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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2100 on: April 16, 2014, 01:33:14 pm »
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put a backpack on and go for a vigorous walk outside? much less boring.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2101 on: April 17, 2014, 07:10:41 am »
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Yeah, could be interesting. Still, tempos are much more time-efficient, they don't tax much and you get some extra training benefits compared to LISS cardio.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2102 on: April 17, 2014, 05:02:17 pm »
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17 April 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~88kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : tweaked/pulled left shoulder still there

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
5@20kg
5@40kg
3@60kg
2@80kg
1@90kg , speed rep
1@100kg , easy
1@110kg , hard but not 1RM
½@120kg , FFFUUUUU
-Failed 120kg, when i reached at half-squat depth i felt it was too heavy to go full, so i reversed it.
I guess real 1RM is 115kg. I'll take it  :-[

HORIZONTAL LEG PRESS CALVES 'RAISES':
10@400lbs
10@450lbs
8@495lbs
-Working weight established (450lbs). Gonna be advancing 10lbs whenever i reach 3x10, then when i reach stack (495) do 3xF.

SUPERSET x 2 rounds:
BICEPS DB CURLS: 10@16kg each hand
TRICEPS ROPE PUSHDOWNS: 10@25kg ( +2,5kg )
-Very strong, was good for more.

Didn't do dips & chins as planned to give shoulder some recovery space.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2103 on: April 18, 2014, 09:13:12 am »
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I am going to do this ( quoted from  www.higher-faster-sports.com/periodizationmadesimple.html ) :

Quote
Phase I - Focus:  Strength (3 weeks)
Session A:
Depth jump: 2 x 10 from low box (use a box height you can easily rebound off and on, almost like a jump rope)
Jump squat: 2 x 8 @15% of max or 45 lb bar
Squat: 5 x 6 (add weight for first 3 sets, maintain it the last 2)

Session B:
Depth jump: 2 x 10 from low box
Jump squat: 2 x 8@15% of max or 45 lb bar
Squat: 8 x 1 @ 90% (add weight the 1st 4-5 sets working up to heavy but solid form single. Reduce the weight by 10% and perform 3-4 more sets of 1)

Phase II - Focus: General explosiveness (2 weeks)
Session A:
Depth jump 2 x 10 from medium box
Rhythmic 1/4 Jump squat 6 x 5 with 15, 20, 25, 30, 20, 15% of max.
Squat: 6 x 1@90% of 1rm]

Session B:
Depth jump 2 x 10 from medium box
Rhythmic 1/4 jump squat 6 x 5 with 15, 20, 25, 30, 20 & 15% of max.
Explosive squat 6 x 2 @ 60% of max squat

Phase III – Focus:  Reactive/plyometric ability (2 weeks)
Session A:
Depth jump 4 x 5 from high box
Jump Squat 2 x 5 with 15%
Half Squat: 6 x 1-3 @ 85%

Session B:
Depth jump 4 x 5 from medium box

Session C:
Depth jump 4 x 5 from high box
Jump squat  2 x 5 with 15%
Squat 3 x 3 with 5 rm

Phase IV - Peak (2 weeks)
Session A:
depth jump 2 x 10 low box
Half Squat: 2 x 5 complexed with jump squat:
Jump squat 2 x 5 with 15%

Session B:
Jumps for max height

I love this program, ideal time for me to do it, perfect transition from weights to jumps.
Lasts 9 weeks as written, gonna have me at peak around mid June. Might give one extra week on the 2-week phases II and III.
I will also most probably substitute jump squats with jump snatches, much more convenient without changing something too much.
Upon further inspection, i will stick with jump squats because later in the program they change to rhythmic, which i cant resemble with snatches.

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« Last Edit: April 30, 2014, 06:16:12 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2104 on: April 18, 2014, 09:39:17 am »
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so where do you fit in the actual RVJs?
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2105 on: April 18, 2014, 06:54:52 pm »
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Heh, i knew someone would ask about that. I didnt type the jumps/sprints/upper schedule, only quoted the lower body program as kellyb has it.

Well, it will be pretty similar to now. Thursdays is bball day, gonna be doing one tempos&jumps session on Tuesday and one on Saturday before the weights.
As the program progresses the bball season is gonna end so it will be replaced with another tempos&jumps session, maybe rearrange some things to prioritize jumps too. Of course the whole thing will be AREGed constantly.

