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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2940 on: May 06, 2015, 09:52:55 pm »
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yeah i do need to figure out what i can be progressing on, because progress on jumps is too slow and fitful to really track week to week. or i'm too dumb to figure out how to make a program that gets me progressively overloading and peaking for jumps.

dad home from hospital, all's fine. he's got some new medicine but otherwise seems to just have been a freak thing.

WEIGHT: ???
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: left hip a little sticky
MENTAL STATE: okay

- warm up

- DRLVJ x a few
pretty terrible, not worth doing ME jumps if height is so bad.

- MR half tuck x 19,18; SL MR half tuck x 20/leg

- squat 265 x 5,5,5
yeesh, all over the place and harder than it should have been. last four reps were good though.

- pull up x 10+3+3+3+1

- DB OHP 40s x 10+3+3+3

- stretch

feel better than yesterday.

thoughts about what i should be focusing on for the next little while? i'm not going to give up jumping whenever i can but like i said, it's hard for me to progress on predictably and that gets discouraging.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2941 on: May 07, 2015, 05:51:47 am »
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What about broad jumps? You can measure them and put a cone and try to beat it. They're single response so you can focus on them maximally. Same with SVJ.
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All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2942 on: May 07, 2015, 08:49:47 am »
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Maybe put your focus on getting your skwaats up with a ME/DE type of split, cut back on the jumping volume a bit and slowly add more and more in as your squats go up.  Also Olympic lifts could be a nice change
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2943 on: May 09, 2015, 07:04:58 am »
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yeah i do need to figure out what i can be progressing on, because progress on jumps is too slow and fitful to really track week to week. or i'm too dumb to figure out how to make a program that gets me progressively overloading and peaking for jumps.

It doesn't have to be complicated. You could do something like this:

4 sessions/week --> can be two court/two gym split if no track

3 week blocks --> 12 sessions/block

1 rest week with max testing of DLRVJ, squats, broad jump, 60m, SVJs etc.

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Session #1: max jumps practice and technique work/~1hr

5 mins row - aim for ~8-900m // 5-6 slow laps of court

active warmup drills - 1 rep is one length of court

"tippling" - very slow trot, shake arms and legs out and get loose

alternating butt kick

continuous butt-kick

alternating leg extension (swing the alternating leg through and extend in front, feel the glutes and hips engage as you do so)

continuous leg extension (powerful leg drive)

run backwards

straight-leg bounds

cross-overs/karaoke/zorba/grapevine whatever, do it twice facing the same direction up and back to hit both sides

stretch out

specific warm-up before jumps:

dynamic leg swings:



3x10-12 pogos

the 'DLRVJ eccentric drill' (i made it up just then): simulate the eccentric phase of the DLRVJ, not actually jumping but just taking a few steps then exploding into the eccentric phase, deep squat position with arms back and rotated ready to jump, then reset, repeat 9-10 times up the court

Work sets: 6 SVJs // 10/8/6 DLRVJs (week 1/2/3 respectively)

Cool-down

Session#2: power session in the gym/~1.5hrs

5 mins hard row, aim for 1000m

stretch out/roll/whatever

gym warmup: just do some light BW stuff (chins, dips, unweighted BSS, light KB swings)

First main exercise: either 6/5/4 sets of 5 hard KB swings @heavy, with a max effort squat jump (not CMJ) in-between each rep after 30s-1min rest OR 6/5/4 power cleans @ heavy with the jump in-between as above

Second main exercise: squats

Week 1: broad rep scheme - 7/5/3/5/7@ appropriate weight

Week 2: narrow rep scheme - 5/3/2/3/5 @ " "
 
Week 3: MSEM or just 3/2/1/2/1 @ " "

In-between: five assistance exercises, choose from these or whichever ones you think are better:

- hamstring layouts aka SL glute bridge raises with leg elevated on bench x 25/leg

- SL or straight-leg DLs with 20kgs

- hyperextensions/GHR

- BSS - light weight but really step out and work the glutes, take away the quad involvement

