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Electrical Muscle Stimulation
« on: June 15, 2009, 09:59:57 am »
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I held a presentation last week pointing out the advantages and disadvantes of electrical muscle stimualation, after going through alot of research, and I'm convinced that it can be a powerful training tool if you know how to apply it. Thus I'd like to start a discussion on EMS. I'd like to hear your thoughts on it, your results, and how you implemented it. Which parameters did you use (impulse frequency, duration, etc) and what was the training protocol?

Which device do you have?  Etc.

I'm not referring to lazy knucklehead EMS training (the belts from the online shops), by the way.

P.S: How can I put the slides of my presentation as an attachment?

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Re: Electrical Muscle Stimulation
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2009, 11:56:43 am »
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If you click on additional options once you are on the post reply page, you can attach a file.
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Re: Electrical Muscle Stimulation
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2009, 12:35:34 pm »
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I've used EMS for a few short periods of several weeks and was astonished with the results. I went from not being able to do a single natural GHR to being able to knock out a set of 11 completely unassisted. That having been said, the discomfort, setup time, and the need to shave my caveman legs has stopped me from using it since.

Though I can't remember the exact settings, I used a EMS 7500 @ 120 hZ with the power turned all the way up.

I really should give it another look, leg shaving be damned,
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Re: Electrical Muscle Stimulation
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2009, 02:34:59 pm »
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Quote from: RJ Nelsen on June 15, 2009, 12:35:34 pm

I really should give it another look, leg shaving be damned,

you'll be more aerodynamic for the 100m  :P
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Re: Electrical Muscle Stimulation
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2009, 02:45:58 pm »
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Quote from: Alex V on June 15, 2009, 02:34:59 pm
you'll be more aerodynamic for the 100m  :P

Yeah, there's that too. ;D

I also forgot to mention that I did sets of 10 second on, 60 seconds off (if I remember correctly), and usually did 4-5 sets.
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Re: Electrical Muscle Stimulation
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2009, 07:30:44 pm »
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Quote from: RJ Nelsen on June 15, 2009, 12:35:34 pm
I've used EMS for a few short periods of several weeks and was astonished with the results. I went from not being able to do a single natural GHR to being able to knock out a set of 11 completely unassisted. That having been said, the discomfort, setup time, and the need to shave my caveman legs has stopped me from using it since.

Though I can't remember the exact settings, I used a EMS 7500 @ 120 hZ with the power turned all the way up.

I really should give it another look, leg shaving be damned,

RJ this sums up my thoughts on EMS exactly. I have been doing it whilst I recover from tendonitis and just last week I was able to squat again. I had not done any leg work for 8-10 weeks besides the EMS and soem vibration training and when I tested my 1Rm I was only about 5KG off where I was before I stopped. I was very surprised. Those downsides you mention - sitting around, setting up, shaving - are so fricking annoying. The other one that you didn't mention was that soemtimes when you really crank it up it seems to hurt my skin a fair bit.

I like to multitask though - I play Xbox 360 whilst the machine works its magic on one of the pre-set programs. Nizar I don't know what settings I have been using other than the Thibadeau method of just cranking it up to as high as was tolerable.

Cheers

Jack
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Re: Electrical Muscle Stimulation
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2009, 08:22:21 pm »
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Quote from: Jack Woodrup on June 15, 2009, 07:30:44 pm
The other one that you didn't mention was that soemtimes when you really crank it up it seems to hurt my skin a fair bit.

Not with the ARP.  Just be sure to check your stool afterwords   :o
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Re: Electrical Muscle Stimulation
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2009, 10:11:07 am »
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I have the EMS from Wisdomking.com..  Its been a while since I've used if for training.

Do any of yall think that the EMS would cause muscle tightness using those powerful contractions? 
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Re: Electrical Muscle Stimulation
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2009, 12:32:22 pm »
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Quote from: ku2u on June 17, 2009, 10:11:07 am
I have the EMS from Wisdomking.com..  Its been a while since I've used if for training.

Do any of yall think that the EMS would cause muscle tightness using those powerful contractions? 

What do you mean "muscle tightness"? Are you talking about soreness or inflexibility?

If soreness, then yes, it would. Intense contractions with a significant volume will usually cause soreness, but like everything else, you'd get used to it over time.

If you're talking about inflexibility, then no, not unless you did something wrong. Flexibility is a neurologically mediated phenomenon, meaning it's controlled by the nervous system. As long as the volume of work teaching the muscles to remain elongated outweighs the volume of work teaching them to remained shortened, you'll be fine.
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Re: Electrical Muscle Stimulation
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2009, 10:54:28 am »
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So what if an athlete does have muscle tightness from training, etc.  Are there any ways of applying the EMS for flexibility or releasing a tight muscle?
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Re: Electrical Muscle Stimulation
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2009, 03:26:24 pm »
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Quote from: ku2u on July 07, 2009, 10:54:28 am
So what if an athlete does have muscle tightness from training, etc.  Are there any ways of applying the EMS for flexibility or releasing a tight muscle?

If you've got a model with a TENS mode then you could use that to help with soreness. As for flexibility though, I'm pretty sure you could use EMS to help with that.

I'm just spitballing here, but if you STIM a muscle group while it's stretched to the end of its ROM it should help increase flexibility over time. The same is true any type of loading at the end of the ROM.
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