Author Topic: Calfs (Read 29868 times)

Kellyb · « **Reply #45 on:** March 24, 2011, 02:42:58 pm »

You guys talking negative about Isos obviously haven't tried ISO EXTREMES. The key is you have to establish a relaxed alpha dominant physchological state and (utilizing super 7 positioning) pull yourself for at least 5 minutes to activate the inherent recriprocal antagonistic neuro feed back mechanisms in your nervous system for the required musculature. Over time this enables your body to literally rewire and reshape itself internally to external. The results in drastically improved force production over a more thorough range of motion, increased FT fiber expression (drastically increased muscularity), increased health, increased vitality, better elimination, and pure domination on the field. The real world results of those who dedicate themselves to iso extremes over a period of time are nothing short of spectacular. Take Jay Schroeder for instance: He went from being an old man with a blown out back to a world class masters level sprinter and cyclist using nothing but iso extremez. The key is you have to dedicate yourself 100% and work proper iso extreme positions every day for several months straight before the miraculous gains suddenly appear. Utilizing iso extreme methodology it's fairly common to go 1 month, 2 months, 3 months with no gains then all the sudden you turn into an athletic superstar overnight as your body, mind, and spirit synchronize in tune with positional mastery.

D-Rose Jr · « **Reply #46 on:** March 24, 2011, 02:56:27 pm »

Quote from: Kellyb on March 24, 2011, 02:42:58 pm

You guys talking negative about Isos obviously haven't tried ISO EXTREMES. The key is you have to establish a relaxed alpha dominant physchological state and (utilizing super 7 positioning) pull yourself for at least 5 minutes to activate the inherent recriprocal antagonistic neuro feed back mechanisms in your nervous system for the required musculature. Over time this enables your body to literally rewire and reshape itself internally to external. The results in drastically improved force production over a more thorough range of motion, increased FT fiber expression (drastically increased muscularity), increased health, increased vitality, better elimination, and pure domination on the field. The real world results of those who dedicate themselves to iso extremes over a period of time are nothing short of spectacular. Take Jay Schroeder for instance: He went from being an old man with a blown out back to a world class masters level sprinter and cyclist using nothing but iso extremez. The key is you have to dedicate yourself 100% and work proper iso extreme positions every day for several months straight before the miraculous gains suddenly appear. Utilizing iso extreme methodology it's fairly common to go 1 month, 2 months, 3 months with no gains then all the sudden you turn into an athletic superstar overnight as your body, mind, and spirit synchronize in tune with positional mastery.

is this a joke

adarqui · « **Reply #47 on:** March 24, 2011, 04:21:23 pm »

Quote from: Petey0109 on March 24, 2011, 02:56:27 pm

Quote from: Kellyb on March 24, 2011, 02:42:58 pm
You guys talking negative about Isos obviously haven't tried ISO EXTREMES. The key is you have to establish a relaxed alpha dominant physchological state and (utilizing super 7 positioning) pull yourself for at least 5 minutes to activate the inherent recriprocal antagonistic neuro feed back mechanisms in your nervous system for the required musculature. Over time this enables your body to literally rewire and reshape itself internally to external. The results in drastically improved force production over a more thorough range of motion, increased FT fiber expression (drastically increased muscularity), increased health, increased vitality, better elimination, and pure domination on the field. The real world results of those who dedicate themselves to iso extremes over a period of time are nothing short of spectacular. Take Jay Schroeder for instance: He went from being an old man with a blown out back to a world class masters level sprinter and cyclist using nothing but iso extremez. The key is you have to dedicate yourself 100% and work proper iso extreme positions every day for several months straight before the miraculous gains suddenly appear. Utilizing iso extreme methodology it's fairly common to go 1 month, 2 months, 3 months with no gains then all the sudden you turn into an athletic superstar overnight as your body, mind, and spirit synchronize in tune with positional mastery.

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is this a joke

lmfao yes, a very good one at that.

check the jay schroeder call em out thread etc, for some of the backstory on iso extremes, unfortunately the old WGF forum disappeared and so too did the hilarious iso extreme threads.

Raptor · « **Reply #48 on:** March 24, 2011, 06:32:32 pm »

There is some info on iso-extremes somewhere, although I can't remember what and where, which was "positive".

