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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3855 on: December 10, 2019, 07:55:09 am »
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9December 2019

Bodyweight@session : ~85kg
Soreness : none?
Injuries/aches : none

RDL:
8@30kg
8@50kg
6@70kg ( -2 reps )
5@80kg ( -3 reps )
4@90kg ( -4 reps )
-Cutting down volume this week on legs exercises to stay somewhat fresh for Sunday's race.

DIPS:
12@BW ( +1 rep )
11@BW ( +1 rep )
11@BW ( +1 rep )
10@BW
10@BW

SEATED CABLE ROW:
10@65kg ( +6 kg )
10@65kg
10@65kg
10@65kg
10@65kg

Dips and rows felt much stronger, probably due to the reduced (by 740kg) tonnage of RDLs prior to them.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3856 on: December 11, 2019, 08:34:45 am »
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10 December 2019

Bodyweight@session : ~85.5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none


SEATED NEUTRAL GRIP DB OHP:
10@17,5kg each hand
10@17,5kg each hand
10@17,5kg each hand
10@17,5kg each hand
10@17,5kg each hand

[SS1a]STANDING Z BAR CURLS:
12@25kg
12@27,5kg
12@30kg ( +2,5 kg )
12@30kg

[SS1b]TRICEPS ROPE PULL DOWN:
12@17kg
12@23kg  ( +2,5 kg )
12@23kg
12@23kg

DB SHRUGS:
15@20kg each hand
15@20kg each hand
15@20kg each hand

STATIONARY BIKE:
15 minutes / 7.5km / 159kcal

Weather is fucked up, much rain and wind, can't run, while Sunday's race is closing in.
Sucks, did bike yesterday, want to do intervals today but it looks like ill have to do them on treadmill.
At least forecasts say it will be dry on Friday ( planned for the last run, long slow recovery one ) and most importantly dry and semi-sunny at Sunday morning for the race.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2020, 04:23:14 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3857 on: December 12, 2019, 05:52:42 am »
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11 December 2019

Bodyweight@session : ~84,5kg ( light lunch + running clothes/shoes = instant diet )
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

TREADMILL SESSION:

C1a : Slow jog 500m
C1b : Sprint 500m
-C1 info : 5 rounds
-Cool down jog 1km

Total : 6K @ ~42minutes
Pace for sprints was 5:00 / 4:48 / 4:36 / 4:48 / 5:00.

Of course that is duration, distance, top speed and intensity treadmill :personal-record:

Impressed. I still hate treadmill with passion but this was the first time ever i managed to do a serious/demanding/useful workout on it. In the past i would be going much slower than my set pace and feeling like i was going all out. Now the 3rd sprint was 500m @ 13kmh , pretty close to what i get out there.

Noice!
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3858 on: December 13, 2019, 04:32:13 am »
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12 December 2019

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

1½ hours full court basketball.
Very very good endurance again. Was supposed to play buffered to not over-tire myself but didn't, wasn't all out wither but up-tempo for sure.
Gassed out at around 50 minutes of continuous play. Still great, considering I haven't balled for about 1 month.
Vert still gone. Annoying.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3859 on: December 15, 2019, 03:19:31 am »
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13 December 2019

8KM @ 53:47

Long slow recovery run. Wanted to have a pace around 7:00 but that was impossible, natural 'slow' was around 6:20.
Went super boring slow at the last kms, almost walking, brought the pace to 6:43. HR at the end, 125bpm, awesome!
Race mode on  8)
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3860 on: December 15, 2019, 11:53:05 pm »
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13 December 2019

8KM @ 53:47

Long slow recovery run. Wanted to have a pace around 7:00 but that was impossible, natural 'slow' was around 6:20.
Went super boring slow at the last kms, almost walking, brought the pace to 6:43. HR at the end, 125bpm, awesome!
Race mode on  8)

holdup. when's the next race? didn't know of an upcoming race.

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3861 on: December 16, 2019, 05:12:47 am »
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^^^
Press Ctrl+F , type race , it's all over the page, but not in a separate pointed out post indeed. Here is the initial post about the race, 10 days before it.

I have a 4km race next Sunday ( kinda XC, road but with a lot of uphill and downhill, but not too much ). Goal is sub 5:00 average pace ( so sub 20:00 total ).

Damn it, should have pointed out more clear, i think i over-did it in preparation, not enough recovery/tapering, you would have prevented me from that.



