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Re: $ick3nin.v3nd3tta what are YOUR stats and where do YOU compete
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2011, 07:24:55 pm »
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brb sprinting bilaterally.

That's why for me - jumping off two has never been natural. When you walk/run you don't bounce on two feet. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "step" on one leg to me. And we're built to move unilaterally.

That's why for me- jumping off one leg has never been natural. When you jump/squat you don't bounce on one foot. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "jump squat" on two feet to me. And we're built to jump bilaterally.




(I actually jump off 1 foot as well, but jumping off 2 never felt natural to you because you are uncoordinated, not because it's a weird movement).

I jump off both 1 and 2 feet pretty darn good. Both feel completely natural. Maybe I'm just uber-coordinated.

that isn't natural blu, we are unilateral creatures blu.

After my 3rd knee surgery on my left knee I had to reduce the amount I jumped off one footed. It was only natural for me to adapt and become a better 2 footed jumper. So the first 16 years of my life, off 1 foot, the next 5 or so off two foot. The last 3 or so I've done both pretty darn well. They both feel completely natural in different situations that they are required for. Just sayin'.
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Re: $ick3nin.v3nd3tta what are YOUR stats and where do YOU compete
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2011, 08:01:17 pm »
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brb sprinting bilaterally.

That's why for me - jumping off two has never been natural. When you walk/run you don't bounce on two feet. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "step" on one leg to me. And we're built to move unilaterally.

That's why for me- jumping off one leg has never been natural. When you jump/squat you don't bounce on one foot. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "jump squat" on two feet to me. And we're built to jump bilaterally.




(I actually jump off 1 foot as well, but jumping off 2 never felt natural to you because you are uncoordinated, not because it's a weird movement).

I jump off both 1 and 2 feet pretty darn good. Both feel completely natural. Maybe I'm just uber-coordinated.

that isn't natural blu, we are unilateral creatures blu.

Well duh, finally. Thank you.
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Re: $ick3nin.v3nd3tta what are YOUR stats and where do YOU compete
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2011, 08:05:02 pm »
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brb sprinting bilaterally.

That's why for me - jumping off two has never been natural. When you walk/run you don't bounce on two feet. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "step" on one leg to me. And we're built to move unilaterally.

That's why for me- jumping off one leg has never been natural. When you jump/squat you don't bounce on one foot. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "jump squat" on two feet to me. And we're built to jump bilaterally.




(I actually jump off 1 foot as well, but jumping off 2 never felt natural to you because you are uncoordinated, not because it's a weird movement).

I jump off both 1 and 2 feet pretty darn good. Both feel completely natural. Maybe I'm just uber-coordinated.

that isn't natural blu, we are unilateral creatures blu.

After my 3rd knee surgery on my left knee I had to reduce the amount I jumped off one footed. It was only natural for me to adapt and become a better 2 footed jumper. So the first 16 years of my life, off 1 foot, the next 5 or so off two foot. The last 3 or so I've done both pretty darn well. They both feel completely natural in different situations that they are required for. Just sayin'.

ya i was kidding mang.. hah

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Re: $ick3nin.v3nd3tta what are YOUR stats and where do YOU compete
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2011, 08:10:19 pm »
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brb sprinting bilaterally.

That's why for me - jumping off two has never been natural. When you walk/run you don't bounce on two feet. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "step" on one leg to me. And we're built to move unilaterally.

That's why for me- jumping off one leg has never been natural. When you jump/squat you don't bounce on one foot. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "jump squat" on two feet to me. And we're built to jump bilaterally.




(I actually jump off 1 foot as well, but jumping off 2 never felt natural to you because you are uncoordinated, not because it's a weird movement).

I jump off both 1 and 2 feet pretty darn good. Both feel completely natural. Maybe I'm just uber-coordinated.

that isn't natural blu, we are unilateral creatures blu.

After my 3rd knee surgery on my left knee I had to reduce the amount I jumped off one footed. It was only natural for me to adapt and become a better 2 footed jumper. So the first 16 years of my life, off 1 foot, the next 5 or so off two foot. The last 3 or so I've done both pretty darn well. They both feel completely natural in different situations that they are required for. Just sayin'.

ya i was kidding mang.. hah

Gah, there's no telling anymore. Someone really needs to create a sarcasm font.
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Re: $ick3nin.v3nd3tta what are YOUR stats and where do YOU compete
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2011, 08:18:45 pm »
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brb sprinting bilaterally.

