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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2055 on: March 31, 2014, 02:49:09 am »
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2056 on: April 01, 2014, 04:50:53 am »
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31 March 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~89kg. Weird, i ate light and didn't feel bloated. Hope it was water
Soreness : very tight legs overall, i 'blame' the jumps.
Injuries/aches :  none

ROMANIAN DEADLIFT:
6@100kg
8@90kg
-Leg strength still there, zero back stress, but grip fell back after 3 weeks of not doing those, had to unload to get my 8s.

BB LUNGES:
8@45kg
8@45kg

BENCH PRESS:
7@62,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
7@62,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
-Must add dips somewhere for a 2nd weekly chest exercise, my bench progress is, as always, annoyingly slow.

WIDE GRIP LAT PULLDOWN:
7@190lbs ( +10 lbs ) , ( -1 rep )
7@190lbs ( +10 lbs ) , ( -1 rep )
-Nice, 1 rep shy of all time PR. Next time.

PAUSED STANDING CALVES RAISES:
20@50kg
18@50kg ( +3 reps )
16@50kg ( +1 rep )

WEIGHTED CRUNCHES MACHINE
20@100lbs
20@100lbs
20@100lbs
« Last Edit: April 01, 2014, 08:15:54 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2057 on: April 01, 2014, 02:38:44 pm »
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1 April 2014

Bodyweight@session : 89kg , again???  :pissed:
Soreness : quads still tight, hamstrings and glutes sore
Injuries/aches :  none

SPRINTS & JUMPS SESSION

-10' dynamic warmup

TEMPO RUNS:
5x50m @ 80%
3 mins rest
5@80m @ 80%
-Was starting every minute in both sets. Movement efficiency not there of course. I was going 80% but felt i would trip if i pushed more.

ME JUMPING:
SVJ : 24'' to 25''
Dropstep : 26'' to 27''
1-step DLRVJ : 27'' to 27,5''
2-steps DLRVJ : 27'', one ~28,5''
-A bit lower average than Saturday. Damn, and i thought it was as low as it gets. Tied best height though.
Supposedly won the right to do full runup DLRVJs but legs felt too tired by then so called it a day. No rush.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2058 on: April 03, 2014, 04:33:59 am »
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2 April 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~88,5kg, a drop finally
Soreness : quads, hamstrings, glutes, calves, abductors
Injuries/aches :  shin splints

lol, sprints and jumps destroyed me, everything hurts!

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT ( MSEM ):
4x1@90kg ( -5 kg ) , ( +1 rep )
4x1@100kg ( +1 rep )
-Decided to go lighter on the 1st set to get more speed-strength out of it. Gonna keep this setup and try to add 2,5kg in both sets every week.
Squats were finally very good today. Despite the overall wrecked legs, 100kg singles were tight, very good speed and form. Nice!

SEATED NEUTRAL GRIP DB OHP:
8@18kg each hand ( +2 kg )
8@18kg each hand ( +2 kg )
-Nice.

SUPERSET:
BICEPS DB CURLS: 10@14kg each hand
TRICEPS ROPE PUSHDOWNS: 10@20kg
-2 rounds
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2059 on: April 03, 2014, 04:37:29 am »
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Keep up with the sprints... in fact, I would make them a priority if I was you. They have so much potential of teaching you how to "lock" your muscles quickly and efficiently... not to mention the explosive adaptations.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2060 on: April 03, 2014, 05:29:26 am »
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Keep up with the sprints... in fact, I would make them a priority if I was you. They have so much potential of teaching you how to "lock" your muscles quickly and efficiently... not to mention the explosive adaptations.


I would re-arrange that in a way where the plyos/jumps/sprints are being prioritized. Check out my last post in my log and see what you think.

I saw your schedule already and liked it. I agree that my setup is not optimal for fresh and/or potentiated ME jumps. I am not switching totally sprint/jump oriented yet though, this is more like a transition phase, easing back at it. In my mind i had mid May as the time to put jumps as #1 priority and setup the whole thing around them. By then i will have gotten the jumping groove back, i will have hopefully reached that 1,5*BW milestone ( yeah, pathetic, i know, but for me it is huge ) and i will have completed my cut too.