So for starters it will go like:

Monday : upper body + calves

Tuesday : tempos + jumps

Wednesday : Session B ( low volume squats ) - beachwork - abs

Tuesday : bball

Friday : rest

Saturday : tempos + jumps + session A + upper + abs + calves

Sunday : rest

Day 1 is actually Saturday. It is planned this way based on the days that it is convenient for me to workout, plus being fresh for bball. So i am putting the session B ( which is less taxing ) the day before bball and the session A ( volume day ) on saturdays. I dont use mondays for lower body because saturdays-wednesdays have good gap between. Finaly , the calves are put on monday where i have no legs and not on Wednesday, again for being fresher for bball. Best jumps are expected on saturdays.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2106 on: April 21, 2014, 03:36:35 pm »
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21 April 2014

Bodyweight@session : forgot to check
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches :  none

SPRINTS & JUMPS SESSION

-500m jog

-10' dynamic warmup

TEMPO RUNS:
5x80m @ 80%
3 mins rest
5@80m @ 80%
-It was run ~15 seconds - walk 45 seconds - restart.

5 minutes rest

ME SPRINTS
1x80m : 12.2
3 minutes rest
1x80m : 12.0
3 minutes rest
1x80m : 12.2
-Used toddday's stopwatch measuring method. Feels like traction is the limiting factor to go faster. No shit!
Gonna go do them on grass next time to see if it's better.

Then did a bunch of rim jumps but they were totally off, legs constantly deny to cooperate for jumps after ME sprints.

Overall not bad after the past days (Easter) food and drink brutality.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2107 on: April 22, 2014, 04:14:54 am »
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Body composition measurements:

Net morning weight : 87kg / 191,5lbs
Waist : 90cm / 35,4''

Online bodyfat estimation : 17.2%
BI scale bodyfat estimation : 16.9%
AVERAGE bodyfat estimation : 17.05%

Previous:
Net morning weight : 87kg / 191,5lbs
Waist : 91cm / 35,8''

Online bodyfat estimation : 18%
BI scale bodyfat estimation : 17.2%
AVERAGE bodyfat estimation : 17.6%

Finally, some good news. BW is the same however. I was very strict with diet past week till the weekend, maybe weight was 86=sth and it shot back up with Easter food and drink brutality.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2108 on: April 22, 2014, 04:58:10 pm »
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22 April 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~88,5kg , fake BW, drunk a ton of water before gym
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

Kelly Baggett's simple periodization routine

PHASE I , Week 1/3

Session B:

9'' DEPTH JUMPS:
2x10
-Surprisingly good. Smooth, bouncy, high. Expected much worse.

JUMP SQUATS ( not rhythmic, reset each rep ):
8@20kg
8@20kg
-First set bad, second good.

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
1@95kg
1@100kg
1@105kg
1@110kg
1@100kg
1@100kg
1@100kg
1@100kg
-Nice, 100kg is now a normal load.

BENCH PRESS:
7@65kg ( +2 reps )
7@65kg ( +1 rep )
-Weak as always.

WIDE GRIP LAT PULLDOWN:
7@200lbs , ties all time 7RM  :personal-record:
7@200lbs , ( +1 rep ) , ties all time 7RM  :personal-record:
-Strong as always.

PAUSED STANDING CALVES RAISES:
20@50kg
20@50kg
20@50kg ( +1 rep )
-Got my 3x20,FINALLY!

SEATED WEIGHTED CRUNCHES MACHINE:
Forgot them , FFFFUUUUU
« Last Edit: April 30, 2014, 06:20:05 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2109 on: April 23, 2014, 02:55:59 pm »
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23 April 2014

Bodyweight@session : forgot to check
Soreness : quads and hamstrings, mostly VMOs
Injuries/aches :  none

SPRINTS & JUMPS SESSION

-10' dynamic warmup

TEMPO RUNS:
5x80m @ 80%
5x80m @ 80%
5x80m @ 80%
-45 seconds between reps - 3 minutes between sets

ME SPRINTS
JUMPS
It is bball dau tomorrow so preferred to do a third tempos set than ME sprints and/or jumps.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2110 on: April 24, 2014, 02:18:56 pm »
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24 April 2014

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : VMOs a bit
Injuries/aches : none

1 ½ hour full court basketball
Good endurance, good vert. On the down side, heavy legs, but that was expected from previous days training. Had pop till the end though, good sign. No rim jumps to report.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2111 on: April 26, 2014, 09:19:14 am »
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26 April 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~87,5kg , 2014 low  :wowthatwasnutswtf:
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

Kelly Baggett's simple periodization routine

PHASE I , Week 1/3

Session A:

9'' DEPTH JUMPS:
2x10
-Mostly just ok, a few great ones and a few 'missfires'.

