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Re: High frequency squat time approaching
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2011, 06:13:09 am »
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I'd argue you that your solid logic is wishful thinking. Do you think Adarq would be jumping as high if he hadn't practiced and learnt how to jump efficiently first? Being in 100% perfect physical shape is great but it's absolutely useless for sports if you don't have the coordination to apply it in the correct way. Being honest man, and I know i'm ripping you right now - I'm hoping you don't take it too personally but it looks to me that you're making hella excuses - just being real.
Goals by May 2011

1. Squat 120kg x 8
2. Deadlift 140 kg x 1
3. Jump Hang-snatch 70kg

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http://www.adarq.org/forum/progress-journals-experimental-routines/super-saiyan-()/msg44017/#msg44017

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Re: High frequency squat time approaching
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2011, 06:19:38 am »
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I DON'T WANT to train at jumping and this weight and bodyfat, my knee overuse will show up very quickly and the injury possibility increases in other areas as well.

I need to get at ~75 kg and then it's time to jump. Even more, I can't really jump anywhere since it's wet/cold outside and I don't have a gym in which to jump.

So it's time to get shredded, get cut, get awesome (or something) and work from there. And for that nutrition is DEFINITELY not going to help alone, I need to burn calories by the way of cardio and intervals.

That's why I want to do MSEM and then cardio just to get the feel of it, and progress in cardio from there.

Do you think that training in different spectrums (pure power & strength and pure conditioning and fat loss) will exclude each other out? MSEM is just a CNS training more than anything, so is doing a few reps of O-lifts or jump squats. And then, if I do interval stuff like swings it shouldn't have too much of a bad effect on power I think.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: High frequency squat time approaching
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2011, 06:32:16 am »
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You're wrong. The proper nutrition alone would make you lose fat. You need to keep lifting to maintain or build strength but nutrition alone would make you lose the extra weight you had. Again, i'd say you're relative strength is high enough to control your body weight and if your injuries are that bad you should maybe reconsider why exactly your putting yourself through this.
Goals by May 2011

1. Squat 120kg x 8
2. Deadlift 140 kg x 1
3. Jump Hang-snatch 70kg

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http://www.adarq.org/forum/progress-journals-experimental-routines/super-saiyan-()/msg44017/#msg44017

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Re: High frequency squat time approaching
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2011, 06:37:25 am »
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I don't believe in nutrition at all. That's just me (yes, I know). Even though I don't believe in nutrition, I will eat better (high protein, low carbs etc). My problem is my very, ultra-extremely low conditioning. I get tired very quickly. My heart rate goes up so high after just a little effort etc.

I feel way too heavy at my ~84 kg that I currently have so I really need to get lighter.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: High frequency squat time approaching
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2011, 08:13:12 am »
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So what wonder happens when u do cardio? Does your body light a flame in your fat cells that magically burns them?

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NO!

You just increase your daily caloric consumption. You could do the same with less food.

Cardio wastes muscle (even though Adarq will come in and say no) and in a cycle that focuses and peaking at max strength i don't think this is favourable!

I think enough people told you now that you were just lazy about your nutrition and u really just need to make a food log to keep track of your calories and macronutrients.
Cutting fat (especially at your leanness) is easy!

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Re: High frequency squat time approaching
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2011, 08:27:25 am »
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Well hopefully the body will burn fat instead of carbs when I do cardio. You won't really burn fat while doing MSEM you know.

And I WON'T DO STUPID SHIT LIKE COUNTING CALORIES BECAUSE THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE. I won't suddenly start weighing food and shit, I FUCKING HATE THAT, I'll just use common sense and that's it. I never could understand, unless one has a food fetish, how could anybody do that. As I HATE food, I won't do it and I'll go with that.

Dang this made me crazy. :uhhhfacepalm: :pissed:
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: High frequency squat time approaching
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2011, 08:39:53 am »
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Failing to prepare is preparing to fail. If you don't know the macro-nutrient make up of your foods and you can't tell by eye how much they weigh you are not going to be able to manage your diet well enough to lose weight. I'm willing to bet my life you can't do that right now. That's why you need to keep a journal and learn about this shit. When you've learnt it's ok to use what you've learnt and apply it. Right now you can't do that. Anyway yo, best of luck dude. Do your thing and I hope it goes well but you can count one sceptic in me right here!

For the record MSEM will make your body burn through shit loads of fat in the recovery period.
Goals by May 2011

1. Squat 120kg x 8
2. Deadlift 140 kg x 1
3. Jump Hang-snatch 70kg

Progress tracker
http://www.adarq.org/forum/progress-journals-experimental-routines/super-saiyan-()/msg44017/#msg44017

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Re: High frequency squat time approaching
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2011, 08:53:01 am »
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You might be right but I'm not willing mentally to do that. I don't want to. I H-A-T-E that. I hate food in general. People that talk about food are usually snobs and rich people that want to brag about it and show their "superiority" (as in "man I'm really cool, I ate <<insert food name here>> and I'm so cool, and you're not!!!"). Or nutritionists that talk all day long about food just so they convince you to throw money at them. You know, really weird people. Not that I'm not, but I prefer to be weird the other way around. I know a handful of these people.

