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Re: Age vs Vertical :: various Q&A ( programming , exercise form etc )
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2012, 07:05:43 am »
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Next question:

I was going through those Total Daily Energy Expenditure calculators and articles and i think i was mistaken , AGAIN!!!  :uhhhfacepalm:  :uhhhfacepalm:  :uhhhfacepalm:
I was using 2000Kcals as my daily expenditure base ( BMR + 100kcals ) but it seems that it is a serious underestimation.
My average day ( which includes 10-12 hrs of light activity , aka computer work, driving, doing housework etc ) TDEE seems to be more realistically at around 2400-2500 kcals.
I will use this as a base from now on , adding the extra activity as i did ( e.g. weights , bball etc ).
The most convenient TDEE calculator i found is on exrx , considers bf% and all activities : http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/CalRequire.html

Any objections?
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical :: various Q&A ( programming , exercise form etc )
« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2012, 09:25:22 am »
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that gives me a baseline of 3721, which seems really high.

new thread.
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Re: Age vs Vertical :: various Q&A ( programming , exercise form etc )
« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2012, 10:27:40 am »
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Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical :: various Q&A ( programming , exercise form etc )
« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2012, 11:00:15 am »
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New RDL form check. Still at 80kg, trying to implement all cues ( glutes fired forward at start, feel glutes through all movement, slow down eccentric, knee bend from beginning to end , pull bar to hip crease ):

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldfE0SGGvxU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldfE0SGGvxU</a>

Feedback?
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical :: various Q&A ( programming , exercise form etc )
« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2012, 06:01:29 pm »
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To me... it seems like when you hit the bottom of the lift you have a tendency to relax ... "mentally". Like you "give out" for just a split second and then reset your effort and start pulling up, especially the first few reps.

The other thing is your head position... I'd maintain a more "down-oriented" eye and head position instead of what you're doing now (basically trying to keep the spine, all the way up to the head, stationary). This also has the possibility of improving the hip drive.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical :: various Q&A ( programming , exercise form etc )
« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2012, 06:35:29 pm »
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New RDL form check. Still at 80kg, trying to implement all cues ( glutes fired forward at start, feel glutes through all movement, slow down eccentric, knee bend from beginning to end , pull bar to hip crease ):

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldfE0SGGvxU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldfE0SGGvxU</a>

Feedback?

Looks good vag, just make sure to stay on the heels the whole time.  You have a little forward rock there in a few reps where you get kicked onto the forefoot a little, causing you to lose a little tightness.  Easy to fix though, and you are driving from the glutes MUCH better there.
Relax.

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Re: Age vs Vertical :: various Q&A ( programming , exercise form etc )
« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2012, 12:24:43 pm »
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Raptor : I don't relax at the bottom, i do reset at each rep but that's on the top. My reps still look a bit 'stiff' or 'mechanical', as i have to think each cue of this new form at each rep, movement looks and feels not natural and smooth at all. That will come over time, for now i am just trying to make sure i got it down right.
Lance : Right, I totally forgot the weight over heels cue.  :uhhhfacepalm:
Thanks!
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical :: various Q&A ( programming , exercise form etc )
« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2012, 09:18:56 am »
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Introducing... FRONT SQUATS!!! ( entropy must be going  :wowthatwasnutswtf: )

I have never front squatted ever so far so i ramped up 3's and filmed all sets to see how load affects form.
I lost depth at 154lbs so only did a single , also threw a backsquat single for comparison.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8I-P3mxFYI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8I-P3mxFYI</a>

Feedback in all aspects ( depth , form , bar positioning/grip etc ) very welcomed as im a total noob in front squats...
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical :: various Q&A ( programming , exercise form etc )
« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2012, 01:02:47 pm »
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  Looks good vag, very nice!  How did they feel?
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Re: Age vs Vertical :: various Q&A ( programming , exercise form etc )
« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2012, 06:40:50 am »
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  Looks good vag, very nice!  How did they feel?

Thanks Lance!!!
They felt great: Very natural and smooth, torso staying upright without having to cue it, achieving full depth very easy. Loved them!
On the other hand, at the last 2 sets ( 60 and 70 kg ) bar felt uncomfortable to stabilize on chest/shoulders.

I think i will replace Friday's back squats with front squats and see how it goes. That way i do backsquats monday, RDL wednesday, front squats friday, all with the 3-set-progress scheme.
Are you ok with that change?
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical :: various Q&A ( programming , exercise form etc )
« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2012, 05:53:48 am »
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  Looks good vag, very nice!  How did they feel?

Thanks Lance!!!
They felt great: Very natural and smooth, torso staying upright without having to cue it, achieving full depth very easy. Loved them!
On the other hand, at the last 2 sets ( 60 and 70 kg ) bar felt uncomfortable to stabilize on chest/shoulders.

I think i will replace Friday's back squats with front squats and see how it goes. That way i do backsquats monday, RDL wednesday, front squats friday, all with the 3-set-progress scheme.
Are you ok with that change?

I think its a good idea, that will make progress continue longer and you wouldve eventually had to add another squat variation anyhow.  Front squats are always a great exercise to add for people who can do them pain free, keeps the squat "true".
Relax.

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Re: Age vs Vertical :: various Q&A ( programming , exercise form etc )
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2012, 09:11:34 am »
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  Looks good vag, very nice!  How did they feel?

Thanks Lance!!!
They felt great: Very natural and smooth, torso staying upright without having to cue it, achieving full depth very easy. Loved them!
On the other hand, at the last 2 sets ( 60 and 70 kg ) bar felt uncomfortable to stabilize on chest/shoulders.

That's how they looked too. Did you feel your legs loaded? That's the holy grail. Am impressed to see you have such good form straight away. FS fits you like a glove. Made my day!
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Re: Age vs Vertical :: various Q&A ( programming , exercise form etc )
« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2012, 11:01:15 am »
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I think its a good idea, that will make progress continue longer and you wouldve eventually had to add another squat variation anyhow.  Front squats are always a great exercise to add for people who can do them pain free, keeps the squat "true".

Thanks , keeping the change.

Did you feel your legs loaded? That's the holy grail. Am impressed to see you have such good form straight away. FS fits you like a glove.

I felt that legs load perfectly but i didn't do enough volume, this Friday that i am adding them in the 3-sets-progress routine will tell more.
I was impressed too, before getting the lifting shoes i was unable to do a single rep even with empty bar, no exaggeration.

Made my day!

Told you so:
Introducing... FRONT SQUATS!!! ( entropy must be going  :wowthatwasnutswtf: )

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Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?