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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #750 on: December 18, 2010, 11:55:52 am »
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The article is just as paleotarded as can be. Paleo is a branch of broscience. There you have it.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #751 on: December 18, 2010, 12:15:56 pm »
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However, the best study is the one you do on YOURSELF. Change a variable, monitor the result and then decide how it worked for YOU, because in the end, you are the only research result that matters.

That's probably the only part I can agree with 100%.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #752 on: December 18, 2010, 12:32:08 pm »
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The article is just as paleotarded as can be. Paleo is a branch of broscience. There you have it.

So you are talking about the "grains article"... I don't think Paleo is pure broscience! Sure there are some people that overexaggerate  it, but we know that grains aren't the best thing for us to eat, even Alan Aragon says that these are empty calories in the audio interview with Mike Robertson.

http://www.direct-ms.org/pdf/EvolutionPaleolithic/Cereal%20Sword.pdf
It's been long since i read this, but there should be a section about bioavailability of "all those good nutrients" in grains.

What do you think about Kecks answer to my question?

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #753 on: December 18, 2010, 01:56:04 pm »
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I'm with Zetz. The only good thing I can say about any of that is that you should find out what works for YOU. "Paleo" is a bullshit term with no meaning other than ridiculously fluid and arbitrary limitations. The article you sent, just like pretty much all "paleo" literature, is based on pure speculation and talking around the point.

Do "we" really know that grains aren't good to eat? Some of the only studies actually done on varying levels of grain consumption have shown a positive correlation between increased whole grain intake and improved cardiovascular indicators. Recent archaeological evidence (ignored by Cordain, or else he's unaware of it) has indicated that humans may have been eating grain for more than 100,000 years. And as Cordain allows, the concentrated and systematic cultivation of grain is what enabled the rise of civilization and eventually the computers and internet you and I are using to interact. Without grain-based agriculture, we would still be hunter-gatherers. We can debate whether that's a good thing or not on balance, but we should probably first strip to our leather underpants and return to the African savannah from whence we came. Furthermore, there is evidence that the advent of agriculture actually caused an acceleration in human evolution. People who live in areas with historically greater grain consumption show greater numbers of alleles adapted to help us process grain. The idea that we're genetically the same as our distant ancestors is wrong.

Cordain talks about everything in black and white: Either you are EATING ALL GRAINS ALL THE TIME AND SHUTTING OFF HEALTHY FOODS or you are PALEO AND VIRTUOUS IN LINE WITH OUR EVOLUTIONARY HISTORY AS DEFINED BY LOREN CORDAIN. Garbage. It's entirely possible to include whole grains as part of a perfectly healthy, balanced diet. Same goes for the satanic HFCS. If all you eat is bread, then yeah, you're in trouble. But that would either indicate stupidity on your part or an utter lack of options. For example, see the plight of starving people in India or sub-Saharan Africa.

If you have Celiac disease, then by all means, stay away from gluten. If you do well on a low-carb diet, by all means, stick with it. But I'll stick with my toast, pasta, and occasional cookie or milk shake, thank you very much. I also eat lean meat, fatty meat, greens, fruit, dairy, eggs, nuts, etc.

If you want Aragon's fully-realized take on "paleo," I'm happy to send you the issue of AARR from a year ago in which the feature article is "An Objective Look at the Paleo Diet." PM me your email address if you're interested.
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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #754 on: December 18, 2010, 02:33:12 pm »
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It really has a lot to do with your own body. I can't remember who it was (I think it was my dad's uncle... or maybe his dad), but people in my ancestry, at least within their tiny communities, were known for being very strong but not particularly large. If I remember right, I've been told my body type is much like my dad's uncle Pepe's was. (Yes, Pepe.) I never knew him, but my aunt says my torso in particular is a lot like his was. Somewhat small, with narrow slanting shoulders. Yet one of the most common stories I hear about him was his ability to carry large posts over each shoulder. He would carry two at a time, patiently, while other people working with him struggled to pick up one. What did he eat? Oh right, a whole lot of grains. Beans, rice, beef and pork that was as organic as it gets, and the occasional fruit.

Even now, you can't say to everyone, "eat this because it will help you with such and such." People's genetics vary greatly and not everyone reacts to different foods equally. I will admit right now, my diet has a lot of fats and a lot of carbs in it, because I mostly eat my mom's cooking. The amount of fats and carbs in my diet (despite being fairly balanced and healthy on both sides) would probably make most Anglo-Americans fat quickly. What I've been eating is fairly similar to what my grandparents ate and it works for me, but I doubt it would work for someone in Eastern Europe.

That's why I the only part I can agree with is experimenting on yourself. I've always hated beans, and unlike the rest of my extended family, I don't eat very many tortillas, but I can almost guarantee they would only benefit me.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #755 on: December 18, 2010, 03:41:59 pm »
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I'm with Zetz. The only good thing I can say about any of that is that you should find out what works for YOU. "Paleo" is a bullshit term with no meaning other than ridiculously fluid and arbitrary limitations. The article you sent, just like pretty much all "paleo" literature, is based on pure speculation and talking around the point.

