Author Topic: Age vs VO2max  (Read 1602035 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

vag

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6059
  • Respect: +3838
    • View Profile
Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1275 on: January 22, 2012, 06:49:50 am »
+1
Why should i?
There are so many options , ramp to money set , ramp to #RM . steady weight for all sets , back-up set(s) for equal reps , back-up set(s) for higher reps , blah blah blah...
As i said , this is a GPP/hypertrophy oriented workout , i don't believe such alterations can really make a real difference, pushing as much as possible and progressive overloading is the key here.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

---

it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

vag

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6059
  • Respect: +3838
    • View Profile
Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1276 on: January 22, 2012, 07:46:01 am »
0


ADD THIS NOTE TO EVERY POST SO YOU KEEP REMEMBERING:
-DO SOMETHING ACTIVE EVERY DAY.
-DON'T NEGLECT STRETCHING.
-DON'T NEGLECT CORE.
-DON'T NEGLECT JUMPING.

2011 ON/OFF DAYS : 69-17
2012 ON/OFF DAYS :  13-6


21 January 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~187 ( AM ) , too light but i know its fake. Gonna bounce to normal after a good eating weekend!
Injuries/aches : none
Soreness : quads , hamstrings, glutes 3/5 , calves 2/5

Short arms workout@home:

SHOULDERS LATERAL DB RAISES:
3x8@10kg each hand

SHOULDERS FRONT DB RAISES:
3x8@10kg each hand

CONCENETRATION CURLS:
3x12@10kg each hand

SKULL CRASHERS:
3x12@20kg

:rant: I am neglecting core/plyos/jumping/stretching again , reminder does remind me but i still don't do them. Jumping is justified because weather is not good , but no excuse for plyos/core/stretching. :rant:
« Last Edit: January 22, 2012, 09:57:50 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

---

it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

vag

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6059
  • Respect: +3838
    • View Profile
Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1277 on: January 24, 2012, 04:44:52 am »
+1


ADD THIS NOTE TO EVERY POST SO YOU KEEP REMEMBERING:
-DO SOMETHING ACTIVE EVERY DAY.
-DON'T NEGLECT STRETCHING.
-DON'T NEGLECT CORE.
-DON'T NEGLECT JUMPING.

2011 ON/OFF DAYS : 69-17
2012 ON/OFF DAYS : 14-7


22 January 2012 : Total rest.

23 January 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~189
Soreness : hamstrings still sore , 2/5
Injuries/aches : none

Explosive lower workout.

HANG POWER CLEAN:
5@99lbs ( +11 lbs )
5@110lbs ( same )
4@121lbs ( -1 rep )
-Awesome progress on jumping the bar. Missed the catch at last rep of last set. I think i will switch to 5 sets of 3 reps.

EXPLOSIVE HALF SQUATS :
3@220 ( -11 lbs )
3@242 ( same )
3@264 ( +11 lbs )
3@286 ( +22 lbs )
3@275lbs
3@308 ( +11 lbs )
3@319lbs
3@330lbs ( +11 lbs )
-Reduced the total number of sets from 8 to 6 for better recovery in Wednesday's bball game. I was doing 4x3 explosive + 4x3ME , now 4x3 explosive + 2x3 ME.
-3@330 is again all time  PR tie but previous was @191BW so actually it's :personal-record:
-Bar jumping off shoulders even with 286 , 308 2 grinders , 330 no grinders.

RDL:
8@198lbs ( +22 lbs )
8@220lbs ( +22 lbs )
8@242lbs ( +22 lbs ):personal-record:
-Boom! Had the strength for this PR long time now but kept losing grip , finally nailed it. Previous PRs 5x242/6x231

STANDING CALVE RAISES:
4x6@209lbs ( same )
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

---

it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

Raptor

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14619
  • Respect: +2539
    • Yahoo Instant Messenger - raptorescu
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1278 on: January 24, 2012, 05:55:05 am »
+1
Damn nice :highfive: :ibsquatting: :wowthatwasnutswtf:
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

vag

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6059
  • Respect: +3838
    • View Profile
Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1279 on: January 25, 2012, 01:21:53 pm »
0
24 January
Nothing!  :uhhhfacepalm:

25 January

Bball game.
Very good endurance. Vert felt great , legs feeling very springy and bouncy.
A few rim jumps were mediocre though , did an SVJ at ~10'2'' ( ~27'' ) and 2 dropsteps and an RVJ , all at ~10'6'' ( 31'' ). Jumping efficiency lacking obviously , but that is expected from the lack of jumping.

