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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #750 on: November 12, 2010, 09:03:56 am »
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Quote from: vag on November 12, 2010, 08:25:00 am
: WEAK!  :pissed:

OK , i've had it with being lazy , i will launch an all out attack:
- more reactive work
- more cardio
- more abs
- more stretching

WTF , its waiting there , GO GET IT!

x2. Work has been getting in the way for me but fuck that noise, time to get back on the horse.  :strong:
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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #751 on: November 12, 2010, 09:10:22 am »
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Quote from: LBSS on November 12, 2010, 09:03:56 am

x2. Work has been getting in the way for me but fuck that noise, time to get back on the horse.  :strong:

Word man , im reading your recent posts about working and absolutely feel you.
Work and life can really get you off-track , but only if you let them do it.
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Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #752 on: November 12, 2010, 09:25:38 am »
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That's the spirit! (Carlton Banks voice)
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Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #753 on: November 12, 2010, 01:25:39 pm »
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THE RATIO TECHNIQUE BIG EXPERIMENT:






BLUE = current
RED = pending
GREEN = done


12 November 2010

PHASE 1 - Cycle 3 - Explosive Workout

Bodyweight@session : ~197,5
Injuries/aches : none
Soreness : none

REA SQUATS:
4x3@143
-Best REA squats ive ever done , really fluid and fast

MSEM SQUATS ( Eccentric normal , transition + concentric as explosive as possible ) :
4x1@187
4x1@198 , ( +11 lbs )
-Not 2 different sets , it was 8x1 , just added weight in the last 4 reps. Rest between reps ~30secs.

Paused BSS ( at smith machine ):
1x5@176 , ( +22 lbs )
1x5@198 , ( +22 lbs )
1x5@220 , ( +22 lbs )
-Tempo : 2-2-1 , pretty beasty.

SINGLE LEG STANDING CALVE RAISES:
1x5@110 , ( +22 lbs )
1x5@132 , ( +22 lbs )
1x5@154 , ( +22 lbs )
1x5@154
-Didn't add weight on last set because it would reach max and i didn't want that.
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Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #754 on: November 12, 2010, 02:28:17 pm »
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What's your current bodyfat %? Have you ever went through a cutting phase in an effort to lose the bodyfat?
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Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #755 on: November 13, 2010, 02:51:11 am »
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Quote from: vag on November 12, 2010, 01:25:39 pm

REA SQUATS:
4x3@143
-Best REA squats ive ever done , really fluid and fast

nice man!@$!@ thats a great sign.
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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #756 on: November 13, 2010, 07:59:40 am »
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Quote from: adarqui on November 13, 2010, 02:51:11 am
Quote from: vag on November 12, 2010, 01:25:39 pm

REA SQUATS:
4x3@143
-Best REA squats ive ever done , really fluid and fast

nice man!@$!@ thats a great sign.

Thanks man!

Quote from: Raptor on November 12, 2010, 02:28:17 pm
What's your current bodyfat %? Have you ever went through a cutting phase in an effort to lose the bodyfat?

Current bodyfat is ~16,5% which is very low for current weight for me ( ~90kg ) , i usualy go to 18-19% at this weight level. Bulking more slow ( not on purpose , just happened ) made the added mass more lean than other times.
I don't intend to go in a fat-cutting phase because i lose strength and mass VERY easy and fast ( bad strength genes + age ).
I do intend to experiment with high-low eating days as this ratio thing continues. Also as mentioned a few posts above i will try to add more cardio/sprints in the weekly plan, want to get in better shape. Later in the ratio when it is pure EXP-MSEM it will be more fat-loss oriented , now im just about to enter the hypertrophy transition , want to push the weight a bit more.
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Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #757 on: November 13, 2010, 10:18:51 am »
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Ha. I like how you has your age listed as 36+
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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #758 on: November 13, 2010, 02:37:45 pm »
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Quote from: Flander on November 13, 2010, 10:18:51 am
Ha. I like how you has your age listed as 36+

Haha , you noticed , i had my birthday last month so i am into the 37th year of my life now!  :headbang:


13 November 2010

Glutes dead as usual after paused-BSS. Interestingly enough , quads are sore too , probably from slow BSS eccentic.

- 7 Days Vertical Jump Cure routine.
- My usual lower body stretch routine.

Seems i got pretty tight from non-stretching , also core is weaker compared to the past , looks like doing 7DVJC often will be very benefitial.
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Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #759 on: November 14, 2010, 02:22:31 pm »
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14 November 2010

- Dynamic warmup 10'.

- 4x10 bilateral line hops , 2 side-side - 2 back-forth.

- 4x10 MR tuck jumps.

- 4x5 27'' depth drops.

- My usual lower body stretch routine.
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Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #760 on: November 14, 2010, 06:32:54 pm »
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REA squats with 143 lbs is ridiculous. I can barely do them with 95 and I'm probably only doing them well when the weight gets down to 75.
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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #761 on: November 15, 2010, 04:03:05 am »
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Quote from: LBSS on November 14, 2010, 06:32:54 pm
REA squats with 143 lbs is ridiculous. I can barely do them with 95 and I'm probably only doing them well when the weight gets down to 75.

Haha , maybe that's the reason it was the first time i felt doing them right.

Also , i am beginning to think that my reactivity is not as bad as i thought :
- REA squats , explosive box squats etc are good.
- SVJ-dropstep gap = 4''
- SVJ-2-steps gap = 6-7''

So ( aside from max strength ) its probably FA that im lacking , ill focus a bit on that ( skip DJs , do only MR tucks + Depth Drops ) and see what happens...
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Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #762 on: November 15, 2010, 04:14:16 am »
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To me, the differences are like 2 inches in SVJ vs RVJ off two feet... probably a technique thing as well, I have no idea. It doesn't make sense though, especially as I have long legs and I am a natural reactive, one-leg jumper. I think I just load my muscles weird/wrong off two feet, and my body position is not good.
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Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #763 on: November 15, 2010, 05:52:44 am »
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Quote from: vag on November 14, 2010, 02:22:31 pm
14 November 2010

- Dynamic warmup 10'.

- 4x10 bilateral line hops , 2 side-side - 2 back-forth.

- 4x10 MR tuck jumps.

- 4x5 27'' depth drops.

- My usual lower body stretch routine.



Wow, that's a lot of module, how do you feel after that session?
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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #764 on: November 15, 2010, 06:03:40 am »
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Quote from: djoe on November 15, 2010, 05:52:44 am
Wow, that's a lot of module, how do you feel after that session?

Pretty fine actually , seems i got a bit sore at hamstrings and abductors from it ( ! ).
What usually suffers most in such workouts is my shins , but they are ok this time.
My calves are extremely strong so i guess that helps workouts like that...
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Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Quote from: adarqui on May 17, 2021, 04:57:01 pm
it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?
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