$ick3nin.vend3tta · « **Reply #49 on:** March 24, 2011, 08:35:01 pm »

Quote from: Raptor on March 24, 2011, 02:40:47 pm

What about a basketball "aggresive" defensive stance?. If I really really play defense and hold that defensive stance, I get sooo tired in the quads and calves... it's really weird. I basically stay in that defensive stance position more or less isometric in nature, with just a small knee/hip angle variation. It's interesting what you guys think about that?

Reminds me of the days when I was trying to progress the Horse stance exercise. You get shoalins doing that for hours. Crazy pain.

As for getting tired in the quads and calves, I would say a lot of that files down to the continuous stop/start running you do in the game. The Horse stance I was doing never put my calf's under strain but running surely does. It's like in sprinting, the drive/acceleration phase (stop/start in basketball) uses much of the quads/calfs, then thereafter, it turns more into more a posterior exercise.

adarqui · « **Reply #50 on:** March 24, 2011, 08:50:29 pm »

well, i did shotokahn (however you spell it) karate for ~8 years or so, from around age 8 to 16, with my dad, in a really hard oldschool "dojo".. anyway, we did horse stances every class, we'd be in that stance for a long time, throwing punches/blocks etc.. i became extremely good at it, could hold them forever, but it didn't make me any more powerful that's for sure.. i did that 3x/week for those 8 years.

perhaps it lead to some of my quad dominance, who knows, but, it definitely didn't lead to "powerful quads".

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$ick3nin.vend3tta · « **Reply #51 on:** March 24, 2011, 11:56:18 pm »

Quote from: adarqui on March 24, 2011, 08:50:29 pm

well, i did shotokahn (however you spell it) karate for ~8 years or so, from around age 8 to 16, with my dad, in a really hard oldschool "dojo".. anyway, we did horse stances every class, we'd be in that stance for a long time, throwing punches/blocks etc.. i became extremely good at it, could hold them forever, but it didn't make me any more powerful that's for sure.. i did that 3x/week for those 8 years.

perhaps it lead to some of my quad dominance, who knows, but, it definitely didn't lead to "powerful quads".

How was your form?, being centred?, straight spine? etc.

Man, I remember the days I started, I couldn't go 60secs before my legs started to shake.

adarqui · « **Reply #52 on:** March 25, 2011, 05:17:26 am »

Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 24, 2011, 11:56:18 pm

Quote from: adarqui on March 24, 2011, 08:50:29 pm
well, i did shotokahn (however you spell it) karate for ~8 years or so, from around age 8 to 16, with my dad, in a really hard oldschool "dojo".. anyway, we did horse stances every class, we'd be in that stance for a long time, throwing punches/blocks etc.. i became extremely good at it, could hold them forever, but it didn't make me any more powerful that's for sure.. i did that 3x/week for those 8 years.

perhaps it lead to some of my quad dominance, who knows, but, it definitely didn't lead to "powerful quads".

How was your form?, being centred?, straight spine? etc.

Man, I remember the days I started, I couldn't go 60secs before my legs started to shake.

being centered? dno, form was good, i'd get hit with a big weird looking stick if it wasn't (after i graduated past white belt).. ended up brown belt, couldn't get black belt koz you had to spar the sensai 100% to get black belt, this place was pretty hardcore.. it was in 'teh hood' lmao, only white kid at that park.

haha

but ya straight spin, sitting into it, just like you'd see in any shotokahn vids..

ya we'd have to hold it for minutes at a time.. if you rised up you'd come get hit with the stick and get your gi "torn up", just shaked around like you're a bitch.. it's funny looking back.

place was hardcore.. i had to hit girls daily.. hard.. if i didn't hit them full force, or attempt to hit them full force, so that they could learn to block properly, i'd get hit with a stick lmao.

pc

Raptor · « **Reply #53 on:** March 25, 2011, 05:38:24 am »

Quote from: adarqui on March 25, 2011, 05:17:26 am

place was hardcore.. i had to hit girls daily.. hard.. if i didn't hit them full force, or attempt to hit them full force, so that they could learn to block properly, i'd get hit with a stick lmao.

I'm beginning to like that place.

TheSituation · « **Reply #54 on:** March 25, 2011, 12:32:20 pm »

Quote from: Raptor on March 25, 2011, 05:38:24 am

Quote from: adarqui on March 25, 2011, 05:17:26 am
place was hardcore.. i had to hit girls daily.. hard.. if i didn't hit them full force, or attempt to hit them full force, so that they could learn to block properly, i'd get hit with a stick lmao.

