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Squat PR (120x5, 130x3) and some 30 kg snatches
« on: December 16, 2010, 05:18:21 pm »
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130x3:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JI1fIaI7Kw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JI1fIaI7Kw</a>

120x5:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_I09mXCAkw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_I09mXCAkw</a>

Hang snatches with 35 kg (bad form, tired):
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt17ZeFunbI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt17ZeFunbI</a>

Hang snatches with 30 kg:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn0LH1AZutQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn0LH1AZutQ</a>
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Squat PR (120x5, 130x3) and some 30 kg snatches
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2010, 09:46:45 pm »
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Great videos. You made the 130 x 3 look easy!
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Re: Squat PR (120x5, 130x3) and some 30 kg snatches
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2010, 01:19:38 am »
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Thanks and yeah, I have great speed on that 130x3. Definitely can do a 140x1. The problem is my depth which is not really associated with the weight. I just can't get lower, I lack something, flexibility I think but I'm not sure where.

Even with this wide stance that I'm using I won't get lower unless I elevate my heels which I don't really want to.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Squat PR (120x5, 130x3) and some 30 kg snatches
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2010, 01:52:43 am »
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 The depth looked real good man, squats look great, huge improvement!  Youre letting the bar fly out too far away from your body on the snatch, keep the elbows as high as you can until the very last second, then get more aggressive on the catch, bar should be very close to your body the whole way up.  When you catch, "pop" the feet into a ~quarter overhead squat position and lock in the core. thinking "lead with the wrists" can be a good cue to help you keep the elbows higher and make the catch position more solid.  You will be able to handle alot more weight once you get this down, youre going in a big arc that is taking away your leverage over the bar.
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Re: Squat PR (120x5, 130x3) and some 30 kg snatches
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2010, 03:00:47 am »
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Yeah I have a lot of shoulder involvement in the 35 kg variant... I could feel they were bad.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Squat PR (120x5, 130x3) and some 30 kg snatches
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2010, 03:24:16 am »
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 Its not that bad, you just loop the bar path so it has a very long way to travel rather than going up in a straight line.  Just looked again and noticed your feet look a little wide, try starting in a foot position you would do a svj from, youll get more power into it that way.
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Re: Squat PR (120x5, 130x3) and some 30 kg snatches
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2010, 04:23:45 am »
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Hey great job on the squats man. Thats the best form Ive seen you use ever. And the best depth. Nice going.  :headbang:

The snatches is a different story, but Lance is taking care of that, so that will get better quick. Looking forward to seeing some new snatch vid with great form.

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Re: Squat PR (120x5, 130x3) and some 30 kg snatches
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2010, 04:25:33 am »
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whoa, raptor in a fitness gym.. wtf

nice skwats.

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Re: Squat PR (120x5, 130x3) and some 30 kg snatches
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2010, 05:42:39 am »
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Its not that bad, you just loop the bar path so it has a very long way to travel rather than going up in a straight line.  Just looked again and noticed your feet look a little wide, try starting in a foot position you would do a svj from, youll get more power into it that way.

Yeah I always do that, with both power snatches and power cleans, and especially for the hang variants. I usually start the movement well with the hips and all that and the arms are like ropes, but then as I go up I stop extending at the hips/legs and the movement becomes "arm" driven. Will try the hook grip next time (here it was a "quasi-hook" grip). But I just have this problem and it applies to jumping as well - I stop the hip extension before it is completed, like I can't trust I can stop it properly so I stop it early. Maybe a sign of ab weakness and the CNS feels it and tries to protect against injury so it shuts down the hip extension early?

Hey great job on the squats man. Thats the best form Ive seen you use ever. And the best depth. Nice going.  :headbang:

The snatches is a different story, but Lance is taking care of that, so that will get better quick. Looking forward to seeing some new snatch vid with great form.

Thanks :D

As for the snatches, yes Lance is great on them and explaining but it's still up to me to do it... and I don't currently trust my abilities to do it...

whoa, raptor in a fitness gym.. wtf

nice skwats.

Yup. I'm a rich bastard. Oh wait... :D

But anyway, this absolutely blows my former PR of a VERY HARD 130x1 high bar squat set like 1 year ago... man that felt soooo heavy. This was planned to go 130x1 as well but since I had so much speed out of the whole I was like "hey, I can do a few more reps with this".

I was expecting to be a major difference between 120 and 130 based on my last try when I was high bar squatting but it was just very slightly heavier yesterday. That's why I think I can squat 140.


PS. I'm still amazed nobody talked about the girl in pink.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2010, 05:50:23 am by Raptor »
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Squat PR (120x5, 130x3) and some 30 kg snatches
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2010, 06:10:29 am »
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Yup , those squats are awesome.
Even more props for PRx3 when it was planned for PRx1.
More to come , keep it up...
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Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Squat PR (120x5, 130x3) and some 30 kg snatches
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2010, 06:27:26 am »
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Thanks and yeah, that was like totally unexpected. I mean, I was wavering if I could do one rep, thinking about if I need to drop the bar and all that. Guess it's going to happen again when I try the 140, although I'm very confident I can do it.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Squat PR (120x5, 130x3) and some 30 kg snatches
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2010, 09:07:16 am »
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140x1 today :personal-record:
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Squat PR (120x5, 130x3) and some 30 kg snatches
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2010, 05:47:15 pm »
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congrats!
re-evaluate, daniel-san, re-evaluate