Don't forget to tell me again in another 2 weeks!  ;)
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2061 on: April 03, 2014, 06:43:20 am »
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Haha yeah... those videos of you jumping keep coming into my mind and keep reiterating how much you need this type of stimuli.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2062 on: April 03, 2014, 01:38:08 pm »
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3 April 2014

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : quads stiff and hamstrings sore but both minimal
Injuries/aches :  shin splints, much reduced too

1 ½ hour full court basketball
Nice surprise, endurance and vert very much increased. Not yet good but season best for sure. Good breaths and legs ready to sprint and/or jump throughout all the game. Even got a clean 10'5'' dropstep touch ( 30'' ) which is a season high and i was cold too. Awesome!
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2063 on: April 04, 2014, 03:12:09 pm »
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4 April 2014

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : none? just some overall legs stiffness feeling
Injuries/aches :  shin splints, even more reduced

45 minutes of stretching and foam rolling  legs.
Everything was so tight, to the point of hurting when stretched. I am such a dick, i do recovery stuff only when injured.
Must do it more often. I know in the end i won't do it but at least i am saying i must!  :pissed:
« Last Edit: April 04, 2014, 03:15:25 pm by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2064 on: April 05, 2014, 04:24:41 am »
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Body composition measurements:

Net morning weight : 88,25kg / 194,5lbs
Waist : 92cm / 36,2''

Online bodyfat estimation : 18,4%
BI scale bodyfat estimation : 17.4%
AVERAGE bodyfat estimation : 17.9%


Previous:
Net morning weight : 87,7kg / 193lbs
Waist : 92cm / 36,2''

Online bodyfat estimation : 18,6%
BI scale bodyfat estimation : 17.2%
AVERAGE bodyfat estimation : 17.9%

Whaaaaaat? In my shit-tastic cut I GAINED ~1,5lbs the last 2 weeks? While i started sprinting/jumping and got back to bball too? How is that possible, i was even a little more strict with diet. The mirror test looks a little better too. Dunno, maybe a random bloating / water retention? Must start tracking bw data more often, cant rely on bi-weekly measurements for conclusions.
At least waist stayed the same, so those 2 weeks of cutting gave a very effective bulk,  :pissed::ffffffuuuuuu:
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2065 on: April 05, 2014, 09:31:44 am »
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5 April 2014

Bodyweight@session : 88,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches :  none

SPRINTS:
3x50m@100% , best was 9 seconds.
3x80m@100% , best was 13 seconds.
-Pathetic times, even for running on dusty gravel wearing kobes.

ME JUMPS:
SVJ : ~25''
Dropstep : ~27''
1-step DLRVJ : 28'' - 28,5''
2-steps DLRVJ : 28'' - 28,5''
-Feeling more reactive but no juice, i guess the ME sprints prior to this tired me too much.

DUNKS:
3 full runup attempts at 9'6'' rim.
Landed one, back-rimed two.
Wat, WAT!
 
HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
8@90kg
7@90kg ( +1 rep )
-Very hard. Legs exhausted from sprints and jumps.

DIPS:
5@BW
5@BW
5@BW
-Wanted to do 2x8 but kept failing 6th rep so did 3 sets. 2nd time in my life doing them, couldn't expect something better.

CHINUPS:
8@BW+10kg ( +2,5kg )
7@BW+10kg ( +2,5kg ) , ( -1 rep )
-Most i have ever chined, relatively and absolutely ( previous bests were [92+5]kg absolutely and [88+7,5]kg relatively ). So yep, :personal-record:
Estimated 1RMs from 10@[92+5]kg of the past still higher though.

STANDING 'LANCE CALVES RAISES' ( explosive DL eccentric, slow SL concentric ):
10@BW+45kg each leg ( +2,5kg )
10@BW+45kg each leg ( +2,5kg )
10@BW+45kg each leg ( +2,5kg )
-Nice.

