Author Topic: Calfs (Read 29832 times)

$ick3nin.vend3tta · « **Reply #75 on:** April 11, 2011, 11:05:38 pm »

Quote from: Dreyth on April 11, 2011, 09:12:46 pm

More ROM. With your toes elevated, the starting point of the rep can begin in dorsiflexion as opposed to a neutral position (defined here as soles of feet being parallel to the floor) if you don't have them elevated.

Thanks Dreyth.

Hopefully somebody can help me out with this next question.

Lets say your doing calf raises in either standing or seated position with the toes elevated on some platform. At which point in the ROM (dorsiflexion/neutral/plantar-flexor) is the Achilles tendon being optimally worked?.

LanceSTS · « **Reply #76 on:** April 11, 2011, 11:18:32 pm »

Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on April 11, 2011, 11:05:38 pm

Quote from: Dreyth on April 11, 2011, 09:12:46 pm
More ROM. With your toes elevated, the starting point of the rep can begin in dorsiflexion as opposed to a neutral position (defined here as soles of feet being parallel to the floor) if you don't have them elevated.

Thanks Dreyth.

Hopefully somebody can help me out with this next question.

Lets say your doing calf raises in either standing or seated position with the toes elevated on some platform. At which point in the ROM (dorsiflexion/neutral/plantar-flexor) is the Achilles tendon being optimally worked?.

the achilles tendon will take over any time in the rom when you bounce out of the bottom (however low you go). This is one of the main reason a lot of athletes dont feel like they are gaining much calf size when doing calf raises, if you pause in the bottom, the gastroc/soleus will take the brunt of the work, if you bounce or rebound out, the achilles tendon dominates. Both methods are good, but starting out controlled and slower is the way to go, once you have that base you can get more explosive with them.

$ick3nin.vend3tta · « **Reply #77 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:21:44 am »

Quote from: LanceSTS on April 11, 2011, 11:18:32 pm

the achilles tendon will take over any time in the rom when you bounce out of the bottom (however low you go). This is one of the main reason a lot of athletes dont feel like they are gaining much calf size when doing calf raises, if you pause in the bottom, the gastroc/soleus will take the brunt of the work, if you bounce or rebound out, the achilles tendon dominates. Both methods are good, but starting out controlled and slower is the way to go, once you have that base you can get more explosive with them.

Thanks Lance.

Another thing, When your at the very bottom of the ROM, is your Achilles in it's most lengthened or shortest state?.

LanceSTS · « **Reply #78 on:** April 12, 2011, 03:01:47 am »

Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on April 12, 2011, 12:21:44 am

Quote from: LanceSTS on April 11, 2011, 11:18:32 pm
the achilles tendon will take over any time in the rom when you bounce out of the bottom (however low you go). This is one of the main reason a lot of athletes dont feel like they are gaining much calf size when doing calf raises, if you pause in the bottom, the gastroc/soleus will take the brunt of the work, if you bounce or rebound out, the achilles tendon dominates. Both methods are good, but starting out controlled and slower is the way to go, once you have that base you can get more explosive with them.

Lance, When your at the very bottom of the ROM, is your Achilles in it's most lengthened or shortest state?.

Its being stretched in dorsi flexion if thats what youre asking, ankle dorsi flexion is considered a useful indicator of achilles tendon length in studies.

Dreyth · « **Reply #79 on:** April 12, 2011, 05:43:22 pm »

Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on April 12, 2011, 12:21:44 am

Quote from: LanceSTS on April 11, 2011, 11:18:32 pm
the achilles tendon will take over any time in the rom when you bounce out of the bottom (however low you go). This is one of the main reason a lot of athletes dont feel like they are gaining much calf size when doing calf raises, if you pause in the bottom, the gastroc/soleus will take the brunt of the work, if you bounce or rebound out, the achilles tendon dominates. Both methods are good, but starting out controlled and slower is the way to go, once you have that base you can get more explosive with them.

Lance, When your at the very bottom of the ROM, is your Achilles in it's most lengthened or shortest state?.

Strecthed, but if you pause at the bottom for a second or two, it doesn't "spring back" as much. Otherwise, it would be easier to perform calf raises this way (but it ain't

).

LanceSTS · « **Reply #80 on:** April 13, 2011, 01:35:12 am »

Quote from: Dreyth on April 12, 2011, 05:43:22 pm

Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on April 12, 2011, 12:21:44 am
Quote from: LanceSTS on April 11, 2011, 11:18:32 pm
the achilles tendon will take over any time in the rom when you bounce out of the bottom (however low you go). This is one of the main reason a lot of athletes dont feel like they are gaining much calf size when doing calf raises, if you pause in the bottom, the gastroc/soleus will take the brunt of the work, if you bounce or rebound out, the achilles tendon dominates. Both methods are good, but starting out controlled and slower is the way to go, once you have that base you can get more explosive with them.

Lance, When your at the very bottom of the ROM, is your Achilles in it's most lengthened or shortest state?.

Strecthed, but if you pause at the bottom for a second or two, it doesn't "spring back" as much. Otherwise, it would be easier to perform calf raises this way (but it ain't ).

