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adidas Adi Power at 200$ vs. Powerlift Trainer at 90$
« on: December 28, 2012, 05:39:28 am »
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http://www.eastbay.com/product/model:178808/sku:24382/adidas-adi-power-weight-lift-mens/red/white/?cm=searchmenstrainingshoes

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http://www.eastbay.com/product/model:167265/sku:46532/adidas-powerlift-trainer-mens/grey/black/?cm=searchmenstrainingshoes#sku=456300

We've had this discussion before but there's such a big price difference and the question is, for my level (and even if I get over 2x in the squat) - should I really go with 200$ for the power weight lift shoes or should I go with 90$ for the powerlift trainer shoes? Is it that big of a difference?

I mean if I squatted all my life in running shoes and basketball shoes... does it really matter if I go with this or the other? It should still help, even if the heel is softer for the cheaper shoe.

The question is if it will allow me to squat narrow and get these sucky quads to grow.

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Shoes run true to size . Feel great, look great and preform great . I bought these for ATG squats and just started SMOLOV with them . For people saying the heel is not hard enough and compresses, They must of bought a different shoe! These are a great shoe for oly lifts if one cannot afford the upper $ ones . Highly recommend!
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« Last Edit: December 28, 2012, 05:49:33 am by Raptor »
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: adidas Adi Power at 200$ vs. Powerlift Trainer at 90$
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2012, 05:52:52 am »
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You already know what I will say - adi powers all the way. Reasoning is they're a proper lifting shoe, if you pick the right size you will use it for years and years to come.

Chances are with the powerlift trainers if you get them, they'll eventually need replacing in the short to medium term and you'll have to buy another pair or some other shoe.

tldr: buy once, buy good.
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Re: adidas Adi Power at 200$ vs. Powerlift Trainer at 90$
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2012, 06:03:50 am »
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Yeah I know. If I miss on the size though I'm fucked. If they don't fit me after I pay 200$ that's a disaster.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: adidas Adi Power at 200$ vs. Powerlift Trainer at 90$
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2012, 06:05:50 am »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ademAENrtJQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ademAENrtJQ</a>
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: adidas Adi Power at 200$ vs. Powerlift Trainer at 90$
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2012, 06:07:34 am »
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You can get a real good idea of fitting by googlign around for reviews. People will say they're such and such dress size and how well the wl shoe fit them. If you like be conservative and supposing they're slightly roomier than you prefer, you can wear thicker socks or something. As long as you dont get one that's too tight, i wudnt worry too much about them. My preference is to wear my shoes kinda loose these days after stalking KF/vag conversation a few weeks back.
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Re: adidas Adi Power at 200$ vs. Powerlift Trainer at 90$
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2012, 06:10:25 am »
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Yeah, of course.

By the way - they say that you should "bake" them in the oven for a while so that they fit your foot form. Not sure about that one.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: adidas Adi Power at 200$ vs. Powerlift Trainer at 90$
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2012, 06:13:08 am »
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I know you've been asked before, but is that the only shoe you can get from there? There are tonnes of half decent budget oly shoes these days. I would try to find a pair of ristos, pretty cheap and well rated.
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Re: adidas Adi Power at 200$ vs. Powerlift Trainer at 90$
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2012, 06:16:04 am »
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Nope, just these two. Remember, I don't live in the USA.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: adidas Adi Power at 200$ vs. Powerlift Trainer at 90$
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2012, 06:19:42 am »
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Also found these:

http://www.eastbay.com/product/model:181078/sku:88180/reebok-crossfit-oly-u-form-mens/black/red/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH

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« Last Edit: December 28, 2012, 06:21:33 am by Raptor »
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: adidas Adi Power at 200$ vs. Powerlift Trainer at 90$
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2012, 06:24:38 am »
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btw have you tried using leather dress shoes with a hard heel....
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Re: adidas Adi Power at 200$ vs. Powerlift Trainer at 90$
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2012, 06:26:03 am »
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I've used boots when squatting... they do help, especially since the boots usually have SOME elevation in the heel and they are pretty sturdy... but they're not enough.

I think I'm going to go with the Adi Powers though.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: adidas Adi Power at 200$ vs. Powerlift Trainer at 90$
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2012, 06:27:30 am »
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i dunno about boots man.. they probably limit rom at the ankle.

Adi powers is the best choice out of the two options you've given though.
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Re: adidas Adi Power at 200$ vs. Powerlift Trainer at 90$
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2012, 07:18:11 am »
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Raptor, germany ships to romania right?

www.strengthshop.de
www.nerlinger.com

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Re: adidas Adi Power at 200$ vs. Powerlift Trainer at 90$
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2012, 08:34:43 am »
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Raptor, germany ships to romania right?

www.strengthshop.de
www.nerlinger.com

Thanks but let me rephrase it: I will ONLY get those that are on eastbay.com. I can't be bothered to go to customs houses and postal offices and pay 234234832943482349 $ more for shipping and shit like that.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: adidas Adi Power at 200$ vs. Powerlift Trainer at 90$
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2012, 08:52:34 am »
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Re choice : I generally agree with entropy, buy once , buy good. My choice would be the good one too. But in case you are broke, if the 110$ make a real difference in your budget, fuck it, get the powerlifts, they will be much better than kobes. Also, from what Lance said, compressing heel starts making a real difference in the high-300 lbs loads. Discussed it with a dude in my gym too, he wears romaleos 2 and squats with perfect form 180kg full / 220kg legit half. He said he doesn't see a real difference from sneakers below 150kg. To further contradict myself and confuse you, i saw a huge difference even in empty bar squats, but i had serious form issues before while you don't. Also, that doesn't mean i wouldn't see that difference with the powerlifts too.
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Re size: what entropy said , search a lot of reviews, get the average report on size, whenever i used that getting online shoes i got perfect fit.

Re sources : i told you again that there are some options in german and english ebay. Germany and England are EU members so there is no custom involved. I am not aware of your laws but it should be the same there. Shipping fee is not that much , mine was like 20 euros and it was UK to Greece , Germany to Romania should be cheaper.
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Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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