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Latest Kelly Baggett's article including VJB 2.0 announcement!!!
« on: September 23, 2010, 04:11:55 am »
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http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/trainingweaknesses.html

Awesome , one of his best articles in my humble opinion.
It also includes a god damn good template for intermediate trainees.

And finally 2 interesting pieces in that article:

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I go into great detail on this topic in the upcoming VJB 2.0, but...

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I plan to expand on this a GREAT deal in my upcoming Vertical Jump Bible 2.0 In the meantime however...

WTF , Vertical Jump Bible 2.0 !!!!!

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Quote from: adarqui on May 17, 2021, 04:57:01 pm
it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Latest Kelly Baggett's article including VJB 2.0 announcement!!!
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2010, 05:20:44 am »
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I'd buy Kelly's programs when he does them alone. When he "affiliates" with people like Maroko I won't even look (OK, I'll look but I won't buy).
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Re: Latest Kelly Baggett's article including VJB 2.0 announcement!!!
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2010, 05:42:56 am »
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gonna read it tomorrow, sounds interesting!@$
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Re: Latest Kelly Baggett's article including VJB 2.0 announcement!!!
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2010, 05:46:24 am »
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Yeah it is interesting.
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Re: Latest Kelly Baggett's article including VJB 2.0 announcement!!!
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2010, 09:29:44 am »
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Quote from: Raptor on September 23, 2010, 05:20:44 am
I'd buy Kelly's programs when he does them alone. When he "affiliates" with people like Maroko I won't even look (OK, I'll look but I won't buy).

Agree whole heartedly Raptor
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Re: Latest Kelly Baggett's article including VJB 2.0 announcement!!!
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2010, 11:00:47 am »
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God damn it, now this article has me second-guessing my training plan again. I THINK TOO GOD DAMN MUCH ALREADY, FOR FUCK'S SAKE!

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Re: Latest Kelly Baggett's article including VJB 2.0 announcement!!!
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2010, 11:21:50 am »
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Quote from: LBSS on September 23, 2010, 11:00:47 am
God damn it, now this article has me second-guessing my training plan again. I THINK TOO GOD DAMN MUCH ALREADY, FOR FUCK'S SAKE!


LOL , i hear you.
Well , the ratio you designed for yourself is definately better.
Kelly gave out a long-term schedule transitioning in 5 phases , from GPP to peak. It is a god damn good program , but it is for everyone. Yours is 100% customised to your needs, starting from neutral and not GPP or hypertrophy etc.
Having said that , i was also very much tempted reading that template.
But my mind is already made up , ill complete my ratio , hopefully achieve significant gains in strength and work capacity and then i will do the high-freq template he gave in his previous article...
Hopefully he won't release VJB 2.0 by then otherwise our minds will toast!  :P
« Last Edit: September 23, 2010, 11:25:02 am by vag »
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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Latest Kelly Baggett's article including VJB 2.0 announcement!!!
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2010, 12:36:39 pm »
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How is your strength coming along vag?
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Re: Latest Kelly Baggett's article including VJB 2.0 announcement!!!
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2010, 02:04:21 pm »
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Quote from: Raptor on September 23, 2010, 12:36:39 pm
How is your strength coming along vag?

It started much worse than i thought for only 3 weeks of detraining but its going up fast and linear so far.
In 4x6 squat heaviest set is currently 231 , PR is 254
In MSEM squating PR is 3x297 , i hit 2x264.
And in BSS i already caught my PR hiting 8x198 last time.
Im treating my current phase as GPP/hypertrophy so i dont freak out about PRs etc , that's for later.
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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Latest Kelly Baggett's article including VJB 2.0 announcement!!!
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2010, 02:53:03 pm »
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Damn, 8x90 kg in the BSS? Much further in front of me... and I'm a one-leg jumper.
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All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Latest Kelly Baggett's article including VJB 2.0 announcement!!!
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2010, 07:39:52 pm »
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Sometimes I don't feel like buying Kelly Baggett's programs because everything he puts in his books are in his articles.
Solid info, it makes me feel skeptical if I'm ever going to get insane hops and speed. This basically seems like an extended version of what I read about in his No-Bull Speed Manual. 

i'm definitely that guy who has more strength than he has speed, it sucks, I wish I was the opposite :-[
plyos really do give you an insane boost in the beginning for people who are stronger than fast or at least for me.
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Re: Latest Kelly Baggett's article including VJB 2.0 announcement!!!
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2010, 10:47:47 pm »
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I like the 4 block basic routine, except it doesnt include any vertical jumps/running vertical jumps or sprints, which IMO are critical especially if your goal is VJ.

Wonder how hed tailor it to fit VJ?
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Re: Latest Kelly Baggett's article including VJB 2.0 announcement!!!
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2010, 11:30:07 pm »
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Didn't everyone know this stuff already  :P


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Re: Latest Kelly Baggett's article including VJB 2.0 announcement!!!
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2010, 09:25:08 am »
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JCsBck, two things.

First: The fundamental principles, sure, but Kelly does keep coming up with new and ever-clearer ways of describing those principles and finding nuance in them. But yeah, you're right, haha.

Second: Can you change your user title to "Adarq.org's Resident Guido"? For some reason that's so much funnier. To me, at least. Or maybe I'm just weird.
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Re: Latest Kelly Baggett's article including VJB 2.0 announcement!!!
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2010, 01:29:44 pm »
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Sometimes I don't feel like buying Kelly Baggett's programs because everything he puts in his books are in his articles.
Solid info, it makes me feel skeptical if I'm ever going to get insane hops and speed. This basically seems like an extended version of what I read about in his No-Bull Speed Manual.
 

It is similar to a section in the No Bull Speed Development Manual, but that was written 4 years ago. :) Most of the specific info. in my books is not in my articles. A lot of the priciples are, but there are only so many of those.

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Well , the ratio you designed for yourself is definately better.
Kelly gave out a long-term schedule transitioning in 5 phases , from GPP to peak. It is a god damn good program , but it is for everyone. Yours is 100% customised to your needs, starting from neutral and not GPP or hypertrophy etc.
Having said that , i was also very much tempted reading that template.
But my mind is already made up , ill complete my ratio , hopefully achieve significant gains in strength and work capacity and then i will do the high-freq template he gave in his previous article...

Man I'd say stick with what you're doing. I really like what you do. If you were to consult me likely the only thing I might suggest thinking about from a VJ perspective is how much you really benefit from a distinct hypertrophy phase.  I'm not sure if it's the best thing in the world for you given your current size and qualities.



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