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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #300 on: October 04, 2017, 09:39:04 am »
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04-10-17

Morning BW: 73.9kg [woopwoop]

Notes

Has been and will be a busy day so I shall probably not get a workout in. Have been offered a full time job doing stuff I would actually want to do, which is kinda hype. I think when it starts up I will try to do workouts in the morning before I head to the gym so I can have my evenings free. We shall see. Exciting...

Biceps are quite sore today. They're never sore. I guess I haven't done fully supinated curls for ages, and haven't done the super heavy/low reps scheme either for a while, so it makes sense. Aiming to finish this week <83.2kg.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #301 on: October 05, 2017, 06:43:03 am »
+1
05-10-17

Morning BW: 73.5kg

Workout

Squat
Bar x Lots
40 x 5
60 x 5
82.5 x 5
95 x 5
107.5 x 8 [nice! depth a bit suspect on first few reps, but I get into it and sank the last 4. I think it's just a matter of getting used to having heavier weights on my back. That'll come with the next phase of training. Anyway, 8 reps @ almost 1.5xBW is nice]

Bench
Bar x 10
40 x 5
60 x 3
72.5 x 5 x 5 [at last! last rep on sets 4 and 5 were real grinders, should probably keep load as is for next week]

Chinups
BW x 5
+25 x 4 x 4 [ooof, hard, really felt my lats going here]

Lateral Raise
10 x 13, 13, 13

V-Grip Cable Row [much pithier name for neutral+narrow grip, haha]
68 x 8
61 x 12

Preacher Curls
27.5 x 10, 8
20 x 18

Straight Bar Pushdown
28.75 x 12, 12
18.75 x 22

Notes

Still sore in lats and legs from last workout, so with that in mind I am pretty pleased with this workout. Got to be mentally stronger under the bar. I think barbell rows are doing very good things for me.

Tomorrow should be chill so I really want to make it to the track.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #302 on: October 06, 2017, 10:21:34 am »
+1
06-10-17

Morning BW: 73.4kg

Workout

Jog to park - 1mi in 9:57

Sprint 3 x 15-20m

Jumps - 5 max effort SVJs and 5 max effort RVJs
SVJs felt weak, not surprising given I pushed a heavy squat set yesterday. RVJs felt fucking excellent, though, getting to wrist on backboard. This stumpy unreactive goof should be touching the rim (~31") by the end of the cut+with more jump practice.

Fartleks? Tempo? Idk what you want to call the cardio part of this workout, but here's what I did:

Jog 400m / Run 100m
Jog 300m / Run 100m
Jog 200m / Run 100m
Jog 100m / Run 100m
Jog 100m / Run 100m
Jog 200m / Run 100m
Jog 300m / Run 100m
Jog 400m / Run 100m

Jogs were ~9:30 mile pace, 100s were in 19-21s (so ~5:20-30 mile pace). Slower for the first few reps, faster for the last few.

Jog .75mi home in 8:21, walk the rest.

Notes

I really enjoyed that interval workout. Jogging for the rests is way more fun than walking. I kind of wanted to do a longer run for the workout today, but decided to get to the park and jump first. Came up with the interval thing on the fly and had a lot of fun with it. Adarqui, what do you think of it?
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #303 on: October 06, 2017, 10:56:05 am »
+1
06-10-17

Morning BW: 73.4kg

Workout

Jog to park - 1mi in 9:57

Sprint 3 x 15-20m

Jumps - 5 max effort SVJs and 5 max effort RVJs
SVJs felt weak, not surprising given I pushed a heavy squat set yesterday. RVJs felt fucking excellent, though, getting to wrist on backboard. This stumpy unreactive goof should be touching the rim (~31") by the end of the cut+with more jump practice.

Fartleks? Tempo? Idk what you want to call the cardio part of this workout, but here's what I did:

Jog 400m / Run 100m
Jog 300m / Run 100m
Jog 200m / Run 100m
Jog 100m / Run 100m
Jog 100m / Run 100m
Jog 200m / Run 100m
Jog 300m / Run 100m
Jog 400m / Run 100m

Jogs were ~9:30 mile pace, 100s were in 19-21s (so ~5:20-30 mile pace). Slower for the first few reps, faster for the last few.