I don't have money, I hate food, that's great combination of staying away from food related stuff of any kind. And I sincerely don't believe you are what you eat, you're more what your body takes and uses from what you eat and the hormonal and genetic factors play a big role.

I'll just eat less, burn more and that's it.

My swings intervals should make for good PEOC anyway so...
« Last Edit: January 20, 2011, 08:55:03 am by Raptor »
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: High frequency squat time approaching
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2011, 09:11:19 am »
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just dumb. lol.

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Re: High frequency squat time approaching
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2011, 09:24:09 am »
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just dumb. lol.

Don't hate me because I'm beautiful. :-*
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: High frequency squat time approaching
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2011, 09:46:40 am »
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just dumb. lol.

Don't hate me because I'm beautiful. :-*

people just want to help you and you just act dumb...

I don't see the problem in logging your food intake. You log your training and even your medication (!).
One week of logging and then another one with adjusted kcal is enough to know how much you can eat. You could even invest one hour of preparing some meals on paper with the same amount of kcal. so you can just chose which one u want to eat and just make it according to your plan.

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Re: High frequency squat time approaching
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2011, 09:55:58 am »
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Well the problem is that it's too much to worry about and my food is limited. My food depends on whatever I have in the house, it's not like I'm an avid food buyer or anything, so I can't really "plan" my meals (I don't want to either).

Then, I have no idea how much does that particular food weigh. Then, I need to search all these things I eat for the amount of kcal per 100g and, guess what, that doesn't matter since I can't weigh them anyway and I would hate to do it. Then, I don't think it's necessary because I don't buy into the food hype. It would be hell to measure and search through all that on top of not believing it's any good in the first place.

Then, even if this would work, food changes properties depending if you eat it crude, you boil it, cook it, fry it in oil etc. Therefore, the amount of kcal you end up with is false so I might as well spare me this hell and just eat less and burn more.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: High frequency squat time approaching
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2011, 10:18:20 am »
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If you don't add stuff to it while it's cooking it shouldn't change very much at all. You shouldn't be frying shit if you want to lose weight aswell...a little bit of oil is ok but you need to be careful. Honestly dude, I think it's good your not taking this personally and you have a sense of humour about it so all i'm going to say is goodluck! Keep away from processed food. Eat as much meat and  vegetables as you can with some fruit in there aswell. Limit your carbs and fat to a moderate amount and you should be ok.
Goals by May 2011

1. Squat 120kg x 8
2. Deadlift 140 kg x 1
3. Jump Hang-snatch 70kg

Progress tracker
http://www.adarq.org/forum/progress-journals-experimental-routines/super-saiyan-()/msg44017/#msg44017

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Re: High frequency squat time approaching
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2011, 10:44:54 am »
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I DON'T WANT to train at jumping and this weight and bodyfat, my knee overuse will show up very quickly and the injury possibility increases in other areas as well.

I need to get at ~75 kg and then it's time to jump. Even more, I can't really jump anywhere since it's wet/cold outside and I don't have a gym in which to jump.

So it's time to get shredded, get cut, get awesome (or something) and work from there. And for that nutrition is DEFINITELY not going to help alone, I need to burn calories by the way of cardio and intervals.

That's why I want to do MSEM and then cardio just to get the feel of it, and progress in cardio from there.

Do you think that training in different spectrums (pure power & strength and pure conditioning and fat loss) will exclude each other out? MSEM is just a CNS training more than anything, so is doing a few reps of O-lifts or jump squats. And then, if I do interval stuff like swings it shouldn't have too much of a bad effect on power I think.

Categorically incorrect. Nutrition is BY FAR THE MOST IMPORTANT ELEMENT in cutting weight. A few KB swings are going to amount to jack squat in terms of calories burned. They won't hurt, but they're not gonna get you ripped and shredded.

CUT YOUR CALORIES, MAINTAIN OR INCREASE PROTEIN INTAKE, AND KEEP LIFTING HEAVY TO MAINTAIN LBM.

EDIT: If cardio is important to you for other reasons, then obviously you should keep doing it. My point was that as far as weight/fat loss goes, cardio is much, much less important than diet.
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Re: High frequency squat time approaching
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2011, 11:02:30 am »
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Well I'm not taking it personally because there's nothing to take personally. If I were to believe in nutrition I'd be "offended" Raptor is mocking nutrition as well (if I give a damn about Raptor in the first place). I mean, I'm crazy but I can still keep a good grip on things.

My idea with cardio is, first, that I suck hard at cardio and second, I might make the body switch to a more fat burning mode (make it choose fat as a fuel more than carbs). For that to occur, I need to lower the carb intake, lower the sugar intake to raise muscle insulin sensitivity and alter the hormonal response etc etc etc. Hopefully, that will do something.

Sure, this will happen by manipulating NUTRITION, yes, I know, but to count calories and do stuff like that? No sir. Too much for me. I'll eat less, exercise more, take in less carbs, eat less sugar, more protein etc, but never count calories. That would drive me more crazy than I already am.

If I do this, I still should get under 80 kg and lower body fat %.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps