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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2505 on: June 12, 2014, 03:43:46 am »
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Step-ups... very interesting...
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2506 on: June 12, 2014, 11:11:29 am »
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Step-ups... very interesting...

i dunno, seems like a good way to focus on SL triple extension: low technical requirement, can do pretty much anywhere, low impact, low likelihood of irritating my lower back.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2507 on: June 12, 2014, 11:52:44 am »
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also, looking around at inno-sport and some other korfist stuff i'm getting all depressed again about the state of my big toes. i really do think they cripple me in terms of jumping and sprinting even when they're not actively in pain.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2508 on: June 12, 2014, 11:47:01 pm »
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tonight did some SMR and stretching, focus on calves, quads and ITB.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2509 on: June 13, 2014, 03:14:29 pm »
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this afternoon shot around and did some layups for about 30 mins. very lazy, left shoulder really bugging, bad bad. better than nothing. going out of town this weekend (ANOTHER wedding) but i will do some BW stuff for hip extension and shoulder stability, if the shoulder calms down.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2510 on: June 15, 2014, 09:57:04 pm »
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can't remember the last time i had a hangover like the one i woke up with today. horrible. didn't get any food until like 7:45 PM, couldn't even keep water or gatorade down until noon. the wedding was fun, though. i got hit on mercilessly by an 85-year-old lady who called herself the queen of the potomac and told me i had a lot of ASSets and then smacked me on the ass. 

:lololol:

yesterday afternoon:

- circuit x 3
-- assisted natural GHR x 10
-- BSS x 10
-- pogo x 10
-- paused push up x 10

- stretch

today:

- lie in car with eyes closed
- sit by pool with eyes open
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2511 on: June 16, 2014, 01:01:18 am »
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This is very interesting as well:

http://inno-sport.net/Get%20Your%20Bound%20Out.htm

That chart has no basis in reality.  I trained a rugby club where I got almost every member to broad jump 8.5 feet or more.  Not one of them could break 11.70 electric.  Charts like this are stupid. 

Broad jumps and vertical jumps are tests.   Running the 100m is a sport.  Predictors for the 100m are silly... EVEN 60m predictors for the 100m are a waste of time. 

I know the 100m might not be as involved as something like playing basketball but strength gurus need to respect it a little more and realize that this is not simply a test but an event that track athletes pour their lives into it.  Claiming that you can predict it from some other athletic movement is like claiming that you can predict someones basketball skill by how high they jump.... 

Anyway, as far as LBSS is concerned...   I don't know if it's so much hip extension as much as it's hip separation.  The hips have to rotate opposite around the pelvis and they just are not doing it... When you drive your arms you are driving them both up at the same time your hips are splitting... Then you have to drive the leg down as fast the the back leg drives forward again...  Here is an example of someone far better at bounding but what I will do is tape some guys I train with who are sprinters and not good at bounding (I'll try and get our 10.0 guy on tape... he jumps 40 inches and is athletic but not necessarily a bounding expert --- seeing him would be a glimpse into bounding for athleticism)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbPScSmwxrg


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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2512 on: June 16, 2014, 09:54:37 am »
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thanks for the continued help, t0ddday.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2513 on: June 16, 2014, 10:21:31 am »
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So it is a matter of hip separation.(flexing one hip while extending the other).

Here is a test to test hip separation, not a bad evaluation.

Active Straight Leg Raise: Lie on your back and keep one leg straight on the floor as you lift the other leg (keeping it straight with the toes pointing toward the ceiling). If you cannot get the knee of the moving leg past your down knee (**without the body/hips rotating) then you need to correct this.

Here's the website where I got this to show how to correct it.

http://www.fitocracy.com/knowledge/should-you-be-sprinting/

Probably it can help, also try doing skips for height from standing for several steps see how that goes and tape it.
Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
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Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
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Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

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A Journey to Running fast and Jumping High
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2514 on: June 16, 2014, 09:36:19 pm »
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WEIGHT: ???
SORENESS: upper hams, i presume from the BSS on saturday
ACHES/INJURIES: none
MENTAL STATE: U-S-A!

- warm up

- various SL jumps and bound drills x 20 mins
doing heel-toe runs and gradually building speed seems to be a good one. doesn't get the two-arm pump but i feel like i could build from those.

- easy sprint 120y x 6
just to get the heart rate up. was completely dark by the time they finished, i guess soccer was off tonight because of the game, so there was no one there to turn on the lights?

- stretch

- cool down

will stretch again in a bit.

ETA: DL bounds are out. they come too close to irritating my back.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2014, 09:47:24 pm by LBSS »
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2515 on: June 16, 2014, 11:44:09 pm »
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the guy actually wrote back this time. their sprint workouts are generally:

- warm up
- drills
- 2 x (50,100,200,400) @85% (explicitly described as "lactate threshold" training)
- cool down

the main coach is a "marathoner who loves sprinting." so a bit dubious/disappointing with respect to speed work of the type acole's been doing and t0ddday does, and what i'm really interested in. worth checking out, though. maybe i'd meet someone there who's actually interested in sprinting and has a better idea what they're doing than i do.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2516 on: June 17, 2014, 03:49:47 am »
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Yeah, go for it. He probably also knows someone in sprinting, so explain to him what you're interested in.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2517 on: June 17, 2014, 10:25:20 pm »
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WEIGHT: ???
SORENESS: upper hams, low back a little
ACHES/INJURIES: none, just feel a little dead
MENTAL STATE: okay

- warm up

- prime times x 30y,30y,30y

- heel-toe runs x 30y,30y,30y

- SL bound x a bunch, did not keep track of distance reps or sets
wayyyy better than before, i think. instead of focusing on bringing the front leg up i focused on getting the legs split through the cycle and getting the front foot down heel-toe and driving through. still pretty ugly i think but closer to the guy in the last video t0ddday posted. will continue with heel-toe runs as a lead-in to these. helped that half the field was open so i had some space to work with

- sprint 30m x 3; 60m x 2
4.6, 4.6, 4.6; 8.3, 8.3 -- so slow, just bad news all the way around. started third 60m but stumbled a bit on the start and was like fuck it.

- stretch

gym tomorrow for upper lifting, SL leg stuff and GHRs. probably play a couple games of pick up on thursday, rest friday, and then try to have a good day of jumps on saturday.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2518 on: June 17, 2014, 11:47:27 pm »
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The 60m will get faster once you do them more. It seems like you've got decent acceleration you've just got to build up your top speed/speed endurance. 
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #2519 on: June 18, 2014, 07:35:12 am »
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The 60m will get faster once you do them more. It seems like you've got decent acceleration you've just got to build up your top speed/speed endurance.

this is my hope. i've been doing them for a few months now, though, with no real improvement. then again it's not like i've been training the smartest or most consistently with the sprints, so there's that.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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