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is bragging about box jump numbers stupid?

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2010, 01:49:08 pm »
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look at his hips,they only raise a few inches

yup, nothing to brag about.. bragging about sloppy box jumps bugs me so much, i need to get a life.

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2010, 05:56:08 pm »
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hardcore, brah.
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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2010, 06:24:58 pm »
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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2010, 04:44:25 am »
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the box jump mentality :D pretty funny..

[04:40am] ssr7: lol i don't even like joe defranco
[04:40am] adarq: which they all end up sacrificing
[04:40am] adarq: ya im not a defranco fan
[04:40am] ssr7: he told me that if my box jump improves then my vert would
[04:41am] ssr7: during my stay there (7 weeks)my box jump went up 6 inches
[04:41am] adarq: LOL
[04:41am] ssr7: but my vert dropped
[04:41am] adarq: LOL
[04:41am] adarq: LOL
[04:41am] adarq: thats HILARIOUS
[04:41am] adarq: can i log that into the box jump thread
[04:41am] ssr7: lol yeah dude
[04:41am] adarq: i mean its hilarious that he said if box jump improves vert would

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2010, 07:23:23 pm »
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check how he holds onto the box, shit is funny..

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtDwySv8V0M" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtDwySv8V0M</a>

massive hip flexibility

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2010, 07:48:01 pm »
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Box jumps aren't stupid Adarqui, they can be a very useful training tool. BRAGGING about your box jump on the other hand, now that is f*#king stupid.

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2010, 11:13:42 pm »
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Well, they are useful up to a certain extent, nearly as useful as repeated standing vertical jumps, but with less of a training effect due to the encouragement of incomplete hip extension to hurry and pull the feet up, and the extremely low eccentric landing forces.  You can watch video after video of people performing high box jumps, and more times than not, they are pulling the knees up before they reach complete triple extension.  But if someone were to want to work on rfd with low impact forces, teach landing skills at a low level, etc. they can be beneficial.  They are not a valid test of jumping ability in any way, and very low eccentric forces involved make them a lower intensity training technique.  

  The issue I have with box jumps is when people are jumping on extremely high boxes, believing they are training their jumping ability, when in reality they could cut the box height in half, step off it and do a depth jump, and get 100000000000 times the training effect they are looking for.
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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2010, 02:52:24 am »
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Well, they are useful up to a certain extent, nearly as useful as repeated standing vertical jumps, but with less of a training effect due to the encouragement of incomplete hip extension to hurry and pull the feet up, and the extremely low eccentric landing forces.  You can watch video after video of people performing high box jumps, and more times than not, they are pulling the knees up before they reach complete triple extension.  But if someone were to want to work on rfd with low impact forces, teach landing skills at a low level, etc. they can be beneficial.  They are not a valid test of jumping ability in any way, and very low eccentric forces involved make them a lower intensity training technique.  

  The issue I have with box jumps is when people are jumping on extremely high boxes, believing they are training their jumping ability, when in reality they could cut the box height in half, step off it and do a depth jump, and get 100000000000 times the training effect they are looking for.

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2010, 01:06:48 pm »
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lol, this is great im dying laughing at this. I can give you a good example of myself. last summer I increased my box jump from 44-46ish to 52 inches, effin' sweet right? yeah well in that same period my standing vertical only went from 23 to 25 ...fuck

honestly i think the only thing i'd use a box for now is to ease the landing of a depth jump

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2010, 04:32:25 am »
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lol, this is great im dying laughing at this. I can give you a good example of myself. last summer I increased my box jump from 44-46ish to 52 inches, effin' sweet right? yeah well in that same period my standing vertical only went from 23 to 25 ...fuck

8 inches vs 2 inches, big difference.. that's the thing, alot of box jumping is just:
- improved hip flexibility
- reduced inhibition specific to the movement

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honestly i think the only thing i'd use a box for now is to ease the landing of a depth jump

depth jump, depth drop, standing on top of it and yelling "on top of the world mothrfu@#!$!@%r!@$!@"

:)

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2010, 09:08:49 am »
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honestly i think the only thing i'd use a box for now is to ease the landing of a depth jump

depth jump, depth drop, standing on top of it and yelling "on top of the world mothrfu@#!$!@%r!@$!@"

I do that a lot on my toilet seat
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All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2010, 10:53:51 am »
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Lmao about this thread, i feel the same way, its that stupid west side craze that sucks everyone in to thinking box jumps are the be all to end all vert training exercise. Doing box jumps is what stuffed my back up for another 2 months, landing in such an unctrolled fashion(barely ever do you land on the balls of your feet, usually your whole foot all at once-which sends so much force through your body), with a massive flexed back, cant be good at all.

lol i got so sucked into this fad that i even contemplated going to clark rubber to get mats to put on my 30inch table to increast the heigh.
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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2010, 12:46:42 pm »
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Yeah it's stupid... they rarely are used for what they're actually good for.
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All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2010, 02:48:25 pm »
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Lmao about this thread, i feel the same way, its that stupid west side craze that sucks everyone in to thinking box jumps are the be all to end all vert training exercise. Doing box jumps is what stuffed my back up for another 2 months, landing in such an unctrolled fashion(barely ever do you land on the balls of your feet, usually your whole foot all at once-which sends so much force through your body), with a massive flexed back, cant be good at all.

ya, sometimes i think louie simmons is trolling... built a good rep, then decided to preach about some dumb shit like box jumps & kneeling lifts being "amazing".. i think i hate kneeling lifts more than box jumps :)

KNEELING POWER CLEANS
KNEELING SNATCH
KNEELING BOX JUMPS <-- ok i hate those more than anything because they combine the two.

powerlifters love box jumps, crossfitters love box jumps & kneeling oly's & kipups.

i just realized crossfit bugs the shit out of me, they love box jumps, kneeling oly's, and kipups.. all 3 of which i created threads about.

ok i don't mind crossfit, but it's funny that they utilize those 3 exercises so heavily.


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lol i got so sucked into this fad that i even contemplated going to clark rubber to get mats to put on my 30inch table to increast the heigh.

ahaahahah that is bad  :o

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