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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #5355 on: October 20, 2020, 07:13:01 am »
+1
FWIW , uphill-downhill situations are definitely deteriorating performance, unless downhill percentage is much bigger.
The course i do 95% of my runs is like that, down 30m then up 30m.
It is a closed loop and exactly 2.5km long, so i am mostly always finishing at the exact point i started, the total uphill equals total downhill.
One would expect the gains and losses to be equal too so the times to be the same with a flat course, right? Wrong. I have repeatedly measured in different distances and fitness conditions and it seems that at all times and conditions 5K at this course is 3 minutes slower than on a flat course! A loss of about half a minute per km for a 5:00 pace.
Still upvoted.  ;D
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #5356 on: October 20, 2020, 10:01:25 am »
+2
okay after sunday's disappointment i need to do a little check-in with myself. first, i had fallen off the wagon consistency-wise in the weeks leading up to that attempt. my best friend was in town, i'd been drinking more frequently, never drinking too much at once but just not taking any days off. and the letdown after finishing my master's and wrapping up this consultancy caught up with me. my mom asked me the other day if i felt a little depressed and the answer is yes. low motivation (for me, anyway; it's not like i've been sitting on the couch nonstop for a month). the days just feel shapeless and it's easy to kind of blob out and lose hours to youtube videos and twitter. feels bad.

on the plus side, i'm healthy and the 20:13 was a good little slap on the ass to get me moving. i've been doing a little reading this morning and i think i need to do a couple of things. first is recommit to a schedule, not just for running but for life in general. i have a LOT of free time at the moment, and also a lot of things that i need to/would like to be doing. so, here's what i'm thinking:

1. build weekly volume and day-to-day consistency back up with renewed commitment to hard-days-hard, easy-days-easy approach.
2. complete "beginner" level of justin guitar course, practicing at least 1.5 hours per day at least six days per week. reach a couple of song mastery goals (norwegian wood, wish you were here, brown eyed girl, the passenger, bad moon rising); start to work more on finger-picking with an eye toward little martha, percy's song, and don't think twice it's alright; finish composing 2 songs.
3. spend at least an hour a day helping out around the house (cooking, cleaning, doing errands, new remodeling projects, etc.).
4. do job outreach every day. i've got an interview on thursday for something i applied for recently, which is positive although i probably won't take it. need to follow up with one guy and start to reach out to my network here about consultancies.

running-wise, this is what i'm thinking (will change signature to match):

sunday: long run, very easy, work on slowing down close to 6:00 pace and up to 2 hours
monday: rest + stretch/strength
tuesday: 60-minute easy run
wednesday: intensive tempo (e.g. 12 x 400m @5k pace -5s w/3 mins rest) OR hill repeats
thursday: 60-minute easy run
friday: 30-40-minute easy run + stretch/strength
saturday: extensive tempo (e.g. 5 x [1 km easy, 1 km @5k pace +30s])

overall i think i need to be less focused on distance and more on time and intensity. i've shied away from hilly courses because they force me to run slower and i don't like how that looks on the clock. vain. now more weekly mileage target, easy day pace needs to back off. i won't hold myself absolutely to the friday runs, that's just if i feel good and want to get out. strength will be push ups and pull ups, core work, and low-intensity lower body stuff like glute bridges and scales. need to try to get my dad involved in those sessions.

finally, every 3-4 weeks i'll change the wednesday run to an easy one, skip thursday and friday, and do a 5k time trial on saturday. need to be pushing myself more at the thing i'm actually trying to improve, learning how to run that distance hard.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2020, 10:21:35 am by LBSS »
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #5357 on: October 20, 2020, 05:13:55 pm »
+3
FWIW , uphill-downhill situations are definitely deteriorating performance, unless downhill percentage is much bigger.
The course i do 95% of my runs is like that, down 30m then up 30m.
It is a closed loop and exactly 2.5km long, so i am mostly always finishing at the exact point i started, the total uphill equals total downhill.
One would expect the gains and losses to be equal too so the times to be the same with a flat course, right? Wrong. I have repeatedly measured in different distances and fitness conditions and it seems that at all times and conditions 5K at this course is 3 minutes slower than on a flat course! A loss of about half a minute per km for a 5:00 pace.
Still upvoted.  ;D

kind of you, lol.

got a hair cut today. barely recognize myself, it's like my head is a different size.

- run 59:08 (11.23 km)
avoided checking pace, ended up averaging 5.15 km. 126m elevation gain is good, more than usual.

- stretch

gotta throw away the kinvara 11s. they give me blisters some of the time, which is below the acceptable bar of "never." i tried to make 'em work, oh well.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #5358 on: October 21, 2020, 07:27:29 pm »
+2
- warm up; hill sprints 100m x 6 w/walk down recovery; cool down
total distance just 5.15 km but this was hard. total elevation gain 95m over the course of the run. the hill is 20 degrees which is really steep. did proper sprints and was slowing down a little at the end of each rep. felt good, though. i think i'll do this at least once a week or every other week, alternating with a track day, and add reps over time. lower legs oddly sore, especially shins.