Do "we" really know that grains aren't good to eat? Some of the only studies actually done on varying levels of grain consumption have shown a positive correlation between increased whole grain intake and improved cardiovascular indicators. Recent archaeological evidence (ignored by Cordain, or else he's unaware of it) has indicated that humans may have been eating grain for more than 100,000 years. And as Cordain allows, the concentrated and systematic cultivation of grain is what enabled the rise of civilization and eventually the computers and internet you and I are using to interact. Without grain-based agriculture, we would still be hunter-gatherers. We can debate whether that's a good thing or not on balance, but we should probably first strip to our leather underpants and return to the African savannah from whence we came. Furthermore, there is evidence that the advent of agriculture actually caused an acceleration in human evolution. People who live in areas with historically greater grain consumption show greater numbers of alleles adapted to help us process grain. The idea that we're genetically the same as our distant ancestors is wrong.

Cordain talks about everything in black and white: Either you are EATING ALL GRAINS ALL THE TIME AND SHUTTING OFF HEALTHY FOODS or you are PALEO AND VIRTUOUS IN LINE WITH OUR EVOLUTIONARY HISTORY AS DEFINED BY LOREN CORDAIN. Garbage. It's entirely possible to include whole grains as part of a perfectly healthy, balanced diet. Same goes for the satanic HFCS. If all you eat is bread, then yeah, you're in trouble. But that would either indicate stupidity on your part or an utter lack of options. For example, see the plight of starving people in India or sub-Saharan Africa.

If you have Celiac disease, then by all means, stay away from gluten. If you do well on a low-carb diet, by all means, stick with it. But I'll stick with my toast, pasta, and occasional cookie or milk shake, thank you very much. I also eat lean meat, fatty meat, greens, fruit, dairy, eggs, nuts, etc.

If you want Aragon's fully-realized take on "paleo," I'm happy to send you the issue of AARR from a year ago in which the feature article is "An Objective Look at the Paleo Diet." PM me your email address if you're interested.

Thx for the clarification, and yeah, i agree that it depends from person to person!
As you might know, it's just really confusing with all that "information" out there, to distinguish between what's right and what's wrong...

You like Lyle McDonald but not John Berardi, right? How do you know that one of them is "right" and the other "wrong"?
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #756 on: December 20, 2010, 04:48:32 pm »
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Did nothing this weekend except some walking, rolling and stretching. And secksing. Hip feels fine and ready to try more squatting but I got up this morning and my god damn motherfucking right ankle hurt. Has been off and on all day, when I twist on it or step on it in certain ways. Nothing too serious but what the fuck? I can't think of anything that would cause it to spontaneously start hurting again. Plus the pain is behind the ankle bone, on the outside, rather than in front of the bone (where the sprains were focused). I repeat: What. The. Fuck.

Gonna go work out today, try to get some footage of squats and jumps and insh'allah not fuck myself up any worse. Gah.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #757 on: December 21, 2010, 06:01:33 am »
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Did nothing this weekend except some walking, rolling and stretching. And secksing. Hip feels fine and ready to try more squatting but I got up this morning and my god damn motherfucking right ankle hurt. Has been off and on all day, when I twist on it or step on it in certain ways. Nothing too serious but what the fuck? I can't think of anything that would cause it to spontaneously start hurting again. Plus the pain is behind the ankle bone, on the outside, rather than in front of the bone (where the sprains were focused). I repeat: What. The. Fuck.

Gonna go work out today, try to get some footage of squats and jumps and insh'allah not fuck myself up any worse. Gah.

the ankle will be fine, insh'allah.

maybe it's just the cold weather? ur gettin` old tho, like me, shit like that just kicks in mang.. remember, pain is just weakness leaving the body! or some lame quote like that.

lolol

secksing ftw.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #758 on: December 21, 2010, 12:20:14 pm »
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Did nothing this weekend except some walking, rolling and stretching. And secksing. Hip feels fine and ready to try more squatting but I got up this morning and my god damn motherfucking right ankle hurt. Has been off and on all day, when I twist on it or step on it in certain ways. Nothing too serious but what the fuck? I can't think of anything that would cause it to spontaneously start hurting again. Plus the pain is behind the ankle bone, on the outside, rather than in front of the bone (where the sprains were focused). I repeat: What. The. Fuck.

Gonna go work out today, try to get some footage of squats and jumps and insh'allah not fuck myself up any worse. Gah.

the ankle will be fine, insh'allah.

maybe it's just the cold weather? ur gettin` old tho, like me, shit like that just kicks in mang.. remember, pain is just weakness leaving the body! or some lame quote like that.

lolol

secksing ftw.


Yup. I get some good cardio in that way.

Ankle is feeling fine again today.

Last night, went to do a modified power workout, basically thinking to do all the jumps as prescribed but then just do 3x5 squats, super light, to mess with form and see what's what. But on the second ME RVJ hip was just protesting too much. Legs were out of the question. So I did dips and pull ups and stretched and called it a night.

