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BMully

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Standing Broad Jump
« on: July 10, 2010, 07:28:40 pm »
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This is hard!

I tried it yesterday, i never cheat so this is legit
my back foot hit 9ft @ my best attempt and that may not be legit, I probably hit 8ft..so 8-9Ft which is pretty sad
It was really hard, i had no form for it

anyone else try this out?
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Re: Standing Broad Jump
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2010, 03:39:08 pm »
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Quote from: BMully on July 10, 2010, 07:28:40 pm
This is hard!

I tried it yesterday, i never cheat so this is legit
my back foot hit 9ft @ my best attempt and that may not be legit, I probably hit 8ft..so 8-9Ft which is pretty sad
It was really hard, i had no form for it

anyone else try this out?

best ive hit was 104 or something, i forget.. im like 96" or so on it now (8').. broad jump always wrecks my knees.

this is jamie mcowen, went from like 110" broad jump to 123" in 3 months, shit was ridiculous:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bur4-pjwzJA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bur4-pjwzJA</a>

that's the biggest broad jump improvement i've ever seen, shit was rugged.







i personally hate broad jumping, kills my knees, but i like doing MR hurdle leaps for distance etc.. i just don't like landing real deep and breaking all that momentum.. i love watching broad jumps though, i can't imagine being able to jump 11' like that, like some defensive backs do.

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Re: Standing Broad Jump
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2010, 04:33:20 pm »
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N=2 (me + adarq) evidence for why broad jump is completely useless w/r/t vert, dunking, whatever:

Before my ankle sprain I was messing around in between sets during a workout and broad jumped 9', or farther than adarq has ever jumped in his life, even at his peak. No warm up, just jumped. And yet I probably have the worst vert (definitely the worst running vert) on this whole forum at the moment, even without the sprain.
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Re: Standing Broad Jump
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2010, 05:18:39 pm »
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I have never measured it but it sounds like fun and I'd like to give it a try! So how is it measured? From toes at start to heels at finish?
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Re: Standing Broad Jump
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2010, 06:18:43 pm »
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^^^Exactly. Toes behind a line, jump, measure from the farthest-back heel. If you lose balance and fall on your ass, measure from your ass  :D

And it is fun, unless you do it on concrete. Then, as adarq says, it hurts like a bitch. I'd recommend a track or gym floor (that kind of bouncy black stuff they put down in weight rooms).
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Re: Standing Broad Jump
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2010, 07:14:09 pm »
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Quote from: LBSS on July 12, 2010, 06:18:43 pm
^^^Exactly. Toes behind a line, jump, measure from the farthest-back heel. If you lose balance and fall on your ass, measure from your ass  :D

And it is fun, unless you do it on concrete. Then, as adarq says, it hurts like a bitch. I'd recommend a track or gym floor (that kind of bouncy black stuff they put down in weight rooms).

lol ya don't do it on pure concrete like my dumb ass :)

do it on a field or something.. broad jump is actually the most intense test, of all of the tests, imo.. the landing is what is most risky.. we used to use broad jumps over hurdles to minimize the stress of the landing, to constantly test hip power, it worked very well.. for example, if you could get 120" on broad jump, then you could get around 70" over a 30" hurdle.
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Re: Standing Broad Jump
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2010, 11:42:28 pm »
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Quote from: LBSS on July 12, 2010, 04:33:20 pm
N=2 (me + adarq) evidence for why broad jump is completely useless w/r/t vert, dunking, whatever:

Before my ankle sprain I was messing around in between sets during a workout and broad jumped 9', or farther than adarq has ever jumped in his life, even at his peak. No warm up, just jumped. And yet I probably have the worst vert (definitely the worst running vert) on this whole forum at the moment, even without the sprain.

wats ur rvj and svj?
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Re: Standing Broad Jump
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2010, 12:01:17 am »
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Quote from: zginphil on July 12, 2010, 11:42:28 pm
Quote from: LBSS on July 12, 2010, 04:33:20 pm
N=2 (me + adarq) evidence for why broad jump is completely useless w/r/t vert, dunking, whatever:

Before my ankle sprain I was messing around in between sets during a workout and broad jumped 9', or farther than adarq has ever jumped in his life, even at his peak. No warm up, just jumped. And yet I probably have the worst vert (definitely the worst running vert) on this whole forum at the moment, even without the sprain.

wats ur rvj and svj?