- stretch
« Last Edit: October 21, 2020, 07:31:18 pm by LBSS »
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #5359 on: October 22, 2020, 05:53:05 pm »
+3
- run 11.39 km in 1:00:02

- stretch

lower legs pretty sore. i think it's from the last run in kinvara 11s, when i started really jacking up my footfall to minimize the blister pain. lame. oh well, it'll pass. need to figure out what shoes i'm gonna get now because my older kinvaras are wearing out.
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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #5360 on: October 23, 2020, 05:01:18 pm »
+1
- circuit x 4
-- jump rope x 100
-- push up x 15
-- suitcase carry +50 lbs. x ~60 feet/side
-- pull up x 5

- circuit x 2
-- scales front and back x 5/leg
-- hollow body hold x 30s

- stretch

did barefoot on our new deck, which because my parents are cool is made from wood and not some kind of plastic composite like most of the neighbors' decks. barefoot means i can't do lunges and need to be careful with the jumping rope. felt great though.

my dad made four ~25-pound sandbags with handles, that's what i used for the suitcase carries.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2020, 05:03:30 pm by LBSS »
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #5361 on: October 25, 2020, 09:47:17 am »
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tweaked something in my right ankle on thursday, forgot to log it. it's not serious, i don't think. didn't run yesterday as a result.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #5362 on: October 25, 2020, 04:49:39 pm »
+2
- run 19.15 km in 1:52:52
40s and drizzling, 5:54 average pace, felt incredible. like i could have kept going forever. focused on slowing way down, pretty much succeeded. meant to do a full two hours but took a route on the way back that was more of a shortcut than i expected. not beating myself up about it. DC's so small, i ran almost all the way to the white house. if i took the shortest route it would not be out of the question to run there and back in 2 hours at a relaxed pace. good to know.

- stretch

while i was out, my dad made pumpkin bread. god-tier smell, incredible. gonna go stuff half the loaf in my face now.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #5363 on: October 27, 2020, 06:04:30 pm »
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- run 11.4 km in 59:46 [a few strides in the final km]
tried a new route today, straight down eastern ave. not to be repeated. too many big road crossings and too much fumes.

- stretch
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #5364 on: October 28, 2020, 06:53:22 pm »
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- warm up; intervals 400m in [85, 88, 87, 85, 87, 87, 86, 83] w/3:00 jogging rest; cool down
total distance just over 9 km. this workout is better with jogging rest (walking is too easy).

there was a group running at the track that actually looked pretty fit, one guy was really flying. i talked to them afterwards and turns out this is a regular thing, they belong to a local running club and have been working out together on wednesday evenings. got the fast dude's email (he did an 11:38 2-mile and then what must have been a similarly quick mile with a few minutes of rest in between) and will try to hook up with them in the future. would be cool to have a group to train with, especially if someone in the group is fitter than i am.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #5365 on: October 29, 2020, 01:16:18 pm »
+1
hurricane zeta is coming through today, may not run depending on how much the rain lets up in the afternoon. it is coming down pretty hard right now. should be clear by tomorrow. i'm down to one pair of shoes so i don't want to get them soaked.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #5366 on: October 30, 2020, 06:18:40 pm »
+3
- circuit x 4
-- jump rope x 100
-- push up x 16,15,15,15
-- lunge +50lb sandbags x 8
-- pull up x 6,5,5,5

rushed through because stuff is starting to get hectic in the runup to the election and i managed time badly today. training gonna take a back seat for the next week, i'm afraid.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #5367 on: October 30, 2020, 11:23:34 pm »
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- warm up; intervals 400m in [85, 88, 87, 85, 87, 87, 86, 83] w/3:00 jogging rest; cool down
total distance just over 9 km. this workout is better with jogging rest (walking is too easy).

there was a group running at the track that actually looked pretty fit, one guy was really flying. i talked to them afterwards and turns out this is a regular thing, they belong to a local running club and have been working out together on wednesday evenings. got the fast dude's email (he did an 11:38 2-mile and then what must have been a similarly quick mile with a few minutes of rest in between) and will try to hook up with them in the future. would be cool to have a group to train with, especially if someone in the group is fitter than i am.

awesome man! training with a good group can be pretty fun, and really elevate your running crazy fast. it's awesome how the "pack" just boosts your ability so quick.

sounds like a good group to run with occasionally, nice !

sux about the kinvaras. any shoe that causes blisters/toenail pain etc, have to ditch em immediately - never gets better. i wrecked so many toenails like that, being stubborn about a particular shoe or wanting them snug (but too snug).

hope all is good w/ zeta.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #5368 on: October 31, 2020, 06:09:58 pm »
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just realized i didn't order my new shoes the other day because the adidas website is busted.  >:(  had to order just now, confirmed it went through. old shoes are stinky, time for another wash. wonder how many miles i've put on them.

- run 50:56
just over 10 km, nice and relaxed. glutes sore from the lunges! good stuff, should keep those lunges in.

as i alluded to above, this week is going to be hectic. won't hold myself to any plan, just run if it looks like i have a window to do so.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #5369 on: November 02, 2020, 06:44:18 am »
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Adidas? What did you get?
I read the new Sauconys are the shit, everyone is going nuts about them, fast, cushioned, light, everything is great. Except the price lol
I got the Nike Pegasus Turbo 2 , pretty happy with them. Sexy AF , lightweight, fast, yet well cushioned. A really great everyday trainer, equally good for fast and long-slow.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?