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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1530 on: September 11, 2012, 02:12:27 pm »
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11 September 2012

Went at the park. Shot around uptempo for bloodflow+cardio and tried out my jumping.
Got 9'8'' lefty dunks off 3 steps AND off dropstep , no quad bugging.
Got a couple 28'' SVJs ( touched thumb knuckle at 9'10'' rim ), no quad bugging either.
Attempted dropsteps and RVJs on 9'10''. Weirdness, CNS was shutting me down, it wouldn't even allow me to jump: As i was compressing in the jump stop, i would just decelerate and stop , i just couldn't push off!
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1531 on: September 11, 2012, 03:08:58 pm »
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Weirdness, CNS was shutting me down, it wouldn't even allow me to jump: As i was compressing in the jump stop, i would just decelerate and stop , i just couldn't push off!

That usually happens to me when I use a speed I'm not able to control, or when I'm tired from all the jumps I did beforehand, or both.

I just tense up and lock myself to the ground.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1532 on: September 12, 2012, 02:08:29 pm »
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12 September 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~191,5
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : left quad , much better.

Starting Strength - workout #24

ROMANIAN DEADLIFTS:
5@236,5lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
5@236,5lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
5@236,5lbs ( +5,5 lbs ) , ( +2 reps )
-I can go much heavier, i am limited by grip, i forgot gloves again.

LEG EXTENSIONS:
-Canceled, quad is healing well.

BICEPS EZ-BAR CURLS:
12@70,5 lbs ( same )
12@70,5 lbs ( same )
12@70,5 lbs ( +2 reps )
-First 2 sets very strong , last one burnout.

TRICEPS PUSHDOWNS:
12@66 lbs ( same )
12@66 lbs ( same )
12@66 lbs ( same )
-Very nice

-Must bring back stretching + foam rolling , got lazy with them this week.
-I am joining the whole milk community, GOMAD baby! Actually is LOMAD ( Liter instead of Galon ) or maybe LOL-MAD but oh well...
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1533 on: September 12, 2012, 02:31:45 pm »
+1
LOMAD for you
HIFART for me
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1534 on: September 13, 2012, 02:14:15 pm »
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^I don't wanna know what HIFART is! ;D

13 September 2012

At the park for ~1 hour. Mostly shooting around uptempo, very few jumps.
Vert was a couple inches lower today , SVJ 27-ish, dropstep 28-ish , DLRVJ 29-ish.

Then stretched the fuck out of my legs and foam rolled IT band.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1535 on: September 14, 2012, 02:22:28 pm »
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14 September 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~193,5
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : left quad , slightly

Starting Strength - workout #25

SQUATS:
5@137,5 lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
5@137,5 lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
5@137,5 lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
-Very nice. No quad bugging + good form. Gonna stay light though and slowly progress keeping form perfect as quad heals.

SEATED OHP:
5@110 lbs ( +1 rep )
4@110 lbs ( same )
5@110 lbs ( +1 rep )
-So god damn hard! 5@110 is a PR at full ROM but that doesn't count as its the 3d session ever at this ROM.

DEAD HANG CHINUPS:
8@Bodyweight ( same )
8@Bodyweight ( +1 rep )
6@Bodyweight ( +1 rep )
Total = 22 ( +2 reps )
-Steady progress here, nice.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1536 on: September 14, 2012, 02:33:15 pm »
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Good job on the chinups. And OHP too!

I might go with loaded chinups though for some neural load in them and with one additional hypertrophy-oriented machine exercise for the back... but...
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1537 on: September 15, 2012, 07:02:09 am »
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Thanks, good work but not good numbers. Gotta keep pushing.

15 September 2012

Just stretching and IT band foam rolling.
I have this feeling that the 'kellyb stretch' does a better job currently at loosening my quad. No real pain or trigger points during foam rolling. Gonna keep both anyway.

I am getting a little bored of the SS routine. Gonna keep at it too though, as i am still progressing in everything. I just get this feeling that 3x5 is a bit inadequate, since i am bulking i would like some more hypertrophy stimulus. But don't want to go to 8-reps range, i like how my body has adapted to the 3x5 scheme and i like going a bit heavier, 8 reps don't allow that.
SO, i will do those few tweaks:
-Monday's squats will be 1x5 instead of 3x5, i will be upping the weight each Monday for 1 set of 5 reps and then doing the same load on Friday for 3x5.
-As quad heals good I will bring back in HP cleans on Wednesday, as originally planned. Will be ramping up 5 sets of 3 reps in 5,5 lbs increments.
-I will add a 15 rep finisher in all 3x5 exercises except squats. That is Bench Press , Seated Rows and OHP.

Current body composition:

Net weight ( morning ) : ~190,3 lbs ( 86,5 kg )
Waist : ~35.8'' ( 91cm )

Scale bodyfat estimation : 16,2%
Online bodyfat estimation : 18,2%

I will also try to keep up with cardio on my off days ( Tuesday and Thursday ), i haven't been doing any cardio since my quad injury back in May, those will definitely help keep body composition kinda decent.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1538 on: September 15, 2012, 10:24:36 am »
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want more hypertrophy stimulus -> reduce reps on one of the workouts???
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1539 on: September 17, 2012, 04:59:23 am »
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want more hypertrophy stimulus -> reduce reps on one of the workouts???

Yeah , sounds contradictive, i didn't explain well.
My hypertrophy thoughts are about upper body only, legs feel perfectly covered with squat Mon-Fri and RDL Wed.
The squat reps reduction is a temporary change to heal my quad better. It seems that the 3x5 aggravates the injury a bit. By the next time i squat it is recovered and every week it is a bit better but i wanted to speed the recovery, its been too long. Maybe i shoud cut down the volume even more for a while, just do a 5 rep set or MSEM on squat days to avoid total detraining and see what happens.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1540 on: September 17, 2012, 02:47:59 pm »
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17 September 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~192
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : left quad?

Starting Strength - workout #26

SQUATS :
5@143 lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
-Great form, no quad bugging, resisted the temptation of doing more.

BENCH PRESS:
5@148,5 lbs ( +1 rep )
5@148,5 lbs ( +1 rep )
5@148,5 lbs ( +1 rep )
15@110lbs
-Very strong. Ties best 3x5 ever.
15 rep finisher was a killer, barely got last rep.

SEATED CHEST SUPPORTED MACHINE ROWS:
4@176 lbs ( +11 lbs ) , ( -1 rep )
4@176 lbs ( +11 lbs ) , ( -1 rep )
4@176 lbs ( +11 lbs ) , ( -1 rep )
13@132 lbs
-Very strong but the 11lbs minimum jump is too much.
132 lbs was too heavy for 15 reps finisher, got only 13.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1541 on: September 17, 2012, 03:57:57 pm »
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You = stronger bench press than me. I'm at 57.5 kg x 5 reps x 3 sets and I'm borderline to failing there.

I'm not doing barbell bench pressing anymore though... too dangerous. I'm doing DB bench presses now.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1542 on: September 18, 2012, 02:51:23 am »
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^I wouldn't worry that my bench press is 10kg heavier than yours, i would worry that this 'heavier' bench of mine is not even mediocre, it's just WEAK!
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1543 on: September 18, 2012, 07:06:28 am »
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Hahaha

To be honest though, all these people that bench more than me in the gym (like 99% of them) probably squat less than me, and some say that a 40 kg squat is "heavy".
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1544 on: September 18, 2012, 02:12:45 pm »
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18 September 2012

Weight@session : ~193
Soreness : chest , lats , inner biceps ( ?!? ), glutes (!)
Injuries : Left quad?

At the park for ~1 hour, shooting around uptempo. Quad was more healed than ever so was able to push more , got tons of sweat. Couldn't jump for shit though, CNS blocking me again , decelerating me at countermovement. Managed to force in a few jumps but they were horrible , max 28''
The 15 reps finishers worked , chest is really sore after a long time. The back is not that sore though , probably because it was adapted from doing chinups to failure weekly. Got that weird inner biceps soreness, probably the different movement in the row machine. Also got sore glutes from the squats and not even a slight quad soreness, gotta be the improved upright position.
Nice.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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