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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #885 on: February 23, 2011, 09:10:14 pm »
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What exactly did you do for a warmup? It might be that you didn't get adequate motion or flexibility going in your hips. Used to happen to me once in a while too on similar lifts when I didn't warmup properly.

I warm up pretty well although I'm obviously starting to do more for my hips. I think it's partially just the long, long term imbalance between right and left. PT also told me to try doing like one extra rep for left leg on unilateral stuff, and to stretch/roll it a little more. Seems reasonable.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #886 on: February 24, 2011, 01:11:36 am »
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congrats on the tied PR man! you seeing patrick lally?

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #887 on: February 24, 2011, 05:11:40 am »
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- jumps : 2 step & vert 
:personal-record: tied @32" after one of the gym owners told me I should be getting more knee flexion on the plant. Jumped high, tweaked hip.



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Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #888 on: February 24, 2011, 09:22:04 am »
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congrats on the tied PR man! you seeing patrick lally?

Nah, my oly lifting coach (if I can call him that at this point...) also does PT. And he doesn't charge for answering questions. BTW I will most likely be in the gym on the 3rd and 6th. The 3rd I might actually have to be at work very late, but hoping not. Thursdays I'm typically in the gym by 6:45 or 7 and Sundays it varies, although I prefer to go mid-late afternoon, when basically no one else is there. Anyway, just PM me if you're gonna come down and we can coordinate.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #889 on: February 24, 2011, 09:23:23 am »
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- jumps : 2 step & vert  
:personal-record: tied @32" after one of the gym owners told me I should be getting more knee flexion on the plant. Jumped high, tweaked hip.



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Thanks vag! I felt like all of a sudden I could do a lot more, the earlier jumps had been okay but that one was like a full inch higher and not even more pumped up or anything, just, "Flex knees, get lower." If I can get this hip thing figured out I might actually be able to jump higher next time!
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #890 on: February 24, 2011, 08:45:15 pm »
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BW = i keep forgetting to measure
SORENESS = none
ACHES/INJURIES = hip tweak has radiated around deep into my ass muscles...yeah...sit with that image
FATIGUE = low-moderate
DIET = not enough veggies, otherwise solid

session 2 : power

- warmup

- sprint warmup

- sprints : 10-20 yards - to fire up

- jumps : 2 step & vert 
:personal-record: tied @32" after one of the gym owners told me I should be getting more knee flexion on the plant. Jumped high, tweaked hip.

- MR DL BOUND (vertical emphasis): 4 x 10-20 MAX EFFORT, ridiculously powerful armswing

- Pogos: 4 x 5 MAX EFFORT

forgot, i'm so retarded i'm not even sure where my nose is

- REA squat : 4 x 3 (40%)
125,125,125 == hip tweak bad

- MSEM squat: 2 x 4 (~90%)
285,285,285,285 == weight flew, hip tweak rotating deep into piriformis etc. but not as bad on sets 2 and 4

- BSS : 3 x 3
150,150,150

- core
circuit x3
--MB OH throw x20
--KTE x5

- stretch
and roll

My coach/PT told me basically to just chill for a few days, roll all the way around the hip, avoid stretching, and do ice massage. So that's what I'll do. No sense letting this turn chronic.

VERY pleased about the jump, even if the rest of the workout had sucked (and it didn't, pain or not it was good) I'd be happy.

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congrats on the jumping & good thing the squat was flying up.. really sucks about that damn hip shit though.. that's why i ended up squatting above parallel, chronic hip issue.. i was actually squatting below parallel 2+ years ago believe it or not.. hip issue made me go above, then i got even more vert gains when i switched to half squat.


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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #891 on: February 24, 2011, 10:20:01 pm »
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Congrats on tying pr. That is exactly what happened to me, vert was low, started this phase, tied pr's pretty quick then passed them up.

For the sprints I kept them to 10 yards and only did a few. Like 2 submax then 2-4 100%. For the bounding I would go until I was tired each set, so a few of them were with fatigue. Usually got 12-14 each set. Really powerful arm swing and pushing off the ground as hard as I could.


My vert would usually go down a little bit each session and then a few days after session 3 msem it would supercompensate and that's when I set most of my pr's.

You are definitely gonna pr soon. 32 is gonna be old news soon!
Stats as of October 15, 2010
age: 20
weight: ~153 lbs
height: 5'7", 5'8" with shoes
reach: 7'5.5" in shoes
svj: 30 (vertec)
rvj: 35 (vertec) ~36 (dunk)
full squat 1rm: 315 (msem) ~325 (estimate)

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #892 on: February 24, 2011, 11:31:25 pm »
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- jumps : 2 step & vert 
:personal-record: tied @32" after one of the gym owners told me I should be getting more knee flexion on the plant. Jumped high, tweaked hip.



