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Re: NBA Players Training
« Reply #45 on: July 26, 2011, 05:31:36 pm »
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why are hip flexors important for basketball performance?

They will increase your stride rate/turnover/first step explosion. It's the hip flexors that connect your legs to your body (the core) which is where all the power stems from.

not much hip flexion in a first step... not much hip flexion in really quick short distance movements..

not much stride frequency going on in short distance movements....

stride frequency is less in accel than in max V, not much max V going on in basketball...

i just dont see how da hip flexors create so much splosion?



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Think of the cycling action. Your legs spinning, with every backward rep your increasing that burn/power/strength in the hip flexors.

all the power comes from the core? news to me..

explain how all of the power comes from the core? is there some kind of magic going on that i don't know about? holdup, must be that boing vert secret society shit.

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Re: NBA Players Training
« Reply #46 on: July 26, 2011, 05:34:06 pm »
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would increasing ones squat 100 lb yield to any improvements in athleticism?


If he put 100lbs on his squat I still couldn't see realistically a big increase in there performances.

if no, why not?



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Re: NBA Players Training
« Reply #47 on: July 26, 2011, 05:36:19 pm »
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very powerful/fast hip flexion is going to influence max velocity of a sprint, not movements in basketball.

ok you mentioned their are a zillion things you can do, name some more?

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Never felt any soreness in my hip flexors from squatting


rect fem/vl also act as hip flexors, squat works them.. hip flexion isn't restricted to illiopsoas..

i was wondering if you would catch my "squat doesn't work hip flexors" a few posts back.. but you didn't.

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Re: NBA Players Training
« Reply #48 on: July 26, 2011, 05:36:51 pm »
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would increasing ones squat 100 lb yield to any improvements in athleticism?


If he put 100lbs on his squat I still couldn't see realistically a big increase in there performances.

if no, why not?



if no, why not?



if no, why not?

















if no, why not?



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Re: NBA Players Training
« Reply #49 on: July 26, 2011, 05:42:46 pm »
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if no, why not?

It's like saying what would 100lbs+ do for running performance, sprint performance, soccer performance etc...

Very little.

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Re: NBA Players Training
« Reply #50 on: July 26, 2011, 05:45:09 pm »
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if no, why not?

It's like saying what would 100lbs+ do for running performance, sprint performance, soccer performance etc...

Very little.
WHY WOULD IT BE VERY LITTLE?
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Re: NBA Players Training
« Reply #51 on: July 26, 2011, 05:51:09 pm »
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WHY WOULD IT BE VERY LITTLE?

Because there is so much more to increasing overall athletic performance.

Squatting alone won't make you elite.

yes, but it is one of the prime factors in increasing amount of force, which is equal to more force on the ground, which is equal to FASTER AND MORE EXPLOSIVE ATHLETES.



in b4 'but they can run and dunk'
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Re: NBA Players Training
« Reply #52 on: July 26, 2011, 05:53:26 pm »
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i was wondering if you would catch my "squat doesn't work hip flexors" a few posts back.. but you didn't.

Too many posts man, lol.

i thought you were a pro, i am disappoint.




not much hip flexion in a first step... not much hip flexion in really quick short distance movements..

Hip flexors fire the knees.

how do they fire the knees?


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Do a pedal stroke. Your on the back portion. Your knees move forwards.

what.

do a sprint, knee moves forward also while in recovery phase, but it's not actively extending.



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all the power comes from the core? news to me..

explain how all of the power comes from the core? is there some kind of magic going on that i don't know about? holdup, must be that boing vert secret society shit.


Yup, core muscles fire before extremities.

Weak at the core, huge power leaks.
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the "core" is just a copout for not knowing how to train people.. the core is highly overrated in jumping.. people's cores are sufficiently strong enough to handle the force in the plant, unless you see round back/caving going on, the person is fine, and it will have no bearing on "power leaks".

"oh bro u got a power leak" -> translation -> "oh bro i dno what im talking about so i just talk out of my ass when in reality you have to get a fuckload stronger in your legs/glutes/calves"

if you can't squat 2.5xBW+ on legit half or deep, the power leak is that you have weak legs, has nothing to do with core unless you're caving over in your squat, which you shouldn't be if you're progressing your lift over time, core will be sufficiently strong.





bbl, doing secret core/stretching/medball boingvert secret society exercises, aka dog park.

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Re: NBA Players Training
« Reply #53 on: July 26, 2011, 05:54:15 pm »
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if no, why not?

It's like saying what would 100lbs+ do for running performance, sprint performance, soccer performance etc...

Very little.

it would do alot actually...

bbl

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Re: NBA Players Training
« Reply #54 on: July 26, 2011, 05:54:31 pm »
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WHY WOULD IT BE VERY LITTLE?

Because there is so much more to increasing overall athletic performance.

Squatting alone won't make you elite.

Good God.  

I would even argue, that squatting alone CAN significantly improve some NBA athletes.  A lot of NBA players get a lot of basketball specific plyometric work and jumping work from there schedule.  So being able to apply more force into those movements they repeat over and over on a daily basis will have them being more explosive in all of them.  And that more force to apply will come from that 100lb+ squat.

Unfortunately, I have some work to do for class tomorrow, so I cannot post anymore in hopes of getting more hilarious replies from you.
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Re: NBA Players Training
« Reply #55 on: July 26, 2011, 05:55:30 pm »
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btw before i go, sickenin, you ever do an intense shakewieght phase? i'm in one right now and it's really mind blowing how effective it is, i'm astonished, i thought it would be crap..

anyway, hit me up if you want the details to my shakeweight intensification block im doing right now.

and lmfao don't knock it until you try it.

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Re: NBA Players Training
« Reply #56 on: July 26, 2011, 06:20:48 pm »
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You guys are overrating squatting.

It ain't all that.

Squatting 2.5BW doesn't make you elite.

it is a key factor to producing the force output required to become elite.
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Re: NBA Players Training
« Reply #57 on: July 26, 2011, 06:33:45 pm »
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it is a key factor to producing the force output required to become elite.

Yeah but there's so much more to becoming a complete player/athlete than squatting.

Mark my words, my man adarqui won't reach his goal of 47' through squatting alone. He will just plateau out at 40'.

He's need to do other things man, work on different area's then his gains will increase much quicker.




Nobody said squatting ALONE. 

If Adarqui plateau's at 40 feet, I'd say that's impressive. 

Regardless, squatting is not ALL he does bro.
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Re: NBA Players Training
« Reply #58 on: July 26, 2011, 06:45:49 pm »
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Take the strongest guy in the NBA.

Is he better than Kobe?.

I would argue that Joey Graham is at least as good as Kobe.

All jokes aside, you're response was simply amazing.
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Re: NBA Players Training
« Reply #59 on: July 26, 2011, 06:54:14 pm »
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