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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1395 on: May 31, 2012, 02:59:36 pm »
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31 May 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~192
Soreness : calves 1/5 , glutes and quads 2/5 , hamstrings 4,5/5 ( ! )
Injuries/aches : none


BENCH PRESS , Lance method ( 45 seconds pauses ):
115,5lbs ( same ) :
11 + 8 + 6 , total = 25reps ( +2 reps )
Improved but did not exceed 25 reps again , so weak!

SEATED MACHINE ROWS , Lance method ( 45 seconds pauses ):
200lbs ( same ) :
12 + 8 + 7 , total = 27 reps ( +2 reps )
-Sweet.

SHOULDERS SEATED OHP , Lance method ( 45 seconds pauses ):
93,5 lbs ( same ) :
12 + 8 + 6 , total = 26reps ( +3 reps )
-Sweet.

CHINUPS, Lance method ( 45 seconds pauses ):
BW(192) ( +2 lbs ):
7 + 5 + 3 , total = 15 reps ( +2 reps )
-Better form/ROM while heavier, more reps too , nice but still weak.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2012, 05:04:11 pm by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1396 on: May 31, 2012, 03:36:46 pm »
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Good job ^^^

Do you go all out to failure on the chinups or do you stop a rep or two before that happening? If you do go close to failure, try stopping a rep or two before and see what happens.

When I do that I usually go instead of 7+5+3 with 6+5+5 or something like that, ending up with more total reps.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1397 on: May 31, 2012, 05:02:53 pm »
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^Thanks man!
Good point , i do go to failure in all 'Lance-method' exercises first set and it does drain me for the following sets. I always wondered if i'd get more progress if i 'saved' 1-2 reps in the first set but i am still having constant and linear progress so i didn't change anything. I was thinking to implement 'saving' reps when i reach plateaus.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1398 on: May 31, 2012, 05:28:39 pm »
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Yeah well Lance himself said that you're supposed to stop when the speed slows down/becomes a grinder.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1399 on: June 01, 2012, 01:55:21 pm »
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1 June 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~191,5
Soreness : hamstrings, chest , lats , shoulders sore , quads very 'stiff'
Injuries/aches : none

Went at the park, did bball stuff for an hour or so, mainly wanted to get a good blood flow in the legs and some cardio.
A few 10' rim jumps at the end, horrible: 10'2'' SVJ ( 27'' ) and 10'5'' ( 30'' ) in all other jumps ( dropsteps, 1-2 steps , RVJs ).
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1400 on: June 02, 2012, 08:09:13 am »
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true soreness is a bitch... ::)

gonna try some of that rest-pause stuff in a bit. haven't in a while, keeps things short while getting in good work.
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1401 on: June 03, 2012, 04:54:07 am »
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gonna try some of that rest-pause stuff in a bit. haven't in a while, keeps things short while getting in good work.

This! Also very easy to track progress.



2 June 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~190,AM
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : Left quad, again , FFFFUUUUUUUUU

JUMP SNATCHES:
3@77 lbs ( same )
3@88 lbs ( same )
3@88 lbs ( same )
3@99 lbs ( same )
3@104,5 lbs ( +5,5 lbs) ,  :personal-record:
-Great!!!

EXPLOSIVE PARALLEL BOX SQUATS :
3@154 lbs ( same )
3@176 lbs ( same )
3@198 lbs ( same )
3@220 lbs ( same )
3@220 lbs ( -22 lbs )
3@220 lbs ( -44 lbs )
-Quad injury reflared. WTF!!! Its 1 day later and it still hurts when flexed. So frustrating!
-Maybe it was Friday's jumping that did it... Sucks bigtime anyway.

LANCE CALVE RAISES ( SL eccentric - DL Concentric ):
3x8@110lbs
-Liked those, so different than 'normal' calve raises...
« Last Edit: June 03, 2012, 05:29:06 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1402 on: June 04, 2012, 02:23:53 pm »
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4 June 2012

Went in the park.
Not a jumps/dunks session , again mostly bball stuff , mobility/fitness and of course bball skills are the goals of those sessions.
As for jumps , hip/quad doesn't hurt but i can't do RVJs for shit! SVJs keep improving , today i was at 28,5'' but RVJs would be all around 30''. Mega fail , let's see if i will EVER do some stretching and foam rolling to help me recover!
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1403 on: June 05, 2012, 03:08:26 pm »
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5 June 2012

Stop fooling around and acting like a noob , enter quad-recovery phase.
-NO SQUATTING!
-NO ME JUMPING!
-STRETCH/SMR!

Today i did a long lower body stretch routine and some retarded SMR using a bball.
Gonna buy a foam roller ASAP.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1404 on: June 05, 2012, 04:04:07 pm »
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What about 100% hip extension activities (like straight leg deadlifts with a dumbbell) + calf raises?
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1405 on: June 06, 2012, 02:21:25 pm »
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What about 100% hip extension activities (like straight leg deadlifts with a dumbbell) + calf raises?

Actually gonna do cleans/snatches as they don't seem to interfere, RDLs , will attempt normal DLs too and will do calf raises of course, just no squats and ME jumps as those seem to reflare the injury.



6 June 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~191,5
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : left quad hurts a bit when flexed.

BENCH PRESS , Lance method ( 45 seconds pauses ):
115,5lbs ( same ) :
10 + 8 + 8 , total = 26reps ( +1 reps )
-Finally did over 25 reps , hoorayyyyy!!!

SEATED MACHINE ROWS , Lance method ( 45 seconds pauses ):
205lbs ( +5 lbs ) :
10 + 8 + 7 , total = 25 reps ( -2 reps )
-Awesome, got 25 reps although first time advancing at this load.
-Could actually grind another rep but decided to stay at 25 and redo that load.

SHOULDERS SEATED OHP , Lance method ( 45 seconds pauses ):
99 lbs ( +5,5 lbs ) :
10 + 8 + 7 , total = 25reps ( -1 rep )
-Awesome , got 25 reps although first time advancing at this load here too.

CHINUPS, Lance method ( 45 seconds pauses ):
BW(191,5) ( -0,5 lbs ):
6 + 5 + 4 , total = 15 reps ( same )
-Meh, as usual.

Then did:
-Long lower body stretch routine.
-Retarded SMR using a basketball.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1406 on: June 07, 2012, 02:14:03 pm »
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7 June 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~193,5
Soreness : chest , lats , shoulders and weirdly calves
Injuries/aches : left quad still aching when flexed.

HANG POWER CLEANS:
3@99 lbs ( same )
3@110 lbs ( same )
3@121 lbs ( same )
3@132 lbs ( same )
2@143 lbs( same )
-Very good, more powerful than last time.
-Felt some stress at injured quad at 132 so didn't do the 143 top set.

SQUATS :

DEADLIFTS:
8@176
5@220
3@264
1@286 , ties  :personal-record:
1@308 ,  :personal-record:
-22lbs PR being injured!  No straps/gloves , only belt. :headbang:
-Went up nice, felt strong enough to try 330 but decided not to challenge my quad more , patience!

STANDING CALVE RAISES:
3x15@209 ( same )

-Long lower body stretch routine.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1407 on: June 07, 2012, 05:51:08 pm »
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Good form on the deadlifts?
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1408 on: June 08, 2012, 03:09:18 am »
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1409 on: June 08, 2012, 04:41:22 am »
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^Thanks!  ;D
Form 'felt' good. No grinders, feeling like not rounding back, no back stress during or afterwards. Of course you never know unless you film.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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