ABS COASTER MACHINE:
20@BW+7,5kg front ( +2,5kg )
20@BW+7,5kg left ( +2,5kg )
20@BW+7,5kg right ( +2,5kg )
-Nice.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2014, 09:40:58 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2066 on: April 07, 2014, 03:27:44 pm »
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7 April 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~89kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

ROMANIAN DEADLIFT:
8@95kg ( -5 kg ) , ( +2 reps )
7@95kg ( +5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
-Nice, this is the correct working load.

BB LUNGES:
DB LUNGES:
8 each leg@16kg each hand
8 each leg@16kg each hand
-Squat rack was taken so had to do them with DBs.

BENCH PRESS:
8@62,5kg ( +1 rep )
8@62,5kg ( +1 rep )
-Nice.

WIDE GRIP LAT PULLDOWN:
8@190lbs ( +1 rep ) , ties all time 8RM  :personal-record:
8@190lbs ( +1 rep ) , ties all time 8RM  :personal-record:
-Sweet!

PAUSED STANDING CALVES RAISES:
20@50kg
18@50kg
18@50kg ( +2 reps )
-Very hard again, those long pauses at top and bottom are the shit.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2067 on: April 08, 2014, 02:55:12 pm »
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8 April 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~88,5kg
Soreness : a little sore hamstrings/glutes/calves
Injuries/aches :  none

SPRINTS & JUMPS SESSION

-10' dynamic warmup

TEMPO RUNS:
5x80m @ 80%
3 mins rest
5@80m @ 80%
-It was run ~15 seconds - walk 45 seconds - restart.

4 minutes rest

ME SPRINTS
1x100m : ~16 seconds
5 minutes rest
1x150m : ~26 seconds
7 minutes rest
1x200m : ~38 seconds
-I am running on a 80x50 football field, so 100m has 1 turn, 150m and 200m have 2 turns.
I don't really care for sprint times themselves, i am using tempos & sprints to improve overall fitness and burn some fat.
I do want to track progress though, so i will be timing those every week.
T0ddday, if you are reading this, any conclusions ( besides the obvious that i am slower than an old fat tortoise ) / comments ?

5 minutes rest

ME JUMPING:
SVJ : 25,5'' , 2014 best  :highfive:
Dropstep : 28''
1-step DLRVJ : 28''
-Didn't do more steps as i could not improve. Good heights though, especially considering the ME sprints prior.
The 'voluntary force' jumps (SVJ and dropstep) felt good, the 'reactive' ones (1-step) not, could not absorb force at the plant, legs felt jello.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2014, 03:45:03 pm by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2068 on: April 08, 2014, 05:37:04 pm »
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I can't help but to think that if you're finishing the 100m in 16 seconds... you're really not giving it your all. When I sprint it's pretty much the only time (it also applies in skanderberg, for me) - when I give it my all. Everything I have. It's yet another weird thing about me. Failure in sprinting is not an option. Knowing I didn't give it my absolute best is not an option. It's really hard to explain.

So... 16 seconds sound like an eternity and sound like a submaximal sprint to me.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2069 on: April 09, 2014, 04:35:59 am »
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No , it was all out and it was 16 seconds, it just probably does not translate to a 16 seconds 100m dash on track.
Consider those sprints are:
-Hand timed.
-Standing start.
-Holding mobile on hand while running.
-Running on terribly slippery gravel.
-Even 100m includes a turn ( because of the field dimensions ), and it is not a soft oval turn, it is 90 degrees.
-Finishing time is not accurate, i either have to cut pace so i can press stop at finish line OR i just raise the phone and look at the time.

I do plan to go on track and get a stopwatch and/or video to get more accurate measurements, but it is too early for that yet, this was just the 3d time sprinting after 1 year of absence.

That is why i said i don't care about the measurements themselves. It was something around 16 seconds for something around 100m.
I am more interested about what the correlation with the other times say. ( 26s 150m - so 10s for the 100-150 and 38s 200m , so 12s for the 150-200 and 22s for the 100-200 in total ).
The inaccuracy in track-time-correspondence is still there in all those measurements, but the circumstances were the same so the relative differences can tell something about speed endurance or i don't know what...

Toddday???
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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