Quote from: LanceSTS on April 11, 2011, 11:18:32 pm

Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on April 11, 2011, 11:05:38 pm
Quote from: Dreyth on April 11, 2011, 09:12:46 pm
More ROM. With your toes elevated, the starting point of the rep can begin in dorsiflexion as opposed to a neutral position (defined here as soles of feet being parallel to the floor) if you don't have them elevated.

Thanks Dreyth.

Hopefully somebody can help me out with this next question.

Lets say your doing calf raises in either standing or seated position with the toes elevated on some platform. At which point in the ROM (dorsiflexion/neutral/plantar-flexor) is the Achilles tendon being optimally worked?.

the achilles tendon will take over any time in the rom when you bounce out of the bottom (however low you go). This is one of the main reason a lot of athletes dont feel like they are gaining much calf size when doing calf raises, if you pause in the bottom, the gastroc/soleus will take the brunt of the work, if you bounce or rebound out, the achilles tendon dominates. Both methods are good, but starting out controlled and slower is the way to go, once you have that base you can get more explosive with them.

D-Rose Jr · « **Reply #81 on:** April 13, 2011, 04:18:23 pm »

does calf size really matter. Like if you have a short calf.

dirksilver · « **Reply #82 on:** April 13, 2011, 04:23:28 pm »

Quote from: Petey0109 on April 13, 2011, 04:18:23 pm

does calf size really matter. Like if you have a short calf.

short answer...nope

Raptor · « **Reply #83 on:** April 13, 2011, 04:24:47 pm »

Big calves will pull you down because they move the center of gravity lower. You need a big chest so your center of gravity is higher and the leverage increases. Big gunz ownz

Dreyth · « **Reply #84 on:** April 14, 2011, 03:56:36 pm »

Quote from: LanceSTS on April 13, 2011, 01:35:12 am

Quote from: Dreyth on April 12, 2011, 05:43:22 pm
Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on April 12, 2011, 12:21:44 am
Quote from: LanceSTS on April 11, 2011, 11:18:32 pm
the achilles tendon will take over any time in the rom when you bounce out of the bottom (however low you go). This is one of the main reason a lot of athletes dont feel like they are gaining much calf size when doing calf raises, if you pause in the bottom, the gastroc/soleus will take the brunt of the work, if you bounce or rebound out, the achilles tendon dominates. Both methods are good, but starting out controlled and slower is the way to go, once you have that base you can get more explosive with them.

Lance, When your at the very bottom of the ROM, is your Achilles in it's most lengthened or shortest state?.

Strecthed, but if you pause at the bottom for a second or two, it doesn't "spring back" as much. Otherwise, it would be easier to perform calf raises this way (but it ain't ).

Quote from: LanceSTS on April 11, 2011, 11:18:32 pm
Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on April 11, 2011, 11:05:38 pm
Quote from: Dreyth on April 11, 2011, 09:12:46 pm
More ROM. With your toes elevated, the starting point of the rep can begin in dorsiflexion as opposed to a neutral position (defined here as soles of feet being parallel to the floor) if you don't have them elevated.

Thanks Dreyth.

Hopefully somebody can help me out with this next question.

Lets say your doing calf raises in either standing or seated position with the toes elevated on some platform. At which point in the ROM (dorsiflexion/neutral/plantar-flexor) is the Achilles tendon being optimally worked?.

the achilles tendon will take over any time in the rom when you bounce out of the bottom (however low you go). This is one of the main reason a lot of athletes dont feel like they are gaining much calf size when doing calf raises, if you pause in the bottom, the gastroc/soleus will take the brunt of the work, if you bounce or rebound out, the achilles tendon dominates. Both methods are good, but starting out controlled and slower is the way to go, once you have that base you can get more explosive with them.

just remember,

pause = no bounce!

adarqui · « **Reply #85 on:** April 17, 2011, 12:24:25 am »

Quote from: Petey0109 on April 13, 2011, 04:18:23 pm

does calf size really matter. Like if you have a short calf.

even if it did, why let it in your head? bottom line no, you can jump just as high with huge calves as you can with very short calves (long tendons).. usually the huge-calve people need much stronger hips/thighs though than the people with shorter calves.. but there's a variety of different builds than can achieve elite numbers in sprinting/jumping.

D-Rose Jr · « **Reply #86 on:** April 17, 2011, 12:44:48 am »

idk. My bad i meant like how big it is. Like the size of muscle like the size 13 inch compared to 16 inch same length

adarqui · « **Reply #87 on:** April 17, 2011, 01:04:17 am »

Quote from: Petey0109 on April 17, 2011, 12:44:48 am

idk. My bad i meant like how big it is. Like the size of muscle like the size 13 inch compared to 16 inch same length

well, if that 3 extra inches of muscle results in more strength, then sure it would help produce more power for jumping/sprinting.. pretty hard to add 3 inches circumference to your calves, but sure, they are just like any other muscle.. if glutes grow, more power, if hamstrings/quads grow, more power, etc.. calves are no different.

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