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carl lewis was on roids................ that was his "progressive resistance routine".. he's failed tests, coverups, people close to him made claims, etc.

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Carl Lewis never tested positive for steroids. Just stimulants. He probably was though. There's at least one instance of USADA covering up a positive test of an athlete who went on to medal in an olympics.

Dr Exum, the former USOC
director for drug control from 1991 to 2000, released more than 30,000 pages of documents to Sports Illustrated. They confirm widespread suspicion of the USOC drug-testing system before it was moved to an independent body, the US Anti Doping Agency, after the Sydney Olympics.

The Herald reported last year that a US athlete tested positive to steroids in 1999 but was allowed to compete - and win an Olympic gold medal - in the 2000 Sydney Games. US officials still refuse to divulge the name of the athlete, or those of 13 other athletes who had failed drug tests around the same time, citing privacy laws.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/17/1050172709693.html

Quote from: Raptor on March 25, 2011, 12:50:06 pm

Are you actually quoting Jay Schroeder?, or did you make it up?. It's pretty good if you did, but it sounds like something that would come straight from the horses mouth to gloss over his methods.

I just made that up. If I were quoting Schroeder you woulda seen the word "methodic" in there about 9 or 10 times. That and several other worlds are unique to evo-sport.  Go read some of James Colberts posts on the subject sometime for some entertainment.

Um... wrong quote, I never said that. In fact, it was funny someone thought you were really quoting Schroeder.

So when doing weighted calf raises, with the goal of trying to improve vertical jump...

Should the principles of reactive strength and RFD be applied here as well?

Should each rep be performed by dropping down, catching yourself and exploding up as fast as possible?

probably not since you get that through your plyos and jumping...i think the idea is to just strengthen the muscles through progressive overload just like squats...just work on getting the weight up on the lift like any other...tinker with it all later

Quote from: Ineedtodunk on April 08, 2011, 01:11:23 am

So when doing weighted calf raises, with the goal of trying to improve vertical jump...

Should the principles of reactive strength and RFD be applied here as well?

Should each rep be performed by dropping down, catching yourself and exploding up as fast as possible?

probably not since you get that through your plyos and jumping...i think the idea is to just strengthen the muscles through progressive overload just like squats...just work on getting the weight up on the lift like any other...tinker with it all later

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you want to just hit them controlled, no bouncing... no need for bouncing - you can do that through reactive work/sprints/jumps, you want to hit the muscle hard through controlled tension. i'd go with controlled tension on the way down and up, more so on the way up.

pc

Do calf-raises with your toes elevated on a box or stack of two 45lb plates.

What about my forte, seated ISO calf raises?.

What is the difference between having your toes elevated on a box as opposed to just having the feet on the ground in plantar-flexion phase?. Is there any difference in terms of athletic benefit performing a seated calf raise ISO in either foot position (floor/raised on block)?.

I think it'll really make a difference in my speed since my calves are small and I'll probably get quick newbie gains out of them.

Charlie Francis opposed sprinters having big calf's & looking at Usain's, his are far from having lots of mass.





What he does have are achilles/foot tendons with more snap than a Woody band.

Quote from: Dreyth on April 09, 2011, 03:14:08 pm

Do calf-raises with your toes elevated on a box or stack of two 45lb plates.

What about my forte, seated ISO calf raises?.

What is the difference between having your toes elevated on a box as opposed to just having the feet on the ground in plantar-flexion phase?. Is there any difference in terms of athletic benefit performing a seated calf raise ISO in either foot position (floor/raised on block)?.

Quote from: Dreyth on April 09, 2011, 03:14:08 pm

I think it'll really make a difference in my speed since my calves are small and I'll probably get quick newbie gains out of them.

Charlie Francis opposed sprinters having big calf's & looking at Usain's, his are far from having lots of mass.





What he does have are achilles/foot tendons with more snap than a Woody band.

doesn't matter what charlie opposes though, calf size isn't going to change much with training, but strength of the calf certainly can improve greatly.. of course you're going to see sprinter's with smaller calves in general, this indicates they have longer achilles tendons, beneficial to sprinting/jumping etc.

seated calf work hits the soleus much harder than the gastrocs... standing calve raises hit the gastrocs primarily.. toes elevated slightly just allows for greater range of motion under tension.. ROM is very small regardless, so just a small increase in ROM can help lead to more strength gain in the calves, you just can't use an excessive rom (way too high of a block/box).

pc

Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on April 09, 2011, 05:07:11 pm

What is the difference between having your toes elevated on a box as opposed to just having the feet on the ground in plantar-flexion phase?.

More ROM. With your toes elevated, the starting point of the rep can begin in dorsiflexion as opposed to a neutral position (defined here as soles of feet being parallel to the floor) if you don't have them elevated.

Btw, did calf raises today for the first time in 2 years. WOWWW I miss them! With my toes elevated, of course

nice, expect more vert gains than training without implementing them :F

Quote from: Dreyth on April 11, 2011, 09:12:46 pm

Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on April 09, 2011, 05:07:11 pm

What is the difference between having your toes elevated on a box as opposed to just having the feet on the ground in plantar-flexion phase?.

More ROM. With your toes elevated, the starting point of the rep can begin in dorsiflexion as opposed to a neutral position (defined here as soles of feet being parallel to the floor) if you don't have them elevated.


Btw, did calf raises today for the first time in 2 years. WOWWW I miss them! With my toes elevated, of course

What volume and reps per set?

20 sets of 3000