- crunches x 50

- incline situps x 30

- window washers x 20-30

- med ball twists @5-8kgs, 15/side for 30 total

UB: 3x10 bench@ whatever, inbetween sets: chins x F, pulls x F, lat pulldown

finish with some shoulder work - banded scapula pulls are good to prevent shoulder pain. Do it with a big smile on your face like this chick:



Session#3: on-court plyometrics OR track

Warmup: same as S1

Track: 3-4 broad jumps // 3x5 consecutive DL bounds // 3x10 SL bounds// 6/5/4 30m explosive sprints

Court: 6/5/4x1min hard skipping // 3x5 consecutive DL bounds // 6-8 submax rim touches focusing on technique

Cool-down: you can do unweighted BW stuff/core etc. depending where you are. You can really improvise here but the aim is relatively low-intensity repetition of the power-based movements for technique and to 'grease the RFD groove' (I think I'm stealing that phrase from someone but can't remember who).

Session#4: exactly the same as S3, if you can move the weight up, do it

Splits could be Mon/Tues/Thurs/Fri with weekends rest/recover/light activity or whatever...I'd have a day of rest between the gym and jump session.

So you basically drop the reps and increase the weight over the three weeks on the big exercises, with assistance work focusing on RFD and p-chain stuff. Of course, adjust the reps if needed, I'm just guessing based on your recent stuff. I'd suggest 3 ham and 2 core on the gym days. Then after the three weeks is up, you can decide how and when to test your measurables. Then repeat with heavier weight/higher jumps hopefully! Until you really crash, then you might want to ease off for a few months and build some base again.

Also, what's your weight atm? Lately it's always "???" lol. BW might be something to look at when you're getting close, nothing crazy, just trim down 1-2kgs could make a big difference. You really are close though, getting a 36'' most days is great. Let's do it man!
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2944 on: May 09, 2015, 04:15:26 pm »
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Session 1 warmups looks amazingly like my mine for leg days and hoops. :) very quick and effective!
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2945 on: May 11, 2015, 10:26:23 pm »
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thanks chris. i think i'm okay at warming up by now but otherwise that actually looks pretty interesting. i think i'll do something along those lines, with secondary goals of lowering sprint times and increasing squatting weight. may add some tempo to the track day, as well. one problem is that i'm never quite sure when the court will be free. the last couple of weeks it's been free almost every night but i don't know how long that'll last. a bit hard to plan for.

Day 1 - max effort jumps; jumping assistance; upper
Day 2 - heavy swing + squat jump; squat ladders; squat assistance
Day 3 - bounds; sprints; tempo
Day 4 - submax jumps; jumping assistance

monday - tuesday/wednesday - thursday - saturday/sunday

also i haven't weighed myself in a while but if i've changed more than 1 pound from the last time i weighed myself i'll eat a lemon.
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saturday;

WEIGHT: ???
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: none
MENTAL STATE: good

- warm up
had the stroke at the baltimore gym, could not miss. impressed the ten-year-old who was shooting around on the other rim, haha

- depth jumps @18" x 4,4,4

- ????
i forget, something else for legs

- DB row 95 x 10+3+3+3+3

- DB OHP 40 x 10+3+3+3+3

- stretch

tonight:

WEIGHT: ???
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: none to speak of; right ankle was bothering me on saturday but is okay today
MENTAL STATE: low motivation but otherwise okay, kind of weird

- warm up
took extra time getting warm, the gym was freezing at first

- DLRVJ x a bunch
hit 33 off of one step and then tanked again. never got higher than that. almost all approaches were off two steps because i just couldn't get up. something off again. switched to submax approaches and just worked

- MR half tuck x 27,24,27

- DLRVJ x a couple more submax
off two steps and then off four without the jump, just stopping in the jump position

- squat MSEM 315 x 5
fourth rep was weird, glutes felt turned off. all others solid.

gym closed so i had to dip.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2946 on: May 12, 2015, 09:51:59 pm »
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thanks chris. i think i'm okay at warming up by now but otherwise that actually looks pretty interesting. i think i'll do something along those lines, with secondary goals of lowering sprint times and increasing squatting weight. may add some tempo to the track day, as well. one problem is that i'm never quite sure when the court will be free. the last couple of weeks it's been free almost every night but i don't know how long that'll last. a bit hard to plan for.

