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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3735 on: July 01, 2016, 05:31:11 am »
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- one-step RVJ x 3
PR tie on first and second jumps, roll tide

- DLRVJ x ~15
started out bad but i stuck with it, got angrier and angrier, ended up getting a bunch of clean dunks with the dodgeball (no one around to throw lobs) and then hit 36.5 without the ball. best jumps in a long time. lot of cursing involved.

- continuous backboard touches x 8,8

- squat 315 x 1; paused speed squat 275 x 5
manhandled  the paused set, very strong

 :raging:

damn.. definitely seems like a rage session :/

good work though, seems like you killed it.

we need an Uber service for Lobbers.. if you're jumping like that, just call up the uber lobber.



^^^me, too. thanks.

took this vid a couple of days ago, didn't realize i was doing that weird kickback with the off leg until i watched.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joAD8Ie8MZM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joAD8Ie8MZM</a>

looks odd but, also kind of makes sense. it's almost as if you're trying to DLVJ, while actually doing an SLVJ.. the off leg is firing just as if you were doing a double leg vj (DLVJ). I imagine if you did a 'walk into it' you'd probably flex the off leg at the hip, more like a layup/slrvj.

regardless, looks strong.. that's a tough exercise.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3736 on: July 01, 2016, 04:03:00 pm »
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^^^me, too. thanks.

took this vid a couple of days ago, didn't realize i was doing that weird kickback with the off leg until i watched.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joAD8Ie8MZM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joAD8Ie8MZM</a>

How high do you get on each leg?  What's your current SVJ?

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3737 on: July 01, 2016, 04:29:49 pm »
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SL SVJs... pretty cool. might try these
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3738 on: July 03, 2016, 05:45:34 pm »
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GP adarq, i think that's what it is. i'm going to start trying to do them with a leg lift, as in a SLRVJ.

T0ddday, i dunno how high i get. should check. certainly higher than when i started doing them.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3739 on: July 03, 2016, 07:00:27 pm »
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how high are you touching now btw?

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3740 on: July 03, 2016, 09:20:50 pm »
+1
^^^10'5-6 regularly, 10'7 when i'm really flying

just got back from the trip. went okay, brother was able to join and we held it together for the most part, despite recent events. still, glad to be back. sitting for too long in the car (or plane) makes my right knee hurt, i think. it's gotten stiff from that forever, at least since i was a teenager, but the pain correlation (causation?) is more recent. it's really bugging me now.

just did

- daily routine

with my mom. right knee is in pain. looks like acole and i are going to work out tomorrow, should be fun!
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3741 on: July 03, 2016, 11:04:21 pm »
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i see, nice. thats where i'm around too.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3742 on: July 03, 2016, 11:13:58 pm »
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GP adarq, i think that's what it is. i'm going to start trying to do them with a leg lift, as in a SLRVJ.

T0ddday, i dunno how high i get. should check. certainly higher than when i started doing them.

I really like this exercise as a teaching tool to help athletes understand jumping and the different types of jumps...  At the far ends of the spectrum we think of the standing vertical jump and the running single leg jump...

What's interesting is that for a good athlete the standing single leg jump is more similar to a standing vertical than the approach plant two legged jump which is more similar to a running single leg jump...

This exercise helps us learn it's not simply jumping off one or two feet that makes the jump different...

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3743 on: July 03, 2016, 11:20:59 pm »
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^^
just read that, sounds interesting. could you go more in depth into it?

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3744 on: July 04, 2016, 12:48:31 pm »
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my SL SVJ is not at all similar to my normal SVJ. you know this, T0ddday, i dip like kingfish on my SVJ.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3745 on: July 04, 2016, 12:50:14 pm »
+3
WEIGHT: ???
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: right knee
MENTAL STATE: great

- warm up

- skater jump x 20,10

- one-step RVJ x 4
P motherfucking R. hit 36+. holy shit. have vid, will post later. acole can attest anyway.

- DLRVJ x ~15
dunk attempts. didn't get one, got very close on maybe 5-6. fuck. felt great though.

- continuous backboard touches x 8,8

- paused speed squat 285 x 5,5

- DB OHP 55s x 10,10

- pull up x 8,6,4,2

- MB OH toss x 5

legs toast, so dead.

what up acole.
« Last Edit: July 04, 2016, 01:00:39 pm by LBSS »
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3746 on: July 04, 2016, 04:03:38 pm »
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my SL SVJ is not at all similar to my normal SVJ. you know this, T0ddday, i dip like kingfish on my SVJ.

LOL.  You used to dip like kingfish on your SVJ.  I don't think it's worth the work but IMO you look completely different now.  Watching your ball throws and jumps you look about 10X more hip dominant and your pop is light years better than it was...

I mean you jumped 36'' off one step...  I bet if your goal was to maximize your SVJ you would move away from that massive dip and find you actually can just just as high or higher without it now... No point in doing it because your goal is dunk, dunk, dunk, dunk.... But I would still bet on it...

What I mean isn't that it "looks" like it so much but that the muscles used and body positions are more similar. 

A good running single leg jump has the center of mass lower before the penultimate step - when you do a running SL vertical jump on the last step you are dealing with a body that is accelerating upward and forward - the last step is a change of momentum moreso than a vertical impulse. 

When you do a running DLVJ with a lot of speed you will often notice that the back leg (in a RL plant this is the right leg) is actually coming off the ground before the left leg - this is similar to a running single leg vertical jump... 

The point is that in a single leg vertical jump you have to generate the vertical impulse on one leg - perhaps if we made kingfish do this he would go full out pistol on these...   People with great running SL verticals do not necessarily have great single leg standing verticals - the correlation isn't there.   This is what I mean by a teaching tool...  If we train SL vertical and then allow you to do pentultimate sl legs it does help the athlete learn what SL running jumping is... 

I'm not sure if that is well written - maybe it makes no sense... Would probably take some time to write up and explain well...

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3747 on: July 04, 2016, 11:03:59 pm »
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the one-step PR is at 0:21. dunk attempts start at 2:00. huge thanks to acole for the patience -- great training with you today man!

edited it wrong, cut out a couple of decent attempts and included a couple of bad ones. oh well, can't be bothered to re-edit it. the dodgeball one i did just out of frustration.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_baJ395taA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_baJ395taA</a>
« Last Edit: July 04, 2016, 11:05:55 pm by LBSS »
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3748 on: July 05, 2016, 08:34:08 am »
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the one-step PR is at 0:21. dunk attempts start at 2:00. huge thanks to acole for the patience -- great training with you today man!

edited it wrong, cut out a couple of decent attempts and included a couple of bad ones. oh well, can't be bothered to re-edit it. the dodgeball one i did just out of frustration.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_baJ395taA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_baJ395taA</a>

Looks like you guys had fun.

If the timing was better on a couple of those lobs you would've got dunks. Just unlucky since you were getting enough height. 
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #3749 on: July 06, 2016, 03:59:17 am »
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the one-step PR is at 0:21. dunk attempts start at 2:00. huge thanks to acole for the patience -- great training with you today man!

edited it wrong, cut out a couple of decent attempts and included a couple of bad ones. oh well, can't be bothered to re-edit it. the dodgeball one i did just out of frustration.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_baJ395taA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_baJ395taA</a>

:wowthatwasnutswtf: @ the 1-step PR at 0:21, that was a very nasty jump.

edit: man you could have landed a damn dunk off that 1-step heh. nasty.



also, 2:44 would have been a really nasty make.. had you been there 0.1s earlier or acole thrown it 0.1s later, that would have gone down very hard. I really wanted to see that one go down.



Looks like you guys had fun.

ya for sure.