Jog .75mi home in 8:21, walk the rest.

Notes

I really enjoyed that interval workout. Jogging for the rests is way more fun than walking. I kind of wanted to do a longer run for the workout today, but decided to get to the park and jump first. Came up with the interval thing on the fly and had a lot of fun with it. Adarqui, what do you think of it?

even before you asked what i think, i was going to comment, "good sh*t!!". solid session. I really like it, you hit some good paces on the 100's then backed off and just got in some light running, that's a good formula for where you are at right now.. you could definitely go harder right now, but there's more risk of just getting crazy sore/overdoing it.. so I like that workout alot.

how were you by the end of the interval workout?

as for long runs, you can do something similar to what I did today, maybe once a week for now just to see how you like it.. relaxed pace until drop off. So, you AREG it. For you that looks like you'd be hitting those 9:30-9:45's very light, just relaxing, and keeping the same pace until your body says "no mas" -> you get slower at the same effort level. It's interesting to see how you become slower without any noticeable change in form, effort, etc. This is probably a "safer" technique for getting in some distance work, since you're not "overcoming the fatigue" to maintain your pace, instead you're just maintaining effort and letting the pace become whatever, stopping once a mile/km split becomes outlier slow. IMHO it's really enjoyable too.

also, speed play/fartlek's etc are very solid because to me, it's approaching running more as a skill than some scientific endeavor. To run good, one has to be efficient across a wide variety of paces/distances/rest intervals/etc.. so speed play workouts and such are really effective. As you get better, they just naturally get a bit longer/more intense. These elites do like 20-25km of fartlek's etc hah. Kenyan training is huge on fartlek's, they do them alot, 30s on/30s off, 2 minutes on/30s off etc, in huge groups with people trying to take the lead.. but they dial it back on the rest periods afaik. Same with what I read of Mo Farah's training @ Oregon project, alot of times you see they do like 25 x 200m with 100m jog rest, but that 100m is like the slowest jog you've ever seen. So many different techniques, the key in the end becomes being good at lots of different protocols & really focusing on staying loose & relaxed, even for the speed segments. That's the most impressive thing to me with these elite middle/long distance runners, how relaxed they are while hitting insane paces.

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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #304 on: October 06, 2017, 11:13:04 am »
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btw, "relax" is basically the only cue I use anymore.. rarely i'll use "get off the ground faster" and occasionally i'll use this new one I learned from some Kenyan coaching instagram "rear wheel drive" (if I find myself forcing my knees up, prior to that i'd just say "stop forcing your knees up!!") .. but "relax" has been the best cue for me, no matter what i'm doing, if it's slow light runs, fast intervals, fast runs, "relax relax relax.." is always the thing that loosens me up in the midst of it.

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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #305 on: October 06, 2017, 11:28:27 am »
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Ah, awesome! Thanks for the feedback  :highfive:

I felt really good at the end of the intervals! Jogging home wasn't much fun, but I could have kept going forever, had to force myself to walk for cooldown. Was actually a pretty easy workout.

I like the long run formula you did today, haha, was going to comment to say as much in your thread.

Re cues -- the only thing I ever use for myself, other than relax as you say, is to just pay attention to my glutes. Feel like I go a fair bit faster at the same effort when I'm actively using them.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #306 on: October 06, 2017, 12:13:11 pm »
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Ah, awesome! Thanks for the feedback  :highfive:

I felt really good at the end of the intervals! Jogging home wasn't much fun, but I could have kept going forever, had to force myself to walk for cooldown. Was actually a pretty easy workout.

I like the long run formula you did today, haha, was going to comment to say as much in your thread.

hah cool!

