, although the knee has mostly felt very strong and did today. On thinking about it a bit more later today, I think another thing I'll do is just cut the lifting volume even more. So 2x3, 1x5, that kind of thing for squats, going heavy but not pushing super hard. Pretty much give up on big strength gains. All the volume on high-intensity days will be in sprints and jumps, and even that will be relatively low. I could do something like this, though, now that I think about it:

Sunday lower body: jumps + jump squats/heavy squats/light unilaterals + light conditioning (e.g. jump rope)
Monday upper body: bench/press/rows/pull-ups + core + light conditioning (e.g. jump rope)
Tuesday game
Wednesday rest
Thursday sprints + jumps + game
Friday rest
Saturday practice

Might have to involve me dipping out of work a little bit early on Thursdays but I think that can be arranged. Adds an extra rest day there.

ya at least 2 rest days, that's better, i like it, only thing that sucks it's not 2x/week lower body lifting anymore, at least it's replaced by sprints/jumps though.

cool man, I like it better now.

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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #271 on: May 27, 2010, 09:19:29 am »
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adarq, I was looking at the plants thread again and noticed your comment about having the best plants when you were mixing in more plyo type work. What would you recommend throwing in in my case? For jumps I've really just been doing the low-box ankle hops and DLRVJ. Low depth jumps? DJ-to-box-jumps? Bounds of some kind?
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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #272 on: May 27, 2010, 09:04:56 pm »
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It was hot and humid today. Like July or August. Blech.

jog 30mins @ easy pace, HR ~148-152
stretch

Hips felt super tight at the beginning, took a while to get loose.
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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #273 on: May 27, 2010, 10:56:51 pm »
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adarq, I was looking at the plants thread again and noticed your comment about having the best plants when you were mixing in more plyo type work. What would you recommend throwing in in my case? For jumps I've really just been doing the low-box ankle hops and DLRVJ. Low depth jumps? DJ-to-box-jumps? Bounds of some kind?

well, for you, I would progress slowly on REA squats, that's one of my favorite exercises for vert/power etc.. can't go all out for a while on it, just have to make sure your knee is fine etc, so i'd start off at like 25-30% 1RM for 4x3-5.

low box dj's, 18", I don't even see the need to go above 18 right now, so i'd stick with that height for 3x5 and 2x10.

jump squats, at about 25% originally, working up to 35% over a period of weeks/months.. again, 4x3-5.


so say you're doing:

Sunday:
- DJ @ 2x10
- REA @ 4x3

Thursday:
- DJ @ 3x5
- JUMP SQUAT @ 4x3

something like that..


other than that, just staying consistent, avoiding injury, improving fitness, general strength work, and jumping/general movement (ultimate) will be fine... biggest key is avoiding injury and improving "fitness", you seem to get thrown off with some of these issues that arise, which I completely understand, I had plenty of setbacks (injuries) in my 2 year vert training.

I attribute most of that "reactiveness" to the REA's/dj's/jump squats I was doing during that period, for that vid you saw.. I was REALLY focusing on those 3 exercises, bigtime.. I remember everyone going "damn your plants look way different than previous videos of recent", and it really did.. I was transitioning very well from ecc to con, and my ankles felt so strong.

One other exercise I was doing then, which I don't really recommend, it's more of an experiment, is barbell stiff leg ankle hops for high volume. For example, I was doing 50-100 reps just bouncing nice and easy stiff legged, reflexive pop, seemed to be helping with the ankles for sure but it definitely was bugging my shoulders/back a little.



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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #274 on: May 28, 2010, 11:35:52 am »
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Word. So comparatively low-volume DLRVJs (three or four step approach), just to practice the movement, plus DJs and then REA squats and jump squats, alternating. See how it works for a couple of months and then adjust from there. Schedule will change once summer league ends, anyway.

Sunday would roughly be:

Warm up
mobility/calisthenics
sprints x 200-250 total yards
DLRVJ x 15-30 total reps (alternate with sprints; if they feel good, do more, if they feel sluggish, do fewer)
walk to gym
DJ ~2x10
REA squat ~4x3
squat (heavy) 5-6 total reps
BSS/step up (light) 20-25 total reps
jump rope x10-15 mins (start simple and add complexity as I get less shitty at it)
stretch

Monday would roughly be:

warm up
mobility
shoulder prehab
bench 3x5 OR press 3x5
rows 3x5-8 OR weighted pullups 3x5
jump rope x15-20 mins
stretch

If the Thursday game is at 7, the workout would roughly be:

warm up
sprints x100-200 total yards
DLRVJ x10-15 total reps
DJ 3x5
rest
game
stretch

If the Thursday game is at 8:30, I can usually make it to the gym beforehand, so the workout would roughly be:

warm up
DLRVJ x15-30 total reps
DJ 3x5
jump squat ~4x3
light stretch
rest/travel to game/eat something
game
stretch

Tuesday's still just the game. Wednesday and Friday are still full rest or really light cardio days (like a long walk or easy jog), with one being a real full rest. We may end up doing team runs on Wednesdays. Saturday is still just practice. Of course, life gets in the way but, given my tendency to jump all over the place, the most important thing is to try to be as consistent as possible and just stick with the plan. In case you couldn't tell I like making plans, I just have a hard time sticking to them sometimes. I wonder how it was just my brother and not me that got diagnosed with ADD when we were little  ;)

Also, just found out that all our games this summer will be on turf fields. High five!
« Last Edit: May 28, 2010, 11:37:24 am by LBSS »
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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #275 on: May 28, 2010, 02:16:05 pm »
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Word. So comparatively low-volume DLRVJs (three or four step approach), just to practice the movement, plus DJs and then REA squats and jump squats, alternating. See how it works for a couple of months and then adjust from there. Schedule will change once summer league ends, anyway.