:rant:
Reminder is not working. The only thing that is motivating/reminding is the on-off day count. Gonna change the format , keeping year's weeks and separate workout sessions count. Each workout should be at least 1/week and leg workouts should be 2/week , let's see how that goes!
 :rant:

New reminder format:


2012 WINTER WORKOUTS COUNTER/REMINDER:
CURRENT WEEK COUNT : 4
Lower body sessions    : 6
ME jumping sessions    : 0
Stretching sessions      : 2
Core sessions               : 0
Plyos sessions              : 0
Upper body sessions    : 4
Endurance sessions      : 5


Gonna keep this until weather gets better so i can start jumping again , then restart counting. Probably will keep the total reminder results ( every time a mini-season ends ) in the 1st page of journal.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2012, 01:34:49 pm by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

---

it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

vag

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6059
  • Respect: +3838
    • View Profile
Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1280 on: January 27, 2012, 01:33:02 pm »
0

2012 WINTER WORKOUTS COUNTER/REMINDER:
CURRENT WEEK COUNT : 4
Lower body sessions    : 7
ME jumping sessions    : 0
Stretching sessions      : 2
Core sessions               : 0
Plyos sessions              : 0
Upper body sessions    : 4
Endurance sessions      : 5


26 January 2012
Nothing

27 January 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~191.5
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

ME lower workout.

SQUATS:
5@176 ( +11lbs )
5@187 ( +11lbs )
5@198 ( +11lbs )
5@209 ( +11lbs )
5@214,5 ( +5.5lbs ) ( +1 rep )
-209 set was parallel , all other ( including the top 214,5 ) ATG.
-Good improvements again.
 
BB LUNGES:
6@132 each leg
6@143 each leg ( +5.5lbs )
6@154 each leg ( +11lbs )
-2nd time doing them , as expected they felt much better/natural.

STANDING CALVE RAISES:
1x15@165 ( same )
1x15@187 ( +11lbs )
1x15@187 ( same )
-165 too easy , wasted set.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

---

it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

vag

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6059
  • Respect: +3838
    • View Profile
Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1281 on: January 29, 2012, 02:00:30 pm »
0

2012 WINTER WORKOUTS COUNTER/REMINDER:
CURRENT WEEK COUNT  : 4
Lower body sessions    : 7
ME jumping sessions    : 0
Stretching sessions      : 2
Core sessions               : 0
Plyos sessions              : 0
Upper body sessions    : 5
Endurance sessions      : 5


29 January 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~191
Injuries/aches : none
Soreness : Inner quads , glutes , hamstrtings and calves , all barely sore , ~1/5.

Upper body workout

BENCH PRESS:
8@99lbs
8@110lbs
8@121lbs
8@132lbs
-Free weights room is closed on Sundays , had to do them at a machine.

SEATED ROWS:
8@160lbs ( +5lbs )
8@170lbs ( +5lbs )
8@180lbs ( +5lbs )
8@190lbs ( +5lbs ):personal-record:
-Bam , previous PR was 8x187. Had more in the tank but didnt want to burn out for the rest of workout.

SEATED OHP:
8@110
8@121
8@132
8@132
-LOL , i am not that strong , had to do them at a machine too.

WIDE GRIP LAT PULLDOWNS:
8@150lbs ( +10lbs )
8@160lbs ( +10lbs )
8@170lbs ( +10lbs )
8@180lbs ( +10lbs )
-PR territory here too but not sure , have to check back in the journal.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

---

it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

LBSS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12979
  • plugging away...
  • Respect: +8042
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1282 on: January 30, 2012, 10:46:35 pm »
0
nice work on the pull downs.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

- Avishek

https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

black lives matter

vag

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6059
  • Respect: +3838
    • View Profile
Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1283 on: January 31, 2012, 06:34:48 pm »
0
nice work on the pull downs.

Thanks. I checked , PRs are 8x187 / 4x198. My pulls are much better than my pushes , still nothing impressive though.


2012 WINTER WORKOUTS COUNTER/REMINDER:
CURRENT WEEK COUNT   : 5
Lower body sessions     : 8
ME jumping sessions     : 0
Stretching sessions      : 2
Core sessions               : 0
Plyos sessions              : 0
Upper body sessions    : 5
Endurance sessions      : 5


31 January 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~193.5 , bloated.
Injuries/aches : none
Soreness : Some upper body DOMS , mainly chest and lats , ~2/5.

Explosive lower workout.

HANG POWER CLEAN:
3@99lbs
3@110lbs
3@121lbs
3xF@132lbs
-Changed to 4x3. Missed 3 times @132 , it seemed more like a psychological thing ( 20kg plate barrier ).

EXPLOSIVE HALF SQUATS :
3@231lbs ( +11 lbs )
3@253lbs ( +11 lbs )
3@275lbs ( +11 lbs )
3@297lbs ( +11 lbs )
3@319lbs ( +11 lbs )
3@341lbs ( +11 lbs ),  :personal-record:
-The 319 was my best half squat set ever. Controlled descent , good depth , great explosion.
-341 was ok for legs but felt too heavy on back. Reduced ROM , like 1/3 squat. Still  :personal-record:

RDLs:
Had to wait 20 minutes for some dicks to finish their rows on the squat rack ( ! ) to do my squats  so then i run out of time , cancelled.