I'm beginning to like that place.

Raptor · « **Reply #55 on:** March 25, 2011, 12:50:06 pm »

Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 25, 2011, 12:47:10 pm

Quote from: Kellyb on March 24, 2011, 02:42:58 pm
You guys talking negative about Isos obviously haven't tried ISO EXTREMES. The key is you have to establish a relaxed alpha dominant physchological state and (utilizing super 7 positioning) pull yourself for at least 5 minutes to activate the inherent recriprocal antagonistic neuro feed back mechanisms in your nervous system for the required musculature. Over time this enables your body to literally rewire and reshape itself internally to external. The results in drastically improved force production over a more thorough range of motion, increased FT fiber expression (drastically increased muscularity), increased health, increased vitality, better elimination, and pure domination on the field. The real world results of those who dedicate themselves to iso extremes over a period of time are nothing short of spectacular. Take Jay Schroeder for instance: He went from being an old man with a blown out back to a world class masters level sprinter and cyclist using nothing but iso extremez. The key is you have to dedicate yourself 100% and work proper iso extreme positions every day for several months straight before the miraculous gains suddenly appear. Utilizing iso extreme methodology it's fairly common to go 1 month, 2 months, 3 months with no gains then all the sudden you turn into an athletic superstar overnight as your body, mind, and spirit synchronize in tune with positional mastery.

Are you actually quoting Jay Schroeder?, or did you make it up?. It's pretty good if you did, but it sounds like something that would come straight from the horses mouth to gloss over his methods.

$ick3nin.vend3tta · « **Reply #56 on:** March 26, 2011, 08:14:51 am »

It's just that Carl Lewis would have agreed 'partly' with those type of methods Jay proposes. So do I.

Carl started lifting heavy towards the back end of his career & ran slower.

adarqui · « **Reply #57 on:** March 26, 2011, 09:46:44 am »

Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 26, 2011, 08:14:51 am

It's just that Carl Lewis would have agreed 'partly' with those type of methods Jay proposes. So do I.

Carl started lifting heavy towards the back end of his career & ran slower.

well, it's not like carl lewis wasn't impressive prior to utilizing "iso-like methods", he didn't make a "transformation", he always was elite.. you could correlate the lifting & running slower thing, but, it's most likely just due to age and wear & tear.. lifting was a last ditch effort i imagine, to maintain his power.

elite athletes can do all kinds of stuff and "say it works", ask air up there (AUT) how he gets his hops, he'll say "stretching". So, he would "agreed" with "stretchexpert's methods", which is pretty much just stretching and some other weak shit..

you have to look at the source, if it's an elite athlete who has always been elite or very close to it, completely "natural", then you have to be very wary of what you learn from them.. it's great to watch them move, look at how they produce force, look at how they eat, look at how they get in their 'skill/event work', but most often their actual weight room training or anything that would cause us the biggest adaptations - is severely lacking..

Air Up There has no reason to lift, unless he wants to jump higher..

Adarqui has no reason to lift, unless he wants to jump higher..

______ has no reason to lift, unless _______ wants to jump higher..

that statement covers EVERYONE, regardless of their current level.. someone like AUT could lift and eventually add some serious inches to his already insane vert, but he already jumps crazy high, elite level, so that concept doesn't even factor in.. why train so hard and increase injury risk by using progressive resistance training, when you can just go stretch & dunk and jump 50+.

pc

$ick3nin.vend3tta · « **Reply #58 on:** March 26, 2011, 11:55:04 am »

Quote from: adarqui on March 26, 2011, 09:46:44 am

well, it's not like carl lewis wasn't impressive prior to utilizing "iso-like methods", he didn't make a "transformation", he always was elite.. you could correlate the lifting & running slower thing, but, it's most likely just due to age and wear & tear.. lifting was a last ditch effort i imagine, to maintain his power.

No doubt he was genetically gifted & fast from a young age, but there still was a lot of progression to be had. He wasn't running 9.8's from the get-go.

I guess in this instance there is more than one way to skin a cat. We saw that with his rivalry with Linford Christie. Two differing training methods.

I think Linford was pushing 700lbs+ in the squat.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54KyNxKi2EY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54KyNxKi2EY</a>

adarqui · « **Reply #59 on:** March 26, 2011, 03:10:38 pm »

carl lewis was on roids................ that was his "progressive resistance routine".. he's failed tests, coverups, people close to him made claims, etc.

:/

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