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Innovative Exercises Ideas for Speed
« on: October 25, 2012, 12:16:29 pm »
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Hi

I was wondering about the depth jump, you stand on a box, you come off and with less time spent on the ground you shoot up as high as you can, this will help develop leg stiffness and shock absorption or increase shock absorption from the shock the leg goes through sprint cycle or something link this.

How about 1 legged depth jumps or and i say OR

using the 1 legged depth jump but instead of jumping up, you land and as soon as you land push the ground behind you i.e. in a sprint when your lead leg lands under the hips and pushes back that's the part this would train?

would this work?
Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
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Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
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Re: Innovative Exercises Ideas for Speed
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2012, 01:02:11 pm »
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In general or for you personally?
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Re: Innovative Exercises Ideas for Speed
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2012, 01:52:47 pm »
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yes, that sounds like a great idea. you should probably add in 12-16 of those off an 18" box every time you work out.
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Re: Innovative Exercises Ideas for Speed
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2012, 03:03:58 pm »
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@raptor: I'm talking generally, i don't need any exercises of yet as i have a lot to do in the gym, in terms of how effective the exercise would be.

@LBSS: i'm not going to do the exercise, the question is will it work or is there other factors, which make it useless.

any one else know any new exercise methods that are not on the web, they made up or ideas.
Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
-------------------------------------------------------------
Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
------------------------------------------------------------------------

�Strength comes from the legs, Power comes from the torso and Speed comes from the arm.� � Al Vermeil
Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

My Progress Log
A Journey to Running fast and Jumping High
http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/my-journey-to-hypertrophy/

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Re: Innovative Exercises Ideas for Speed
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2012, 09:26:13 pm »
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Wow Ive never thought of that, and i've thought of some crazy plyos. I don't think the latter exercise you described would be very effective. The forces experienced during a maximal sprint would probably be greater. Also it would be nearly impossible and wasteful energetically to land in a sprint position, especially since you are going to be practising a start rather than a flying sprint, where you need to be a lot lower to the ground. Landing vertically on one leg just won't allow that.

Just stick to double legged depth jumps. I usually use a double depth jump, meaning I add in another jump after I land from the first depth jump immediately. so it's a depth jump + pogo jump. Also make sure you have a program design and aren't just doing this out of the blue.

You could try a horizontal single legged depth jump which will hit the hips more than the knees. It's basically a skip for height where the penultimate leg is the same leg you skip with. It's safe, and fun.
"Performance during stretch-shortening cycle exercise is influenced by the visco-elastic properties of the muscle-tendon units. During stretching of an activated muscle, mechanical energy is absorbed in the tendon structures (tendon and aponeurosis) and this energy can subsequently be re-utilized if shortening of the muscle immediately follows the stretching. According to Biscotti (2000), 72% of the elastic energy restitution action comes from tendons, 28% - from contractile elements of muscles.

http://www.verkhoshansky.com/Portals/0/Presentations/Shock%20Method%20Plyometrics.pdf

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Re: Innovative Exercises Ideas for Speed
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2012, 09:31:53 am »
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Wow Ive never thought of that, and i've thought of some crazy plyos. I don't think the latter exercise you described would be very effective. The forces experienced during a maximal sprint would probably be greater. Also it would be nearly impossible and wasteful energetically to land in a sprint position, especially since you are going to be practising a start rather than a flying sprint, where you need to be a lot lower to the ground. Landing vertically on one leg just won't allow that.

Just stick to double legged depth jumps. I usually use a double depth jump, meaning I add in another jump after I land from the first depth jump immediately. so it's a depth jump + pogo jump. Also make sure you have a program design and aren't just doing this out of the blue.

You could try a horizontal single legged depth jump which will hit the hips more than the knees. It's basically a skip for height where the penultimate leg is the same leg you skip with. It's safe, and fun.

So not a good exercise, the closest is the one legged depth jump as you describe basically a high knee ship. I'm not going to do this as i have to first tackle my squts before i can start any plyometrics, they give me shin pains.

thanks
Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
-------------------------------------------------------------
Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
------------------------------------------------------------------------

�Strength comes from the legs, Power comes from the torso and Speed comes from the arm.� � Al Vermeil
Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

My Progress Log
A Journey to Running fast and Jumping High
http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/my-journey-to-hypertrophy/

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Re: Innovative Exercises Ideas for Speed
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2012, 09:34:14 am »
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Push up sprints- Do 5 explosive push ups and launch

Donkey sprints- kick and launch

arrested on ground sprint- get up and launch

They are not that innovative exercises, they are more like a different style of reaction exercises from different positions.
Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
-------------------------------------------------------------
Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
------------------------------------------------------------------------

�Strength comes from the legs, Power comes from the torso and Speed comes from the arm.� � Al Vermeil
Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

My Progress Log
A Journey to Running fast and Jumping High
http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/my-journey-to-hypertrophy/

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Re: Innovative Exercises Ideas for Speed
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2012, 06:25:29 pm »
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because you asked:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9qNZPLkODc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9qNZPLkODc</a>
"Performance during stretch-shortening cycle exercise is influenced by the visco-elastic properties of the muscle-tendon units. During stretching of an activated muscle, mechanical energy is absorbed in the tendon structures (tendon and aponeurosis) and this energy can subsequently be re-utilized if shortening of the muscle immediately follows the stretching. According to Biscotti (2000), 72% of the elastic energy restitution action comes from tendons, 28% - from contractile elements of muscles.

http://www.verkhoshansky.com/Portals/0/Presentations/Shock%20Method%20Plyometrics.pdf

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Re: Innovative Exercises Ideas for Speed
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2012, 11:53:10 am »
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because you asked:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9qNZPLkODc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9qNZPLkODc</a>

I thought i asked for innovative exercises.
that's not innovative, that is just reactive type exercises to improve reaction time.

Let me think of one.

How about ... skipping for height or distance holding dumbell in each hand.
or high knee drill emphasizing on stride length holding dumbells.
Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
-------------------------------------------------------------
Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
------------------------------------------------------------------------

�Strength comes from the legs, Power comes from the torso and Speed comes from the arm.� � Al Vermeil
Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

My Progress Log
A Journey to Running fast and Jumping High
http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/my-journey-to-hypertrophy/

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Re: Innovative Exercises Ideas for Speed
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2012, 07:12:58 pm »
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Here is one i thought of when i was sitting on those desk chairs with the wheels.

Chair Drags
Sit on the chair with the wheels and stuff, lean forward and try and run forward dragging the chair forward as well also add hand movements as well with the runs. this will generate power in the paw back process of the sprint lol.

Chair Drags for distance
This same as before but try aim to cover as much distance with one push of your legs.

Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
-------------------------------------------------------------
Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
------------------------------------------------------------------------

�Strength comes from the legs, Power comes from the torso and Speed comes from the arm.� � Al Vermeil
Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

My Progress Log
A Journey to Running fast and Jumping High
http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/my-journey-to-hypertrophy/

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Re: Innovative Exercises Ideas for Speed
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2012, 11:30:58 pm »
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Here is one i thought of when i was sitting on those desk chairs with the wheels.

Chair Drags
Sit on the chair with the wheels and stuff, lean forward and try and run forward dragging the chair forward as well also add hand movements as well with the runs. this will generate power in the paw back process of the sprint lol.

Chair Drags for distance
This same as before but try aim to cover as much distance with one push of your legs.

 :trolldance:
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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