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Overtraining?
« on: May 24, 2011, 02:39:46 pm »
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OK so right now I'm doing this:

EVERYDAY in the morning (Monday to Friday):

24 kg kettlebell swings: 3x10
24 kg kettlebell one-leg straight leg deadlifts: 2x5
Pistols: 5 (each leg)

THEN

Later in the day: 2 days of plyos and 2 days of strength

Monday: 3x30m sprints + metrics (bounds)
Tuesday: squat 4x4-6, straight leg deadlifts 2x8
Wednesday: REST (core at home)
Thursday: some kind of uphill sprint + uphill metrics
Friday: explosive squat 3x10s + stepups

Now the problem is - I suck at both squatting and plyos at this point. I'm just so "tired" and "weak". I mean, I'm struggling to squat with 100 kg when my 1RM one month ago was ~150 kg (in another gym, not in here where I seem to suck for some reason).

Maybe doing that stuff in the morning kills me? I doesn't make any sense for 3 sets of 10 swings to kill me as hard as they're supposedly doing right now. I mean really. I also seem to get tired after doing anything whatsoever.

The hamstrings fail and the knee collapses even WHILE WALKING after say 2 30m sprints and so on. I MEAN WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?

Should I continue with this and hopefully the body adapts (since because I was injured I haven't done anything and then maybe this is just a shock for a while for the body as it's adapting back to effort) and maybe the conditioning (and by conditioning I mean - not getting tired and out of breath after 1 30m sprint or a set of squats) will get better?
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Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Overtraining?
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2011, 03:27:23 pm »
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I think a little break, let's say 4 full days, could be what you really need to charge you batteries again and return more efficient than before. At least that worked for me. Don't know if the more experienced member will agree with this "absolute deloading" approach, but I think it could really works wonders if you just burned out, both physically and mentally.
You will not lose anything, you will get your energy back.

I'm a noob though, so don't listen to me LOL :P
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Re: Overtraining?
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2011, 04:19:20 pm »
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Nah I don't think so. I mean, I already "lost" one full month with no training whatsoever so... hopefully the body will adapt and it's just the stress/soreness that the body is not used to YET.

But that squat... how can it be such a big difference doesn't make any sense. Maybe different bars (these are kinda rusty so the rotating ends rotate less... maybe that's a factor). But the thing is - as soon as I get the bar on my back it feels like 2 times (literally) vs. the ones in the commercial gym.

There I could do 100x10 with no BIG problems, and here I struggle to get 5 reps. WTF?
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All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Overtraining?
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2011, 04:52:14 pm »
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Maybe you just started out with too much too soon after such a long break. Stop doing the morning workouts for now or just do them every other day (not on your squatting days) and after a few weeks when your numbers are going up again you can incorporate the morning workouts again.

Maybe do some other exercises for your morning workout. Swings, SLDL, Squats, SLDL, Sprints, Hillsprints: all hard on the hamstrings, so this might be your problem ;)
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Re: Overtraining?
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2011, 05:56:40 pm »
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Yeah I think that's a good point...

Even if I keep on doing all the stuff I'm currently doing, I should adapt eventually. We'll see how it goes...

My crow waking me up at 5:56 AM due to ... "singing" doesn't help either. I got out of bed at 11:00 but still... it's more of a muscular thing than CNS I think at this point.
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Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps
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