Sunday would roughly be:

Warm up
mobility/calisthenics
sprints x 200-250 total yards
DLRVJ x 15-30 total reps (alternate with sprints; if they feel good, do more, if they feel sluggish, do fewer)
walk to gym
DJ ~2x10
REA squat ~4x3
squat (heavy) 5-6 total reps
BSS/step up (light) 20-25 total reps
jump rope x10-15 mins (start simple and add complexity as I get less shitty at it)
stretch

Monday would roughly be:

warm up
mobility
shoulder prehab
bench 3x5 OR press 3x5
rows 3x5-8 OR weighted pullups 3x5
jump rope x15-20 mins
stretch

If the Thursday game is at 7, the workout would roughly be:

warm up
sprints x100-200 total yards
DLRVJ x10-15 total reps
DJ 3x5
rest
game
stretch

If the Thursday game is at 8:30, I can usually make it to the gym beforehand, so the workout would roughly be:

warm up
DLRVJ x15-30 total reps
DJ 3x5
jump squat ~4x3
light stretch
rest/travel to game/eat something
game
stretch

Tuesday's still just the game. Wednesday and Friday are still full rest or really light cardio days (like a long walk or easy jog), with one being a real full rest. We may end up doing team runs on Wednesdays. Saturday is still just practice. Of course, life gets in the way but, given my tendency to jump all over the place, the most important thing is to try to be as consistent as possible and just stick with the plan. In case you couldn't tell I like making plans, I just have a hard time sticking to them sometimes. I wonder how it was just my brother and not me that got diagnosed with ADD when we were little  ;)

Also, just found out that all our games this summer will be on turf fields. High five!

nice!



"In case you couldn't tell I like making plans, I just have a hard time sticking to them sometimes. I wonder how it was just my brother and not me that got diagnosed with ADD when we were little  ;)"

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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #276 on: May 30, 2010, 01:13:52 pm »
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Yesterday kept it really low volume. Still trying to get back in shape and considering that I've definitely made a couple of stupid pushing-the-weight-too-fast mistakes in the past, taking it slow now seems like a good idea.

Warm up

sprints x5x10m superset x2 with
DLRVJ x5
depth jump x10
squat x5x255
BSS x10x80
JR 30/30 x5mins

stretch
foam roll x10mins
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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #277 on: May 31, 2010, 05:20:42 pm »
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Took it niiiice and easy again today, then went to the pool :)

warm up
mobility
shoulder prehab

bench x5x155
BOR x8x135
JR 30/30 x6

stretch
foam roll
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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #278 on: June 01, 2010, 09:28:18 pm »
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Hot as shit again today. Plus a long day at work. Still, energy was great and it took them cutting the lights at the field where I do tempo runs for me to stop. Coincidentally, the timing was awesome and they cut the lights just at the end of what I'd planned to do (like 20 seconds after I finished).

warm up
jog x.5mi
butt kickers, high knees, shuffles, carioca

work
2x5x100m @16-18s pace -- felt awesome, nice and easy

cool down

jog x.5mi
strech
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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #279 on: June 01, 2010, 09:47:17 pm »
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Hot as shit again today. Plus a long day at work. Still, energy was great and it took them cutting the lights at the field where I do tempo runs for me to stop. Coincidentally, the timing was awesome and they cut the lights just at the end of what I'd planned to do (like 20 seconds after I finished).

warm up
jog x.5mi
butt kickers, high knees, shuffles, carioca

work
2x5x100m @16-18s pace -- felt awesome, nice and easy

cool down

jog x.5mi
strech

what time does the park close? most parks around here close at 10pm.

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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #280 on: June 01, 2010, 11:31:41 pm »
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It's a high school athletic field, so they only keep the lights on as long as someone or other has it booked (and pays for it). Tuesday nights (and Thursdays, I think) it's a local rugby club team that finishes practice around 8. Other nights there are adult-league soccer games and the lights are on longer.

EDIT: It's super convenient and really nice (turf), so I'm not in a hurry to find someplace else to do the tempos. If I'm ever out of work too late to run there, I can just do an easy fartlek or something.
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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #281 on: June 02, 2010, 09:08:03 pm »
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Slowly starting to pick things up. Soleuses (solei?) were a bit sore from yesterday.

warm up

work
low box ankle hops 2x10
two-step VJ x16, varying amounts of rest 10-60s
depth jump 2x5
jump squat 2x3x95
squat 5x265 -- sucked, will stick at this weight next time around to get form back in line. It wasn't even that heavy my form was just awful

cool down
stretch
foam roll
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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #282 on: June 07, 2010, 12:28:59 am »
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Just got back from my brother's college graduation. He went to art school. Some craaaaazy kids up there. Instead of cap and gown, some guy my brother knows dressed up as a lucha libre wrestler. FUll on, serious costume, nothing half-assed about it. During the point when all the kids were getting their diplomas, instead of shaking the president's hand as he walked across the stage, this guy tackled him. Literally took the president down in front of hundreds of people.

Didn't really exercise much, ate some awesome food, drank a lot. Good weekend.
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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #283 on: June 07, 2010, 02:17:44 am »
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Just got back from my brother's college graduation. He went to art school. Some craaaaazy kids up there. Instead of cap and gown, some guy my brother knows dressed up as a lucha libre wrestler. FUll on, serious costume, nothing half-assed about it. During the point when all the kids were getting their diplomas, instead of shaking the president's hand as he walked across the stage, this guy tackled him. Literally took the president down in front of hundreds of people.

what the fuck? that could should have been tarred and feathered.

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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #284 on: June 07, 2010, 10:12:41 am »
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what the fuck? that could should have been tarred and feathered.
Nah, it was awesome. The president is a giant douche bag and it's not like he got hurt. A+ for the lucha libre guy.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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