STANDING CALVE RAISES:
See RDLs
« Last Edit: February 01, 2012, 01:08:30 pm by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

---

it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

Raptor

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14619
  • Respect: +2539
    • Yahoo Instant Messenger - raptorescu
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1284 on: February 01, 2012, 06:26:58 am »
0
Damn, you're kicking my ass on these half squats :uhhhfacepalm: :highfive: , no wonder you're jumping higher off two feet.

I used 220 lbs yesterday to keep it really explosive.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

PointerRyan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 606
  • Respect: +3
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1285 on: February 01, 2012, 07:17:02 am »
0

2012 WINTER WORKOUTS COUNTER/REMINDER:
CURRENT WEEK COUNT : 4
Lower body sessions    : 7
ME jumping sessions    : 0
Stretching sessions      : 2
Core sessions               : 0
Plyos sessions              : 0
Upper body sessions    : 4
Endurance sessions      : 5


26 January 2012
Nothing

27 January 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~191.5
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

ME lower workout.

SQUATS:
5@176 ( +11lbs )
5@187 ( +11lbs )
5@198 ( +11lbs )
5@209 ( +11lbs )
5@214,5 ( +5.5lbs ) ( +1 rep )
-209 set was parallel , all other ( including the top 214,5 ) ATG.
-Good improvements again.
 
BB LUNGES:
6@132 each leg
6@143 each leg ( +5.5lbs )
6@154 each leg ( +11lbs )
-2nd time doing them , as expected they felt much better/natural.

STANDING CALVE RAISES:
1x15@165 ( same )
1x15@187 ( +11lbs )
1x15@187 ( same )
-165 too easy , wasted set.



wow 15@187 for calve raises? Are your toes elevated or something? either ways i don't get how the hell people use so much weights for calf raises. 40lbs is already killing me lol

vag

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6059
  • Respect: +3838
    • View Profile
Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1286 on: February 01, 2012, 08:01:45 am »
0
Damn, you're kicking my ass on these half squats :uhhhfacepalm: :highfive: , no wonder you're jumping higher off two feet.

I used 220 lbs yesterday to keep it really explosive.

Thanks!
Estimated 1RM is ~1.9xBW now , highest ever! Pity that i can't see how it transforms to jumping currently due to the weather.



wow 15@187 for calve raises? Are your toes elevated or something? either ways i don't get how the hell people use so much weights for calf raises. 40lbs is already killing me lol

I do them on a machine very similar to this:


Actually this machine makes them harder for me. On the previous gym i was going , i used this exact machine :


Stepping on the calf raise pads of course, not at the 'squat' pad that is pictured.
I could rep out serious loads there , up to 420lbs...  :o
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

---

it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

Raptor

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14619
  • Respect: +2539
    • Yahoo Instant Messenger - raptorescu
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1287 on: February 01, 2012, 09:45:40 am »
0
I'm afraid of doing loaded calf raises. One - that my legs would slipp and a mess would happen and two - I've always had back problems after doing them. So I do them on one leg and use dumbbells/plates in that leg's corresponding hand. Going for 15-20 reps.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

vag

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6059
  • Respect: +3838
    • View Profile
Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1288 on: February 01, 2012, 01:07:05 pm »
0
^^^
You could do them at the squat rack and use 2,5kg plates to elevate toes,  you cant slip in a setup like that.
SL calve raises are fine too , i did them at the previous gym because i was too bored to load 300+lbs plates there. I prefer the bilateral ones because of the heavy load the back has to handle.


2012 WINTER WORKOUTS COUNTER/REMINDER:
CURRENT WEEK COUNT   : 5
Lower body sessions     : 8
ME jumping sessions     : 0
Stretching sessions      : 2
Core sessions               : 0
Plyos sessions              : 0
Upper body sessions    : 5
Endurance sessions      : 6


1 February 2012

Bodyweight@session : ???
Injuries/aches : none
Soreness : none

Bball game.
Very good endurance , this has definitely improved a lot.
Vert felt very good again but i didn't do any rim jumps to report.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

---

it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

vag

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6059
  • Respect: +3838
    • View Profile
Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #1289 on: February 02, 2012, 02:21:07 pm »
0

2012 WINTER WORKOUTS COUNTER/REMINDER:
CURRENT WEEK COUNT   : 5
Lower body sessions     : 8
ME jumping sessions     : 0
Stretching sessions      : 2
Core sessions               : 0
Plyos sessions              : 0
Upper body sessions    : 6
Endurance sessions      : 6


2 February 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~192.5
Injuries/aches : none
Soreness : none

Short arms workout@home:

SHOULDERS LATERAL DB RAISES:
3x8@10kg each hand

SHOULDERS FRONT DB RAISES:
3x8@10kg each hand

CONCENETRATION CURLS:
3x12@10kg each hand

SKULL CRASHERS:
3x12@20kg
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

---

it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?