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Raptor can vouch for that. Let me tell you the story: It was Sunday, and my legs were very tired (DOMS) because of BSS, whenever I do BSS the soreness in my legs is huge and it stays like that for up to 5 days. It's a killer exercise for me... but enough about that, I went in "student park" with nightfly and raptor, nightfly jumped over the car and sheet, and i felt pretty tired but i did something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps1QROaii10. Anyway after some kind of dunk session I was more tired than before. But i went in "titan" park and just stayed there, after an hour of loitering, i started slowly making some layups and shot at a 9'9'' rim. Than I asked raptor for the no. 5 basketball and started dunking off 2 feet ( i'm jump considerably more off 1 foot but i was too tired to do that) raptor immediately noticed that i'm plating my legs different, even though i was still going slow and lazy towards the basket part because i was tired and part because that's how i roll. Than i got warmed up, i couldn't feel soreness anymore and i started going almost full speed and plating LR and dunking, i was jumping about 10 cm (4 inches) more than usual. There's an "anger" factor, as raptor calls it that I was using for the first time in my life. I can't use it as well of 1 foot because i can't slow myself down to jump and i run into the fence or some shit like that. Maybe once in my life I had dunked a regular size ball off 2 feet at a 10 foot rim. that happend 4-5 months ago, after that whenever I tried i couldn't not even with the small ball. After my short session on the lower rim in which i threw some tomahawks, 180, 360, all off 2 feet, i went to the 10 foot rim and could dunk easy because i was using that "anger" factor just going full speed and really planting my legs into the ground like i wanted to stomp something, i could dunk easily off 2 feet at a regular size rim. Next day I dunked off 2 feet with 2 hand with a regular size ball on a regular size rim, I wanted to do that from the first day since i started playing basketball, and i thought i was so far from achieving that, but i realized that my calm attitude in general hurt me when i was dunking, 2 legged jumpers you need do be angry, go max speed and plant hard, that shown amazing results for me. I don't know if this helps anyone, I surely hope it does. I just wanted to share with the forum

@Flip: Really awesome with the 4" PR, that's pretty crazy!

Flip is at a point now that he won't gain too much from improving his approach. He was far away from this point in the past but improved I'd say dramatically (this is not a big word by any means - it's real) in the last week or so. You really need to "power" yourself in a two-leg jump. Obviously, you need great movement efficiency and strength to prevent your knees from collapsing if you do it though.

I could try the same thing Flip did and my knees would collapse and mess my jump up.

So at this point, besides some better approach (a bit more speed under control if anything) - he's going to be limited by maximal strength. Increase that and Flip will dunk in games on the regular rim no problems.

I think in the one-leg jump it's harder to just "change" your approach speed and power since you're more likely to collapse at the knee if you do it.

I could come like that in my plant when I was 17-18 years old. No power, but I could use that speed. I was 67 kg in weight.

Here's a sample of my former speed, although it isn't my best by any means, at 0:09

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC1-0g3_Xnc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC1-0g3_Xnc</a>

I had 66 kg (145lbs) my lowest, but still had a belly (wtf is up with that) and back than i could feel i was faster when jumping off 1 leg, weight is definitely a factor..

I had 66 kg (145lbs) my lowest, but still had a belly (wtf is up with that) and back than i could feel i was faster when jumping off 1 leg, weight is definitely a factor..

Do you guys think, me being 5'8", 5'9" with shoes weighing up to 160 lbs will have a direct negative affect on my SLRVJ assuming relative strength stays the same? 

I weigh 151ish right now, and want to bulk up to 160.  I know bulking up is not the best thing when it comes to SLRVJ, but of course I won't go past 160.

Basically what I'm asking is,

2 single leg jumpers that are 5'9".  One weighs 160 and the other weighs 150.  Equal body fat%, relative strength, equal everything else.  They will probably jump the same in a DLRVJ, but will there be other factors coming into play performing a SLRVJ with 10 extra pounds of weight that will make the 150lb guy jump higher?

Quote from: D4 on August 25, 2011, 04:53:59 pm

Quote from: Flip on August 25, 2011, 04:44:44 pm

I had 66 kg (145lbs) my lowest, but still had a belly (wtf is up with that) and back than i could feel i was faster when jumping off 1 leg, weight is definitely a factor..

Do you guys think, me being 5'8", 5'9" with shoes weighing up to 160 lbs will have a direct negative affect on my SLRVJ assuming relative strength stays the same? 

I weigh 151ish right now, and want to bulk up to 160.  I know bulking up is not the best thing when it comes to SLRVJ, but of course I won't go past 160.

Basically what I'm asking is,

2 single leg jumpers that are 5'9".  One weighs 160 and the other weighs 150.  Equal body fat%, relative strength, equal everything else.  They will probably jump the same in a DLRVJ, but will there be other factors coming into play performing a SLRVJ with 10 extra pounds of weight that will make the 150lb guy jump higher?

if it's mostly lower body mass it shouldn't hurt.. it would probably help most people, as most people muscle up their slrvj's.

If most of the 10 pound gain came from upper body, will it hurt the vertical?