15 December 2019

RACE DAY: 3.6K @ 17:42 electronic

First race ever below 5:00 km pace ( average for this was 4:55 ) ,  :personal-record: :ibrunning: :personal-record: :ibrunning: :personal-record:
Weird race. Didn't know the course, didn't know the exact distance. Turned out to not be a road race after all, it was, say, 30% road and 70% trail. Previous days had much rain so there were muddy parts too. In general my Takumi Sen adizeros were not particularly happy about the surface.
Also it was all uphill and downhill, the entire race, no flat part at all. First half was downhill, went out too fast, had 4:20 average pace at around 700m in, actively slowed down to not gas out later. Good choice, the finishing km was the hardest, intense uphill ( 20-30m vertical rise worth ), would have serious problems if i haven't reserved some juice, went all out at it to record a 5:05 pace at it ( did 2:58 for ~570m ), pretty well.
I am happy that i broke 5:00 average. I am somewhat unhappy because i thought i was good for much more in a so short race, like 4:30 or so, but my mind doesn't accept the XC/trail difficulty part as an excuse, which was decisive.
The only way i can 'feel' i did well is looking at the results: i am 10th out of 70 people. Winner did 13:50 , 2nd and 3d just below 14:30 and 4th did 16:00. So winner was ~3:50, podium was around 4:00 and 4th place was 4:30. I guess it was a hard slow-ish race, so my 4:55 is a pretty good average pace. Ill take it.



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« Last Edit: December 16, 2019, 05:27:31 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3862 on: December 17, 2019, 11:29:10 am »
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16 December 2019

Bodyweight@session : ~85.5kg
Soreness : quads, glutes, calves, pretty intense too. PR on XC race does not come for free.
Injuries/aches : none

PAUSED ATG SQUAT:
10@10kg
10@20kg
10@30kg
10@40kg
10@50kg
SINGLE LEG BOX SQUAT:
8 each leg @ BW+5kg
6 each leg @ BW + 10kg
-Nice.


SEATED HORIZONTAL CHEST PRESS MACHINE:
10@60kg
10@60kg
10@65kg ( +5 kg )
10@65kg
10@65kg

WIDE GRIP LAT PULL DOWN:
10@65kg
10@65kg
10@65kg
10@65kg
10@65kg

Nice workout yesterday, pretty strong despite 10 days without doing it.

If soreness allows me, i intend to attempt a 5K PR tonight, not at my default uphill-downhill course, i have spotted a flat course, tarmac surface , a square circuit of 500m, so 10 rounds.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3863 on: December 18, 2019, 06:47:17 am »
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If soreness allows me, i intend to attempt a 5K PR tonight, not at my default uphill-downhill course, i have spotted a flat course, tarmac surface , a square circuit of 500m, so 10 rounds.

17 December 2019

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : legs sore all over, new sore muscles = abductors and hamstrings from squatting. chest and lats also having DOMS
Injuries/aches : none

Body condition was not ideal for a lifetime PR attempt but i had to:
Weather was unexpected hot (15'C at 8PM) and somewhat dry (77% right next to the sea ), plus next days i have various errands and then im off for Xmas holidays, then id be de-trained etc etc, so it was last night or never.

-Warmup slow jog + stome strides 1.75km

-5K TIME TRIAL : 23:56 ,  :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record:  :ibrunning: :ibrunning: :ibrunning: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :headbang: :almostascoolasnyancat:

-Cool down slow jog 1.75km

Wowowow, now that's a way to end the year!
-Planned it very well as you can see at the tracker screenshot too. Goal paces were 5:10-5:05-5:00-4:50-4:4x. Stayed close to the plan but was ~10'' faster feeling i am keeping some reserves too. Kept at it without letting me go to exhaustion, then at the last 1.5 km went all out, for sure 100%. You can even see the little bump-up at the start of that final attempt at the tracker.
-Destroyed my (only achieved in races ) PR by about 1,5 minute , broke 25' milestone, broke 24' too , all km splits are below 5' , last kms were 4:40, 4:36,while  ive done faster than than 4:45 only at 1KM sprints after resting.
Multi PRs, i think that is like a level-up certificate. Magnificent, such a warm rewarding feeling. Happy!  :)
:lololol:

Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3864 on: December 18, 2019, 11:14:06 pm »
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If soreness allows me, i intend to attempt a 5K PR tonight, not at my default uphill-downhill course, i have spotted a flat course, tarmac surface , a square circuit of 500m, so 10 rounds.

17 December 2019

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : legs sore all over, new sore muscles = abductors and hamstrings from squatting. chest and lats also having DOMS
Injuries/aches : none

Body condition was not ideal for a lifetime PR attempt but i had to:
Weather was unexpected hot (15'C at 8PM) and somewhat dry (77% right next to the sea ), plus next days i have various errands and then im off for Xmas holidays, then id be de-trained etc etc, so it was last night or never.