At the moment approximately 0" for SVJ and 0" for RVJ. I haven't jumped in at least a month and hadn't measured for a while before that. All-time PRs are probably 28" and 32". Once the ankle is back to normal I will test and share my shame, probably in the RVJ-SVJ drop-off thread. Stay tuned!
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Re: Standing Broad Jump
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2010, 03:21:40 am »
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Quote from: LBSS on July 12, 2010, 04:33:20 pm
N=2 (me + adarq) evidence for why broad jump is completely useless w/r/t vert, dunking, whatever:

Before my ankle sprain I was messing around in between sets during a workout and broad jumped 9', or farther than adarq has ever jumped in his life, even at his peak. No warm up, just jumped. And yet I probably have the worst vert (definitely the worst running vert) on this whole forum at the moment, even without the sprain.

the track event though? the long jump! it's basically a running broad jump, same thing in my lay men eyes..

do you have long legs?

idk this really seems like a good test 2 me but what do i know


I have to admit the people who jump higher than me long jump longer than me so this must be a crazy freak thing with you there

9ft is actually nothing super special though, i can hit 8Ft and that was after lifting so i'll try it with me being fresh and warmed up
hopefully i'll hit 9 1/2ft and beat both of you haha jk jk
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Re: Standing Broad Jump
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2010, 03:48:06 am »
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my best broad jump (well only time i done it was last year) was 2.85 metres  ~112", I want to start recording it again and hit 3m......................THAT VID ANDREW POSTED UP WAS CRAZY!

The broad jump seems to use a fair amount more glute (hip extension) and less quad (knee extension)
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Re: Standing Broad Jump
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2010, 08:07:35 am »
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I know 9 feet is nothing special, wasn't trying to say it is. Just pointing out that adarq, who can dunk and could dunk well at one point has a worse broad jump than me, who can't. Also, I wouldn't say a standing broad jump is much like the track event. Broad jump is straight power, no reactivity. Long jump is all reactivity -- you ever seen a world-class long jumper try to fly off two feet at the end of the approach?

It's an okay tool for measuring lower body power, but I wouldn't say it's any better than regular old standing vert. Except easier to measure without equipment.
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Re: Standing Broad Jump
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2010, 05:09:40 pm »
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Quote from: LBSS on July 13, 2010, 08:07:35 am
I know 9 feet is nothing special, wasn't trying to say it is. Just pointing out that adarq, who can dunk and could dunk well at one point has a worse broad jump than me, who can't. Also, I wouldn't say a standing broad jump is much like the track event. Broad jump is straight power, no reactivity. Long jump is all reactivity -- you ever seen a world-class long jumper try to fly off two feet at the end of the approach?

It's an okay tool for measuring lower body power, but I wouldn't say it's any better than regular old standing vert. Except easier to measure without equipment.

agreed
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Re: Standing Broad Jump
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2010, 06:42:41 pm »
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Quote from: Natho on July 13, 2010, 03:48:06 am
my best broad jump (well only time i done it was last year) was 2.85 metres  ~112", I want to start recording it again and hit 3m......................THAT VID ANDREW POSTED UP WAS CRAZY!

nice 112" aint bad, get that 120+.

ya i love that vid :P

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The broad jump seems to use a fair amount more glute (hip extension) and less quad (knee extension)


yup, as you go from vertical to horizontal, contribution of hamstrings/glutes increases, quad contribution decreases.
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Re: Standing Broad Jump
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2010, 10:00:00 pm »
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Quote from: adarqui on July 13, 2010, 06:42:41 pm
Quote from: Natho on July 13, 2010, 03:48:06 am
my best broad jump (well only time i done it was last year) was 2.85 metres  ~112", I want to start recording it again and hit 3m......................THAT VID ANDREW POSTED UP WAS CRAZY!

nice 112" aint bad, get that 120+.

ya i love that vid :P

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The broad jump seems to use a fair amount more glute (hip extension) and less quad (knee extension)


yup, as you go from vertical to horizontal, contribution of hamstrings/glutes increases, quad contribution decreases.

so if you have a big vert and not a big broad jump then you know your quads are the strong suit..am i right?

so Adarqui that means you might be have strong quads and not as strong glutes
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Re: Standing Broad Jump
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2010, 10:06:47 pm »
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Quote from: BMully on July 13, 2010, 10:00:00 pm
Quote from: adarqui on July 13, 2010, 06:42:41 pm
Quote from: Natho on July 13, 2010, 03:48:06 am
my best broad jump (well only time i done it was last year) was 2.85 metres  ~112", I want to start recording it again and hit 3m......................THAT VID ANDREW POSTED UP WAS CRAZY!

nice 112" aint bad, get that 120+.

ya i love that vid :P

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The broad jump seems to use a fair amount more glute (hip extension) and less quad (knee extension)


yup, as you go from vertical to horizontal, contribution of hamstrings/glutes increases, quad contribution decreases.

so if you have a big vert and not a big broad jump then you know your quads are the strong suit..am i right?

so Adarqui that means you might be have strong quads and not as strong glutes

It could also be that one whose vertical is better than their broad jump has merely practice the vertical jump more. Broad jumps require a lot of technique.
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