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Solid PR breh  :headbang:

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #893 on: February 24, 2011, 11:44:23 pm »
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- jumps : 2 step & vert 
 tied @32" after one of the gym owners told me I should be getting more knee flexion on the plant. Jumped high, tweaked hip.

Great! I feel it's really a matter of body structure and individual preference, some people would fuck up their jumps by flexing more, if it worked better for you, then you know where your at!

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congrats on the jumping & good thing the squat was flying up.. really sucks about that damn hip shit though.. that's why i ended up squatting above parallel, chronic hip issue.. i was actually squatting below parallel 2+ years ago believe it or not.. hip issue made me go above, then i got even more vert gains when i switched to half squat.

@Darqui, everybody: I'm unsure about that, but i bet that if you get sore in the hamstrings and glutes, it's probably a sign that going deeper is not ne cessary and that a half squat is enough? Right?
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #894 on: February 25, 2011, 09:35:39 am »
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Thanks brosephines.

@Divad: soreness is no reason at all to change depth, IMO.

Andrew disagrees with me on this, but I think you should squat to the fullest extent allowed by your structure and mobility. If you're really tall or have shitty hip mobility, you shouldn't be going deep. But if you're normal sized then increasing ROM can only help over time.
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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #895 on: February 25, 2011, 09:37:22 am »
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Congrats on tying pr. That is exactly what happened to me, vert was low, started this phase, tied pr's pretty quick then passed them up.

For the sprints I kept them to 10 yards and only did a few. Like 2 submax then 2-4 100%. For the bounding I would go until I was tired each set, so a few of them were with fatigue. Usually got 12-14 each set. Really powerful arm swing and pushing off the ground as hard as I could.


My vert would usually go down a little bit each session and then a few days after session 3 msem it would supercompensate and that's when I set most of my pr's.

You are definitely gonna pr soon. 32 is gonna be old news soon!

Thanks man. What rest did you take between sets and movements? E.g. during bounds?
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #896 on: February 25, 2011, 09:46:54 am »
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last night:

Rolled entire hips with a partially deflated soccer ball, taking my time (maybe 30 minutes). Started from hamstring and worked around the inside until spiraled into the glute. Then rolled hamstrings, ITB, adductors, quads, calves, soleus, QL, upper back, scaps and traps. Did some posterior rocking and light stretching.

this morning:

Just rolled the hips, posterior rocking and light stretching.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #897 on: February 25, 2011, 02:24:19 pm »
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Congrats on tying pr. That is exactly what happened to me, vert was low, started this phase, tied pr's pretty quick then passed them up.

For the sprints I kept them to 10 yards and only did a few. Like 2 submax then 2-4 100%. For the bounding I would go until I was tired each set, so a few of them were with fatigue. Usually got 12-14 each set. Really powerful arm swing and pushing off the ground as hard as I could.


My vert would usually go down a little bit each session and then a few days after session 3 msem it would supercompensate and that's when I set most of my pr's.

You are definitely gonna pr soon. 32 is gonna be old news soon!

Thanks man. What rest did you take between sets and movements? E.g. during bounds?


I take a lot of rest time in between sets when I workout so my sessions are usually pretty long. But I like to be well recovered so I can give each set 100%. 2 mins minimum for everything, longer for squatting, more like 4-6mins.
Stats as of October 15, 2010
age: 20
weight: ~153 lbs
height: 5'7", 5'8" with shoes
reach: 7'5.5" in shoes
svj: 30 (vertec)
rvj: 35 (vertec) ~36 (dunk)
full squat 1rm: 315 (msem) ~325 (estimate)

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #898 on: February 27, 2011, 11:34:56 pm »
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yesterday:

One brief rolling session, just hips

today, morning:

brief rolling session, just left (affected) hip

today, evening:

long rolling session, hips + ITB, adductors, hamstrings, quads, calves, peroneals, QL, upper back, lats, feet
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #899 on: February 28, 2011, 04:17:57 am »
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- jumps : 2 step & vert 
 tied @32" after one of the gym owners told me I should be getting more knee flexion on the plant. Jumped high, tweaked hip.

Great! I feel it's really a matter of body structure and individual preference, some people would fuck up their jumps by flexing more, if it worked better for you, then you know where your at!

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congrats on the jumping & good thing the squat was flying up.. really sucks about that damn hip shit though.. that's why i ended up squatting above parallel, chronic hip issue.. i was actually squatting below parallel 2+ years ago believe it or not.. hip issue made me go above, then i got even more vert gains when i switched to half squat.

@Darqui, everybody: I'm unsure about that, but i bet that if you get sore in the hamstrings and glutes, it's probably a sign that going deeper is not ne cessary and that a half squat is enough? Right?


well soreness shouldn't be the indicator.. half squat being enough is mostly based around build, leg to torso ratio.. bottom line, if you're long and lanky, and have problems hitting deep depth without heels elevated + tons of mobility/flexibility work, half squat can be very effective.

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