-Warmup slow jog + stome strides 1.75km

-5K TIME TRIAL : 23:56 ,  :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record:  :ibrunning: :ibrunning: :ibrunning: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :headbang: :almostascoolasnyancat:

-Cool down slow jog 1.75km

Wowowow, now that's a way to end the year!
-Planned it very well as you can see at the tracker screenshot too. Goal paces were 5:10-5:05-5:00-4:50-4:4x. Stayed close to the plan but was ~10'' faster feeling i am keeping some reserves too. Kept at it without letting me go to exhaustion, then at the last 1.5 km went all out, for sure 100%. You can even see the little bump-up at the start of that final attempt at the tracker.
-Destroyed my (only achieved in races ) PR by about 1,5 minute , broke 25' milestone, broke 24' too , all km splits are below 5' , last kms were 4:40, 4:36,while  ive done faster than than 4:45 only at 1KM sprints after resting.
Multi PRs, i think that is like a level-up certificate. Magnificent, such a warm rewarding feeling. Happy!  :)
:lololol:



damn dude nice. crushing it to end the year. that's a major PR considering solo vs race. all splits under 5, great work! :headbang: :ibrunning:

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3865 on: December 20, 2019, 05:06:11 am »
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^^^ Thanks Andrew. Yes it is a very nice PR. It also verifies the XC race performance was great. I was frustrated with 4:55 average there, seemed too slow. But if i am good for solo 4:45 5K un-recovered, then it means i did 4:55 3.6K not because i was slow, but because the race was a hard one. Got top 10 anyway, should have stayed at that.

2020 running goals:
-1KM 3:30 ( current PR 3:56 )
-1500m 6:30 ( current PR 6:56 )
-5K race 22:00 ( current PR 23:56 )
-10K 50:00 ( current PR 56:54 )
-Complete 21K, in any time.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3866 on: December 22, 2019, 11:25:23 pm »
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^^^ Thanks Andrew. Yes it is a very nice PR. It also verifies the XC race performance was great. I was frustrated with 4:55 average there, seemed too slow. But if i am good for solo 4:45 5K un-recovered, then it means i did 4:55 3.6K not because i was slow, but because the race was a hard one. Got top 10 anyway, should have stayed at that.

2020 running goals:
-1KM 3:30 ( current PR 3:56 )
-1500m 6:30 ( current PR 6:56 )
-5K race 22:00 ( current PR 23:56 )
-10K 50:00 ( current PR 56:54 )
-Complete 21K, in any time.

good goals right there. u will get them, especially now that ur off the cigs lol.

they don't do mile races over there? do they have any road 1500's or road mile's? do a mile race one day, you'll crush your 1km, 1500m, and mile all in one shot.

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3867 on: December 23, 2019, 06:42:02 am »
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^^^
That would be fun indeed. But there aren't many races in general. Next ones here are end of March and middle April. So i don't have the luxury to pick small distances.
Actually, now with the new smoke-less abilities, i'm already having planning problems because i feel a growing temptation to do 10K races , but then there just aren't enough 5Ks.
Meh. The good thing is that it looks like running is becoming a trend, so more and more events pop up, like this one i did previous weekend. We'll see.



Ok , so this previous week i didn't train after Tuesday because i somehow strainned my left trapezoid, while my legs were destroyed from doing PR XC race - season high volume squatting - lifetime 5K PR back to back.

21 December 2019

Went running. Plan was to go as far as i can with a 5:30 km pace ( 10 seconds faster than lately established set pace of 5:40 ).
Secret hope: last 10K at that pace, smash PR.
Reality: did that run at around 3PM Saturday, fasted. Last meals were a very light dinner Friday night, a rather light lunch Friday noon, and a very light dinner Thursday night.
Result: i was keeping that 5:30 pace with ease , but around 4K i felt like i run out of glycogen. Not even sure if it's possible so soon, but i felt dizzy and keeping the same pace suddenly became too hard. Sucked it up, completed 5K at 27:10 ( 2nd fastest EVER at this course ), then did a slow jog cool-down km and called it a day.

Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3868 on: December 24, 2019, 01:06:37 pm »
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23 December 2019

Bodyweight@session : ~85.5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

PAUSED ATG SQUAT:
10@10kg
10@20kg
10@30kg
10@40kg
10@50kg
SINGLE LEG BOX SQUAT:
8 each leg @ BW+5kg
8 each leg @ BW + 10kg ( +2 reps per leg )

SEATED HORIZONTAL CHEST PRESS MACHINE:
10@60kg
10@65kg ( +5 kg )
10@65kg
10@65kg
10@70kg ( +5 kg )

WIDE GRIP LAT PULL DOWN:
10@65kg
10@65kg
10@65kg
10@65kg
10@71kg ( +6 kg )

Nice workout , top sets are all the best ive ever done at this gym ( last 7 months ).

Off for Christmas. I did bring my running gear with me lol. Im not saying i will, but i might! :)

Have a nice time everyone!
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Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3869 on: January 05, 2020, 09:03:42 am »
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Happy new year forum!

4 January 2020

JOG 500m
RUN 5K @ 29:13
JOG 1000m

Rusty, mostly at pacing. Wanted to go at around 5:45, kept going faster or slower, couldn't find that 'set pace' balanced feeling.
Ended with an average of 5:50. Pretty fair i guess, last run was 21 Dec.   
« Last Edit: January 08, 2020, 05:19:05 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?