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Re: low bar squat vs high bar squat
« Reply #75 on: February 06, 2011, 11:22:12 pm »
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Oh, btw, i think the low bar squat translates a bit less to the VJ. However, since you can use more weight in the low-bar, it pretty much evens out. IMO you'd probably be at the same spot VJ-wise with either approach...

example:

A - After 3 years, Squat high-bar 405lbs at 200lbs bw and jump 30"
B - After 3 yeras, Squat low-bar 440lbs at 200lbs bw and jump 30"

Choose on preference.

well, i slightly disagree.. depends on how you actually perform the low bar/high bar squat.. if it's low bar PL, then i think it has less transfer regardless.. i feel squatting with more "forward knee shift" transfers better to svj/rvj.

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Re: low bar squat vs high bar squat
« Reply #76 on: February 07, 2011, 12:09:53 am »
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Oh, btw, i think the low bar squat translates a bit less to the VJ. However, since you can use more weight in the low-bar, it pretty much evens out. IMO you'd probably be at the same spot VJ-wise with either approach...

example:

A - After 3 years, Squat high-bar 405lbs at 200lbs bw and jump 30"
B - After 3 yeras, Squat low-bar 440lbs at 200lbs bw and jump 30"

Choose on preference.

well, i slightly disagree.. depends on how you actually perform the low bar/high bar squat.. if it's low bar PL, then i think it has less transfer regardless.. i feel squatting with more "forward knee shift" transfers better to svj/rvj.

pc

Agree 100%, bar placement does not dictate the many other factors that determine the knee, hip, ankle, angles.  I have had several lifters who are able to stay more upright during a squat with the lower bar placement, actually getting more quad involvement than they do with the higher bar placement that forces them to lean forward more and end up failing at the low back first, rather than the legs.   

 
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Re: low bar squat vs high bar squat
« Reply #77 on: February 07, 2011, 01:29:43 am »
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Oh, btw, i think the low bar squat translates a bit less to the VJ. However, since you can use more weight in the low-bar, it pretty much evens out. IMO you'd probably be at the same spot VJ-wise with either approach...

example:

A - After 3 years, Squat high-bar 405lbs at 200lbs bw and jump 30"
B - After 3 yeras, Squat low-bar 440lbs at 200lbs bw and jump 30"

Choose on preference.

well, i slightly disagree.. depends on how you actually perform the low bar/high bar squat.. if it's low bar PL, then i think it has less transfer regardless.. i feel squatting with more "forward knee shift" transfers better to svj/rvj.

pc

Agree 100%, bar placement does not dictate the many other factors that determine the knee, hip, ankle, angles.  I have had several lifters who are able to stay more upright during a squat with the lower bar placement, actually getting more quad involvement than they do with the higher bar placement that forces them to lean forward more and end up failing at the low back first, rather than the legs.   

 

So everyone's different levers and center of balance almost make this factor impossible to debate about. Or so it seems to me anyway. the knee, hips, ankles, angles movement will be different on different people then. adarq, divide people into two groups, tall and lanky and the short and stout group(I think he does anyway)..but there are probably many more

So what was said before still stands. whatever is comfortable to you is the best. Just gain strenf and you will  :ibjumping:

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Re: low bar squat vs high bar squat
« Reply #78 on: February 07, 2011, 04:33:58 am »
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I think it's good that the legs are put through a heavier weight by using the low bar techique because more recruitment adaptations can occur CNS-wise. That's why sometimes partials are a good thing: more weight.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps