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Quote from: BMully on July 13, 2010, 10:00:00 pm

Quote from: adarqui on July 13, 2010, 06:42:41 pm

Quote from: Natho on July 13, 2010, 03:48:06 am

my best broad jump (well only time i done it was last year) was 2.85 metres  ~112", I want to start recording it again and hit 3m......................THAT VID ANDREW POSTED UP WAS CRAZY!

nice 112" aint bad, get that 120+.

ya i love that vid

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The broad jump seems to use a fair amount more glute (hip extension) and less quad (knee extension)

yup, as you go from vertical to horizontal, contribution of hamstrings/glutes increases, quad contribution decreases.

so if you have a big vert and not a big broad jump then you know your quads are the strong suit..am i right?

so Adarqui that means you might be have strong quads and not as strong glutes

It could also be that one whose vertical is better than their broad jump has merely practice the vertical jump more. Broad jumps require a lot of technique.

yea built up nerve connections from repition right?

but i am still wondering how that 1 guy beat Adarqui, just does'nt make sense 2 me

Quote from: adarqui on July 13, 2010, 06:42:41 pm

Quote from: Natho on July 13, 2010, 03:48:06 am

my best broad jump (well only time i done it was last year) was 2.85 metres  ~112", I want to start recording it again and hit 3m......................THAT VID ANDREW POSTED UP WAS CRAZY!

nice 112" aint bad, get that 120+.

ya i love that vid

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The broad jump seems to use a fair amount more glute (hip extension) and less quad (knee extension)

yup, as you go from vertical to horizontal, contribution of hamstrings/glutes increases, quad contribution decreases.

so if you have a big vert and not a big broad jump then you know your quads are the strong suit..am i right?

well, if you practice both skills often enough, and have proficiency in each, then yes that would be an indication of a better vert than broad jump.

broad jump is highly correlated with sprint speed, that's where it comes most in handy.. low broadjump? more often than not, low speed.

so Adarqui that means you might be have strong quads and not as strong glutes

well, my glutes are actually strong, it's my hamstrings that are weak as kittens... your theory would have merit if it weren't for my HORRIBLE svj.. my standing vertical jump is probably worse relatively than my broad jump.. but really that comes down to my being "reactive my whole life".. i never just generate force as fast as possible from "nothing".. i would always precede it with a run up, drop step, or some kind of movement to get my those muscle groups turned on.. i lack explosive strength without significant pre-loading (impact etc)

but yes my quads are definitely my strongest "asset" in terms of power.. calfs would be strong on the reactive strength side..

in order, my strong points would be:
- quads
- calfs
- glutes
- hamstrings

good observation though.

peace man

sprint speed you say? do you mean outa the blocks or top speed and acceleration? because the only thing i can find that it would help is outa the blocks...i thought top speed was more reactive and acceleration was a mix of both

correct me if i am wrong, just taking guess here

both top speed sprinting and acceleration out of the blocks correlate to broad jump.. regardless of the nature of broad jumping, it still requires powerful hamstrings/glutes, which is what is needed for any type of sprinting, regardless of accel/top speed.

think of wide receivers/defensive backs in the NFL.. look at their top speed, 40 yard dash, and broad jump.. so regardless of a movement being reactive or strength dominant, the muscle groups being used in each correlate highly with each other.

peace man

Hey folks, broad jumped 9'7 today in warm-ups. Form felt strange, but the width was not too bad even though I had hoped to hit 9'10 at least. Will test another time when I am fresh.

We need more stats here!!!

yea more stats would be cool

my broad jump is < 100" if i don't train it.. it can get to around 104" when I start training it.

pretty bad yup.

maybe you should train it

but are there any correlation between broad jump and long jump?

Quote from: BMully on July 25, 2010, 06:18:02 pm

Quote from: adarqui on July 25, 2010, 06:17:03 pm

my broad jump is < 100" if i don't train it.. it can get to around 104" when I start training it.

pretty bad yup.

maybe you should train it

but are there any correlation between broad jump and long jump?

broad jump is too hard on my knees, for me to train it all the time.. if i do say 3-4 x 5 and land deep, I don't like the aches I get.. i just have to get more powerful in the glutes/hams and just let that strength transfer over without training it..

I prefer double leg bounds for distance, it adds that reactive component which I love so much

well, long jump is so reactive that I see the correlation being low... I could definitely see a bunch of those top long jumpers having pretty shitty broad jumps when compared to say, and NFL db.

so just like standing jump and running vertical jump....i think people like in TFB have insane running but could have crappy standing right??

 Actually on the standing broad jump test I have had several long/triple jumpers do really well, mainly due to the fact that they are so much better at landing mechanics and stay in the air longer than the football/basketball athletes.  (eg hitch kick mechanics etc.) But yea, the actual power production is not as high, they are just better at the test, just like the football guys I have who have mastered the 40yd dash techniques and beat some of the sprinters at the 40, when in reality the sprinters are usually faster (even at the 40) they just arent as good at the skills of the test yet.  After mastering the start and other 40yd specific techniques, they usually dominate the football guys.

Actually on the standing broad jump test I have had several long/triple jumpers do really well, mainly due to the fact that they are so much better at landing mechanics and stay in the air longer than the football/basketball athletes.  (eg hitch kick mechanics etc.) But yea, the actual power production is not as high, they are just better at the test, just like the football guys I have who have mastered the 40yd dash techniques and beat some of the sprinters at the 40, when in reality the sprinters are usually faster (even at the 40) they just arent as good at the skills of the test yet.  After mastering the start and other 40yd specific techniques, they usually dominate the football guys.

as sim would say...beginner gains