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Gary

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Re: Jumping And Smolov
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2011, 08:48:16 pm »
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Is it Smolov JR the "Smolov program - Base mesocycle"  in here http://joeskopec.com/smolov.html ?

Anyway, did you put in your real 1RM with the program or a little less than your true 1RM? For example, if I'm to use it, I think I'll insert a lower 1RM number than my real 1RM (say - 135 instead of 140-145).

I used a tested 1RM, 2 days prior to starting the program.

Smolov JR = Smolov Base Mesocyle with a slightly different rep scheme to make it slightly easier.

Smolov Sr.
4s x 9r/s = 36 reps
5s x 7r/s = 35 reps
7s x 5r/s = 35 reps
10s x 3r/s = 30 reps

Smolov Jr.
6s x 6r/s = 36 reps
7s x 5r/s = 35 reps
8s x 4r/s = 32 reps
10s x 3r/s =30 reps

Jr. doesn't take you into as high a rep range, but gets you to the same or very close to the same volume. I found Jr does not work nearly as well for squats, but works great for bench. 9-rep and 7-rep sets are great for legs, not so much for upper body. I gained twice with Sr. for squats and failed to gain with Jr. for squats, even though I made it through the program. But Jr. worked twice for bench and failed to get through Sr. for bench.
Height: 5'9.5"
Wingspan: 6'4"
Standing Reach Barefoot: 7'10"
Weight: 175 lbs
Standing Vertical Jump: 29"
Running Vertical Jump Bilateral: 30.5"
Running Vertical Jump, Unilateral: 25"
Standing Broad Jump: 9'3"
Beltless High Bar Squat: 365
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Low Bar Squat w/ Belt (in USAPL raw): 418
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Re: Jumping And Smolov
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2011, 10:14:07 pm »
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same, all of my best jumping has come during/after concentrated loading blocks... linear periodization is bad bad bad, i wrote some simple blog article for people, "the ratio method", which is supposed to help get people out of that mindset, introduces more of a concurrent system in simpler terms.

concentrate/high frequency blocks are the best ways to put on serious strength imo.. brozknowz is a great example of it... this forum has plenty of success stories from high frequency training, including myself/arowe/lance/dreyth/tychver/damienz etc list goes on.

High frequency training is awesome. There's a couple of really successful clubs produced a lot of good junior weightlifters in NZ based on russian/german programming and high frequency. They have the kids doing double sessions 3-4 days a week (5-6 days in total) in the school holidays after a few months training.


great, don't be one of those people to take out "impact work".. you need impacts in order to be good at, well, impacts... just keep them mostly low intensity for now, ie light rebounding exercises like jump rope, lateral barrier jumps (MR), MR halftucks, and definitely sprints... some good unilateral rebounding work comes from "light single leg sprints", any time you go real vertical, ie uni-tucks, you're going to experience alot of force so, just be careful to do it when you feel like you're firing properly, you don't want any "shutdown" occurring while trying to stabilize unilaterally, you can get away with it with bilateral rebounds though.

With Smolov, don't do any high intensity stuff beyond a a few decent SVJ/RVJ attempts on the off days. However, low impact explosive work in the warmup is absolutely essential if you're not just a lifter. Hell, for the powerlifters Feduleyev prescribed high catch powersnatches and low impact explosive work as warmup.


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Are there any other recommendations? Other drills that I could be doing now? Input on what should happen during the switching phase is also welcome.


Lots of submax jumping and explosive lifting. Once you've bounced back a bit get some more serious jump training in and move into shock training.

i like to split them into multiple sessions if im going to get actual jumping in, for example:

day 1: session 1: jumping, submax or max whatever.. quality session, not quantity
day 1: session 2: rebounding/light sprint warmup etc, low level reactive work is done here, quantity and to break that sweat........ then lifting

Yah it's often split like that in weightlifting too. Or a lighter session in the morning to loosen up slash prime for a later bigger session.


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so ya those exercises i mentioned before are good, just use alot of variety to keep yourself from feeling stale etc.. mix it up and have fun, but i'd always warmup with some impact work before the smolov sessions.. it loosens you up, reduces risk of injury, but also wakes you up better for a more productive smolov session.

Yup. I basically did random jumping drills, mostly RFI stuff, quick dynamic warmup, an oly lift up to a submax single, SMOLOV SETS, puke :D

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You need to eat something every like three hours or so when going balls out with a high frequency  and high volume lifting routine. PWO nutrition is more impotant. The window for rapid absorbtion after training is something like 30-60 minutes long. Take food or a shake with carbs in to the gym unless you're ABSOUTELY sure you're going to be able to eat when you get home. A lot of serious lifters end up snacking between exercises!

Gary

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Re: Jumping And Smolov
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2011, 01:43:11 pm »
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I've been alternating unilateral cone hops with unilateral tuck jumps to combine unilateral work with some reactive work in my warm ups. I also do bilateral tuck jumps every session.

I find that the day of triples makes me increasingly pumped as I go through the sets. I think that would be a good day to add some standing vertical jumps. Last time by the fifth set I felt like I could jump through the roof. I usually do unilateral leg curls after the squats, but the triples day comes right after the last squat day with no break. May be good to jump instead of doing leg curls again.
Height: 5'9.5"
Wingspan: 6'4"
Standing Reach Barefoot: 7'10"
Weight: 175 lbs
Standing Vertical Jump: 29"
Running Vertical Jump Bilateral: 30.5"
Running Vertical Jump, Unilateral: 25"
Standing Broad Jump: 9'3"
Beltless High Bar Squat: 365
Beltless Conventional Deadlift: 450
Low Bar Squat w/ Belt (in USAPL raw): 418
Sumo Deadlift w/ Belt (in USAPL raw): 506

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Re: Jumping And Smolov
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2011, 02:47:34 pm »
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About the post wo nutrition... it takes about an hour for a significant amount of whey protein (and even casein) to enter your bloodstream after ingesting it. Therefore, it would make sense to take it at the start of you workout, and then when your finished (presumably in about an hour), it begins recovering your muscles pretty much immediately.
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Re: Jumping And Smolov
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2011, 03:16:18 pm »
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Interesting, although I had protein powder coming through my esophagus while squatting, so...
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All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Jumping And Smolov
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2011, 11:17:16 pm »
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I actually will have a three-week block during which I'll be traveling immediately after the Base Phase Test Day. So my switching period will be three weeks instead of the prescribed two. I can easily bring along my power jumper on the road and concentrate on jumping and a few plyo drills while traveling. But three weeks is a bit of a long time between the base and intensive. So I'm guessing I should definitely find a place to squat when I can and get in at least one squat session per week.

During one of those weeks I'll be in Las Vegas on business. I hope to be able to hit up Average Broz for a session.
Height: 5'9.5"
Wingspan: 6'4"
Standing Reach Barefoot: 7'10"
Weight: 175 lbs
Standing Vertical Jump: 29"
Running Vertical Jump Bilateral: 30.5"
Running Vertical Jump, Unilateral: 25"
Standing Broad Jump: 9'3"
Beltless High Bar Squat: 365
Beltless Conventional Deadlift: 450
Low Bar Squat w/ Belt (in USAPL raw): 418
Sumo Deadlift w/ Belt (in USAPL raw): 506