Ok , those are better arguments. Besides the caps and ass references! 
They are the same arguments. What is better is your understanding of it.
The 16% 1RM works for my argument though , the less the 1RM difference shown in that graph the more the heavy resistance curve is deliverately 'shortened' and hinders higher strength's benefits.
How is it "deliberately" shortened? What is deliberately shortening it? And by shortening you are talking about the 0.2s timeframe right? Because in that case, the curve is being "shortened" due to a program dominated by heavy resistance training.
About kingfish , i mentioned him as an example of someone that dramaticaly increased his VJ pushing limit strength.
Yes I knew that.
He chose to shift his curve upwards and won.
Right what I am saying is he achieved one goal, in the time frame of around 0.4s ish.
If you can shift your curve up AND left ,then you win more , noone will disagree on that.
Right,
1. Up and left relative to a specific time frame. If you look at the graph again, the curve is shifted left, but not up overall, in that 1RM is clearly less in the explosive-ballistic trained group, however at 0.2s, it is greater up, so up+ left happened in the graph (actually it didn't because they didn't tae the heavy resistance trained group and put them on the explosiveballistic trained program.. but for our purposes that is a better way of lookig at it since that is what we are trying to prescribe).
Ruso is not that strong though , he squats ~300, imo getting stronger is a better choice for him.
Front squat though. But more importantly, he said he has seen no change in his vertical jump. That's more important than the overall number.
But you argue with me as if i favoured slow lifts, i never said anything about slow lifts. If you feel like it , go back to the 1st page and see my repy to you where i say i hate how heavy strength training is considered powerlifting grinders. You jsut confirmed that stereotype i think...
All heavy lifts are slow lifts. Period. If it's greater than 0.2ms, it's slow. If your goal is to increase power in 0.4s, training at 0.5s is slow. That's not necessarily bad, and the difference between 0.5 and 0.4 is marginal, but with lifting, we are talking more like 4.0 and 50 seconds per repeition, and time undertension, which is just on another level of "slow."
I think our different ways of seeing vert training meet at Verkoshansky's MSEM method.
Maybe it would be a good idea for ruso too...
maybe, I remember the details of that method except it invovles too much exercise (5d/wk right?). I dont have time for that.
Ruso however doesn't look slow in his videos. I am not sure our arguments are even relevant anymore, i.e., it's not abotu strength or speed anymore, it's about his form. He is using his glutes and hips to jump. He needs to use his quads. However in his depth jump, it looks more balanced. So Don't know what to say about that, keep doing depth jumps.
But more clearly in the svj, he's not using those 300+lbs front squat strength because he is jumping using a similar movement pattern as his power snatch. Look at 1:34 on page 2 of his latest video. That's not a vertical jump, that's a bend-your-hips-back-and-jump. This might be better for a BROAD JUMP.
IN FACT RUSO... WHAT IS YOUR BROAD JUMP?
Also back angle tells us a lot about hip involvement.
Jump squats though imo are a good idea still because that will force him to use his quads when jumping and help transfer that latent front squat strength to strength in a 1/2 squat position. So..
Keep front squats
But do jump squats too. That's it nothing else. Do them in 1/2 half position. and 1/4 position, and below parallel.
And try to SVJ more slowly using quads.