JUMP SQUATS ( not rhythmic, reset each rep ):
8@20kg
8@20kg
-Just ok, no great reps, no bad ones either.

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
6@80kg
6@85kg
6@90kg
6@90kg
6@90kg
-Very hard. Have not done volume squatting for 2 weeks and it was obvious. Bar felt light though, it was all about the volume.

DIPS:
6@BW
6@BW
6@BW
-Damn hard. I can only do 3 normal reps each set, in the others i touch my feet on the ground and then push up. I don't push up with legs at all but i can't reverse it otherwise.

CHINUPS:
8@BW+10kg , ties all time 8RM  :personal-record:
8@BW+10kg , ties all time 8RM  :personal-record:
-No way to get a 9th one up.

HORIZONTAL LEG PRESS CALVES 'RAISES':
10@450lbs
10@450lbs
8@450lbs
-Nice, i like those!
« Last Edit: April 30, 2014, 05:53:18 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2112 on: April 30, 2014, 06:06:53 am »
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29 April 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~87,75kg , PM season low  :wowthatwasnutswtf:
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

Kelly Baggett's simple periodization routine

PHASE I , Week 2/3

Session B:

9'' DEPTH JUMPS:
2x10
-Good. Better than just ok, worse than great.

JUMP SQUATS ( not rhythmic, reset each rep ):
8@20kg
8@20kg
-The same here, better than just ok, worse than great.

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
1@92,5kg ( -2,5kg )
1@102,5kg ( +2,5kg )
1@107,5kg ( +2,5kg )
1@112,5kg ( +2,5kg ) , real 1RM  :personal-record:
1@102,5kg ( +2,5kg )
1@102,5kg ( +2,5kg )
1@102,5kg ( +2,5kg )
1@102,5kg ( +2,5kg )
-Sweet. 112,5kg is the most i have EVER full squatted. I have bigger predicted 1RMs from more reps sets, but whenever i tried above 110kg lately is failed.

PAUSED STANDING CALVES RAISES:
20@55kg ( +5kg )
19@55kg ( +5kg ) , ( -1 rep )
18@55kg ( +5kg ) , ( -2 reps )
-Nice.

SEATED WEIGHTED CRUNCHES MACHINE:
20@100lbs
20@100lbs
20@100lbs

BENCH PRESS:
WIDE GRIP LAT PULLDOWN:
-Was sort on time so had to skip those, might do them today.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2113 on: May 02, 2014, 06:26:38 am »
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30 April 2014

Bodyweight@session : 87,25kg , semi-fasted, new season low. Gonna stop reporting season lows from now on, just milestones.
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches :  none

SPRINTS & JUMPS SESSION

-10' dynamic warmup

TEMPO RUNS:
5x80m @ 80%
3 mins rest
5@80m @ 80%
-Felt more like 70%. I can do 15 seconds shutdown now, that is great for my unfit old fat ass!

RIM JUMPS:
3xSVJ : all 26'' , season best!  :wowthatwasnutswtf:
3xdropstep : mostly 27'' , one 28''
3x1-step-DLRVJs : Mostly 28+, one 29'' , wrist at 9'8'' rim , season best,  :wowthatwasnutswtf:
3x2-steps-DLRVJs : all 29'' , season best :wowthatwasnutswtf:
1xfull runup DLRVJ : 29'' , season best :wowthatwasnutswtf:
2xfull runup football dunks : both clean hard dunks.
-PROGRESS!!!
:ibjumping:

Then to the gym to do upper that i missed previous day:

BENCH PRESS:
7@65kg
7@65kg
-Weak sauce.

WIDE GRIP LAT PULLDOWN:
PULLUPS:
5@BW
5@BW
5@BW
-I figured that since i reached doing 2x7@200lbs, it was about time to dump the machine and do pullups.
Turns out it is much harder to pull up my 193lbs body than pull down a bar attached to 200lbs.

SUPERSET x 2 rounds:
BICEPS DB CURLS: 10@16kg each hand
TRICEPS ROPE PUSHDOWNS: 10@25kg
-Challenging but got them, despite not doing them the previous week.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2114 on: May 02, 2014, 07:25:41 am »
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Could it be the sprints and runs?

Hhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps