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resistance bands and chains
« on: September 24, 2012, 05:03:53 am »
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There's a guy at the gym that is urging me to get resistance bands and chains.  Says it will help me get a lot more stronger and explosive.  I told him that i'm just going to use free weights until i get real strong 2x bw and then do plyos and explosive work outs.  He just keeps saying "get the bands man" "get them bands man"

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Re: resistance bands and chains
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2012, 05:21:23 am »
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Get real strong 2x bw. The last thing you want to do right now is getting caught into the gimmickering and losing valuable time chasing ghosts.
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Re: resistance bands and chains
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2012, 12:05:43 pm »
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There's a guy at the gym that is urging me to get resistance bands and chains.  Says it will help me get a lot more stronger and explosive.  I told him that i'm just going to use free weights until i get real strong 2x bw and then do plyos and explosive work outs.  He just keeps saying "get the bands man" "get them bands man"

thoughts?

normal strenf first, advanced methods later.

bands/chains can be very effective when used by advanced athletes.. but when you're at this point, you're already well past the 'constantly getting stronger' stage.

bands are VERY intense (more so than chains), when attached to the bar for squatting/deadlifts/bench etc.. DEFINITELY not advised until you've 'max out your novice gains', which is basically 1 year of consistent, intense, & dedicated training.. many coaches would probably say 1 year would even be too soon, but im just giving you an idea.... chains would be advised before bands imo.. bands accelerate faster than gravity, that's why it can create massive DOMS & that's why they are an advanced tool.

so ya i guess chains would be more of an intermediate tool, bands definitely would be advanced.


master the basics first.. any time your brain thinks about 'fun cool training', realize it's trying to trick you into 'taking the easy way out'.

get that squat up first & get in insane shape.

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Re: resistance bands and chains
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2012, 12:10:40 pm »
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I agree with the others but the only thing I would add is banded snatches swings (kb or db or whatever) are an awesome violent hip hinge ex. If you got good form with PCs or other olympic lifts or have someone teaching you the classical lifts, then you could stick with the barbell lifts. But for everyone else  banded swings are an easy and accessible way to train explosive hip hinge. There are others exercises too for that purpose too like over the head heavy med ball throws.

edit. I dunno why I wrote snatches instead of swings, silly me.
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Re: resistance bands and chains
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2012, 12:29:41 pm »
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on the other hand, bands are great for mobility exercises and stretching -- i recently started using one to warm up my shoulders and it's made a big difference in my comfort during warm up sets on the squat. previously i used my warm up sets to get my shoulders comfortable under the bar (tightness in posterior delts) but since i started using bands i've been discomfort-free from the first warm-up set.

also ab pull-downs, which i love.

but that's not the same thing as adding them to a bench press.
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Re: resistance bands and chains
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2012, 12:38:23 pm »
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ya btw just to clarify i was speaking entirely of bands added to barbell lifts. banded {bench, deadlift, squat} etc.

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Re: resistance bands and chains
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2012, 12:49:43 pm »
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There's a guy at the gym that is urging me to get resistance bands and chains.  Says it will help me get a lot more stronger and explosive.  I told him that i'm just going to use free weights until i get real strong 2x bw and then do plyos and explosive work outs.  He just keeps saying "get the bands man" "get them bands man"

thoughts?

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