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attempting to max out at least once a week
« on: March 14, 2013, 08:22:49 pm »
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doing working sets is good.  but why are some of you so adamantly against attempting to max out 1RM.  what is the logic behind it?
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Re: attempting to max out at least once a week
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2013, 09:44:11 pm »
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You just found out why you're getting stuck and keep getting pinned.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: attempting to max out at least once a week
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2013, 11:49:12 am »
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a max set is a working set. not sure who you're saying is against working up to a 1RM. i'm doing that right now every workout and loving it. kf does it almost every single day. but there's a difference between trying to hit absolute PR's every day, which is a huge drain on CNS, and working up to a max that you can handle.
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Re: attempting to max out at least once a week
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2013, 02:09:38 pm »
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In other words - a difference between a daily max and a true, psyche-out max.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: attempting to max out at least once a week
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2013, 08:02:35 pm »
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The training max should have very little grind correct?
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highest touch= top of the square, which is 11'4

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Re: attempting to max out at least once a week
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2013, 08:09:59 pm »
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Well yeah, pretty much. It should be very difficult but not at the level where you need to psyche out and burn on the CNS a ton in order to complete that rep.

The idea is to stimulate, not to annihilate. When you psyche out you overload the CNS and you're going to need a ton of recovery time to get back to your old self. A daily max is just a hard rep but nothing so hard that you can't recover from pretty quickly.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: attempting to max out at least once a week
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2013, 10:59:48 pm »
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Hey be optimistic - there's still time!
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: attempting to max out at least once a week
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2013, 08:33:50 pm »
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The training max should have very little grind correct?

grind as in how smooth upward motion is?

Yeah none of those 5 second slow grinders... The rep should slow down a little but not enough to allow a grind
Goal

windmill consistently/ touch top of the square consistently



weight= 193
height= 6'3 1/2
highest touch= top of the square, which is 11'4