That's why for me - jumping off two has never been natural. When you walk/run you don't bounce on two feet. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "step" on one leg to me. And we're built to move unilaterally.

That's why for me- jumping off one leg has never been natural. When you jump/squat you don't bounce on one foot. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "jump squat" on two feet to me. And we're built to jump bilaterally.




(I actually jump off 1 foot as well, but jumping off 2 never felt natural to you because you are uncoordinated, not because it's a weird movement).

I jump off both 1 and 2 feet pretty darn good. Both feel completely natural. Maybe I'm just uber-coordinated.

that isn't natural blu, we are unilateral creatures blu.

After my 3rd knee surgery on my left knee I had to reduce the amount I jumped off one footed. It was only natural for me to adapt and become a better 2 footed jumper. So the first 16 years of my life, off 1 foot, the next 5 or so off two foot. The last 3 or so I've done both pretty darn well. They both feel completely natural in different situations that they are required for. Just sayin'.

ya i was kidding mang.. hah

Gah, there's no telling anymore. Someone really needs to create a sarcasm font.

good idea blu

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Re: $ick3nin.v3nd3tta what are YOUR stats and where do YOU compete
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2011, 08:34:52 pm »
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After watching the Asafa and cheetah videos, I think what SV is getting at(and I may be entirely wrong), is having your lower back/sacrum/pelvis area round slightly in order to increase stride length.

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Re: $ick3nin.v3nd3tta what are YOUR stats and where do YOU compete
« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2011, 12:59:32 am »
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You guys failed to understand what I was getting at.

Humans have the ability to decompress there spines too.

What happens during decompression?.

Go back to Reply #18.

where's the "spinal decompression", i can't find it.

super slow motion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf12x5WSLN8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EwlymfYS2I&feature=fvst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhcGCGyqBVc

etc

^Perhaps MattyG, hold on one sec...

Go back to the first link adarq posted. Watch ASAFA: There is CLEARLY a head bobbing motion going on. In asafa it is the most pronounced, but if you look at Bolt you will see it during his start, and in the second part of the video/race.

I've done this myself, neck flexion in midair, then neck swings up/back a bit during leg extension and ground contact. MY HYPOTHESIS IS THAT YOU CAN ONLY DO THIS HEAD BOBBING AT SLOW STRIDES IN HUMANS. Both Asafa and Bolt have a slow stride rate. If you look at Tyson yo don't see any of this head bobbing.

My stride rate is fast, and I don't head bob. But when I'm just striding for practice, I can do this head bobbing thing. It doesn't make me faster though, just would give me neck cramps if I tried. maybe I should do plyometrics with my neck. I'm being serious actually because I think the neck bobbing does have an impact in slower stride rates. It's just awkward and probably bad for your brain to bob your head when you're striding as fast as Tyson.

Spinal decompression probably happens anyway without the head bobbing, but I don't understand how it could be the main reason why Bolt is the fastest human being, since asafa is clearly running this way as well and Tyson usually beats him. Well maybe Tyson's spine compresses too.

SO back to MattyG, this rounding thing you're seeing, is the neck flexion, conciding with knee extension in mid-air to prepare for powerful ground contact.

Speaking of POWER, this spinal decompression thing may be more relevant to more powerful activities, such as jumping.

Watch Aarik Wilson TJing, he has a mad head bob during his run, which is probably a lot slower than any elite sprinter, strides are slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR6F2sgfLUc&feature=relmfu


Here is Carl Lewis, check out the extra head bobbing in the penultimate step
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5Sg_kACPRM

Again from personal experience, just today even, my head bobs were mad powerful during a heavy squat jump, deep with just 135 lbs. To lift it faster I had to flex at the neck (head bringing down closer to chest), then pop up as the bar goes up.

Ca'nt find any good VJ vids, but how many of you look down slightly before jumping? In 1 footed Vj looking down in the penultimate helps me the most. If I look up the whole time that would not work, with 1 or two.

I hope this fosters some discussion, this should not be ignored
"Performance during stretch-shortening cycle exercise is influenced by the visco-elastic properties of the muscle-tendon units. During stretching of an activated muscle, mechanical energy is absorbed in the tendon structures (tendon and aponeurosis) and this energy can subsequently be re-utilized if shortening of the muscle immediately follows the stretching. According to Biscotti (2000), 72% of the elastic energy restitution action comes from tendons, 28% - from contractile elements of muscles.

http://www.verkhoshansky.com/Portals/0/Presentations/Shock%20Method%20Plyometrics.pdf