On the plus side, the two jumps I had were 31 or so and the run-ups felt way better than they had.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #759 on: December 21, 2010, 09:47:58 pm »
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Did nothing this weekend except some walking, rolling and stretching. And secksing. Hip feels fine and ready to try more squatting but I got up this morning and my god damn motherfucking right ankle hurt. Has been off and on all day, when I twist on it or step on it in certain ways. Nothing too serious but what the fuck? I can't think of anything that would cause it to spontaneously start hurting again. Plus the pain is behind the ankle bone, on the outside, rather than in front of the bone (where the sprains were focused). I repeat: What. The. Fuck.

Gonna go work out today, try to get some footage of squats and jumps and insh'allah not fuck myself up any worse. Gah.

the ankle will be fine, insh'allah.

maybe it's just the cold weather? ur gettin` old tho, like me, shit like that just kicks in mang.. remember, pain is just weakness leaving the body! or some lame quote like that.

lolol

secksing ftw.


Yup. I get some good cardio in that way.

Ankle is feeling fine again today.

Last night, went to do a modified power workout, basically thinking to do all the jumps as prescribed but then just do 3x5 squats, super light, to mess with form and see what's what. But on the second ME RVJ hip was just protesting too much. Legs were out of the question. So I did dips and pull ups and stretched and called it a night.

On the plus side, the two jumps I had were 31 or so and the run-ups felt way better than they had.

good about the jumps but damn that hip shitt.... eeeehhhhhhh.. ;/

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #760 on: December 22, 2010, 12:34:35 pm »
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Vacation starts tomorrow. Gonna be in NYC, then Connecticut and upstate(ish) NY, where my mom's family is. Home on the 27th. While gone it's gonna be nonstop visiting, but I'm going to try to get some workouts in for general conditioning. E.g. Ross Enamait's deck of cards. Possibly even jumping rope if my uncle's basement ceiling is high enough. At least, gonna get some good stretching in. Hopefully by next Tuesday my hip will be back in working order and I can get back to the real business of trying to put a leather-and-rubber ball through a metal hoop ten feet off the ground.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #761 on: December 23, 2010, 06:27:33 pm »
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Vacation starts tomorrow. Gonna be in NYC, then Connecticut and upstate(ish) NY, where my mom's family is. Home on the 27th. While gone it's gonna be nonstop visiting, but I'm going to try to get some workouts in for general conditioning. E.g. Ross Enamait's deck of cards. Possibly even jumping rope if my uncle's basement ceiling is high enough. At least, gonna get some good stretching in. Hopefully by next Tuesday my hip will be back in working order and I can get back to the real business of trying to put a leather-and-rubber ball through a metal hoop ten feet off the ground.

squat your GF for reps, deadlift your GF for reps, curl your GF for reps, floor press your GF for reps.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #762 on: December 23, 2010, 11:04:19 pm »
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Vacation starts tomorrow. Gonna be in NYC, then Connecticut and upstate(ish) NY, where my mom's family is. Home on the 27th. While gone it's gonna be nonstop visiting, but I'm going to try to get some workouts in for general conditioning. E.g. Ross Enamait's deck of cards. Possibly even jumping rope if my uncle's basement ceiling is high enough. At least, gonna get some good stretching in. Hopefully by next Tuesday my hip will be back in working order and I can get back to the real business of trying to put a leather-and-rubber ball through a metal hoop ten feet off the ground.

squat your GF for reps, deadlift your GF for reps, curl your GF for reps, floor press your GF for reps.

bam


The logic in that is so far beyond brilliant that I can't even begin to describe how genius that is.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #763 on: December 24, 2010, 06:01:30 am »
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Vacation starts tomorrow. Gonna be in NYC, then Connecticut and upstate(ish) NY, where my mom's family is. Home on the 27th. While gone it's gonna be nonstop visiting, but I'm going to try to get some workouts in for general conditioning. E.g. Ross Enamait's deck of cards. Possibly even jumping rope if my uncle's basement ceiling is high enough. At least, gonna get some good stretching in. Hopefully by next Tuesday my hip will be back in working order and I can get back to the real business of trying to put a leather-and-rubber ball through a metal hoop ten feet off the ground.

squat your GF for reps, deadlift your GF for reps, curl your GF for reps, floor press your GF for reps.

bam


The logic in that is so far beyond brilliant that I can't even begin to describe how genius that is.

lol!@#!

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #764 on: December 28, 2010, 11:36:33 pm »
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What up fools. Back from vacation a day later than expected due to a snowstorm and ridiculous winds that left parts of my aunt and uncle's property with six foot drifts and other parts with exposed grass. Only got in one dedicated "workout," but plenty of long hilly walks, shoveling, and carrying, throwing and dragging my little cousins around got me plenty of exercise.

12/25
warm up

Circuit x2
--Ladder squats/push ups x10,9,8...1
--Tarzan chin ups on I-beam x5e

stretch

Various other days
walking x a bunch
shoveling x a bunch more
tossing around my cousins x even more than that, little fuckers are inexhaustible
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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