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Re cues -- the only thing I ever use for myself, other than relax as you say, is to just pay attention to my glutes. Feel like I go a fair bit faster at the same effort when I'm actively using them.

is it sustainable though? or do you want to sustain it - manually active for longer distances? that's the only thing that has me questioning it. i've messed with stuff like that and, I end up discarding it, because it's not something *I* have found to be sustainable for many miles, or at peak performance / competition setting. So, instead of cueing that, i'd probably go the activation route pre-running, or utilize different drills where I focus on that - ie stiff leg shuffling/stiff leg bounds. But then, i'd just let my body do what it does when running.

btw do you know if you go faster or not? in my experience, I actually go slower. I've experimented with it, and when I force extension, my stride frequency ends up dropping slightly and I don't get as much of a stride length increase to compensate/over compensate for it, so my pace ends up actually getting slower, especially as the run goes on.

i'd just verify it with your watch etc, maybe experimenting with some longer intervals of using it vs not using it (~400m), but maybe in separate sessions, not sure.

one of the things you don't want to end up doing is getting a bit more "artificial float" which slows you down, more time in the air without it being beneficial .. ie picture someone next to you who doesn't float, who gets their foot down as you're coming down. So that's just the caution with "forcing something" vs natural mechanics.

i find that "manually activating" pretty much anything messes *me* up.. even manually pumping arms harder, literally. I've gone through manually activating glutes, arms, calves, dorsiflexion, upper back, arch in back, hamstrings, leg swing, recovery leg, knee drive etc.. and i've thrown it all away.. lmfao!

but ya regardless, if it's working that's good.. just make sure it's really working AND it's sustainable for longer distances etc.

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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #307 on: October 07, 2017, 03:49:58 am »
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07-10-17

Morning BW: 72.9kg

Waist: 31.75"

Notes

No training today, feeling a bit rough after a heavy night out. I'm fairly dehydrated, but I was definitely in a deficit regardless (tracked carefully), so I'll call that a success. Am out and about the net couple days, but hopefully will have time to hit the gym tomorrow evening, though I think the gym closes quite early on Sunday. If I don't get to lift I'll just get in another track session and lift Monday, not ideal but it is what it is.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #308 on: October 09, 2017, 03:18:24 am »
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09-10-17

Morning BW: 72.9kg

Workout

Deadlift
60 x 5
80 x 5
105 x 5
125 x 5
135 x 3 [blarg]

OHP
Bar x 5
40 x 3
50 x 5
47.5 x 5, 5, 5

Wide Grip Pullups
BW x 15, 12, 10  :personal-record:

Dips
BW x 18, 16, 13

Hammer Curls
14 x 14, 11
12 x 14

Notes

7am fasted workout without caffeine. Start work full time today so gonna have to get used to this sort of workout. Unsurprisingly somewhat weaker than usual.  15 pullups is a nice PR, not deadhang though. I'll work on that.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #309 on: October 09, 2017, 09:11:44 am »
+1
big ups on the job you actually wanted.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #310 on: October 13, 2017, 06:31:07 pm »
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Work is tiring, sedentary and stressful. Haven't trained since Monday. Diet has sucked/stress overeating. Sleep schedule all messed up. Will get this under control and get back in a rhythm soon, don't want to have wasted my effort.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #311 on: October 16, 2017, 03:17:29 am »
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16-10-17

Squat
Bar x 6
40 x 5
60 x 4
80 x 3
102.5 x 3, 3, 3, 3

Bench
Bar x 10
40 x 6
60 x 4
72.5 x 3, 3, 3, 3

Chins
BWx5
+20 x 4, 4, 4

V-Grip Cable Row
61 x 10, 10

Notes

Jettisoning the end of 5/3/1 to shift to the high freq plan. I just need to get mroe reps in at waking up early and working out, so am gonna force the issue. Probably set myself back a week or two with not training and eating like shit this last week, but that's okay, lesson learnt.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #312 on: October 16, 2017, 03:45:50 am »
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work stressful already? no honeymoon period? uh oh.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #313 on: October 16, 2017, 10:18:05 am »
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In this period, since it's not going as smoothly as anticipated, might just want to freestyle things a bit for a few weeks, with the sole focus of getting in brief sessions consistently, and making sure those sessions don't compound your fatigue etc. So the higher frequency stuff but, not as strict/dedicated *yet*, just more of an emphasis on getting in some consistent work while breaking in to this new work schedule. Once those worlds are combined, boom.

Also, as far as sedentary goes.. is a standing desk a possible solution? If so, it can really help.. especially for people like us.

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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #314 on: October 25, 2017, 10:25:09 pm »
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yo! how's it going? :/