Day 1 - max effort jumps; jumping assistance; upper
Day 2 - heavy swing + squat jump; squat ladders; squat assistance
Day 3 - bounds; sprints; tempo
Day 4 - submax jumps; jumping assistance

monday - tuesday/wednesday - thursday - saturday/sunday

also i haven't weighed myself in a while but if i've changed more than 1 pound from the last time i weighed myself i'll eat a lemon.

Not sure if @me or @Chris...anyway, that sounds good, just a bit of a change in stimuli at the very least. I think it's a good setup to experiment with. And yes, my kingdom for a indoor court that's more free than not. The gym down the road from me has a basketball court but it's booked 95% of the time for every form of non-basketball exercise you could imagine.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2947 on: May 13, 2015, 10:01:03 am »
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adarq if you're still in here, thoughts about that set-up? my only worry now is that it's kind of neither fish nor fowl, i.e. i'm still trying to do a little of everything.

considering LTMP squats on Day 4, for potentiation purposes. airborn's recent comment about them reminded me that they can feel great.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2948 on: May 13, 2015, 10:16:34 am »
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Coges's journal reminded me that I'm slacking on my Feldenkrais practice. Gotta get that in a couple times a week. Feet, ankles, hips, knees, shoulders, elbows, wrists, and neck could all benefit.

written lessons: http://www.flowingbody.com/pastlow.htm
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2949 on: May 13, 2015, 09:43:15 pm »
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WEIGHT: ???
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: lower traps a little spazzy but not too bad
MENTAL STATE: good

- warm up

- DRLVJ x ~10 (ME); x ~10 submax
good, dunked dodgeball on first attempt and rimmed out a bunch of others. 34-35+ on all jumps.

- superset x 3
-- DB swing 80 x 5
-- paused squat jump

- DB OHP 45s x 10+3+3+1

- pull up x 10+3+3+1

- stretch
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2950 on: May 14, 2015, 09:09:37 pm »
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WEIGHT: ???
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: right knee pulling weirdly during tempo, see below
MENTAL STATE: good

- warm up
jog to track, bit more than half-mile

- broad jump x 3
best <9'  :-[

- DL bound x 4,4,4
first and third right at 36', second well short  :-X

- tempo sprint x 200,200
walk 200 rest. something in my right knee started pulling at itself right away so i stopped prematurely. meant to do 4-5 reps but it felt wrong. similar feeling to what i had every few workouts last year. the discomfort comes on the recovery of my right leg, i.e. as my knee coming from behind up in front of me. vexing. need to investigate.

- stretch

my engine is weak. doing some track work and easy jogging can only be good if i can get the knee thing figured out.

not so worried about the broad jump and DL bounds, those will improve quickly as i haven't done them in eight months. at least i was getting farther per jump on the bounds than on the single jump.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2951 on: May 17, 2015, 10:29:20 pm »
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very annoyed that i did not get to the gym today. was gf's fault, was too pissed to actually talk to her about it today because it would have just been a pointless fight. will deal later in the week. anyway did 7dvjc and stretched tonight so as not to end the weekend with nothing.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2952 on: May 17, 2015, 11:03:22 pm »
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doing something >>>>>>>>>>>> doing nothing
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2953 on: May 18, 2015, 10:21:06 am »
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2954 on: May 18, 2015, 10:09:16 pm »
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WEIGHT: ???
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: none
MENTAL STATE: okay to good

- warm up

- DLRVJ x ~20
about 13-14 of these were ME. mixed in a few submax jumps focusing on relaxation. overall not great, best maybe 35 and most under that.

- ME pogo x 10,10,10

- MR half tuck x 30,30

- DB OHP 45s x 10+3+3+3
go to 50s next time. hurts wrists a little but thumb is okay.

- pull up x 10+3+3+2+1
weak, this was hard.

- stretch

okay work out.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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