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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2970 on: January 22, 2016, 05:09:44 am »
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21 January 2016

1½ hours full court bball.
That was interesting. Legs were still sore and tired. However they were fresh at the same time, being ready to fire throughout the whole game. Both for vert AND for speed. Vert felt a bit lower than recently due to 'tired' legs, but it was there the whole time. First step too, sprints for fast breaks too, strength for physical game too. Love it. Not sure i can attribute it to just two sessions of HIIT weightlifting, maybe just a good day. Felt amazing for sure, by far most enjoyable bball session in like 1 year.

Nutrition :
1700 kcal / 100g protein / ( 1000 kcal deficit )
Missed the post-bball meal that would bring me to the planned 150g protein/500kcal deficit. My bad.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2971 on: January 23, 2016, 11:12:46 am »
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23 January 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~87.5
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

T0DDAY'S GPP

Week #1 , workout #3

SUPERSET 1 - SQUAT ++ OHP:
6@75kg ( +2,5 kg ) ++ 8@35kg ( +2,5 kg )
6@75kg ( +2,5 kg ) ++ 8@35kg ( +2,5 kg )
6@75kg ( +2,5 kg ) ++ 8@35kg ( +2,5 kg )
6@75kg ( +2,5 kg ) ++ 8@35kg ( +2,5 kg )

SUPERSET 2 - BSS ++ PULLUPS:
8 each leg @ 14kg DBs ( +2 kg per hand ) ++ 7
8 each leg @ 14kg DBs ( +2 kg per hand ) ++ 7
8 each leg @ 14kg DBs ( +2 kg per hand ) ++ 7
8 each leg @ 14kg DBs ( +2 kg per hand ) ++ 6

SUPERSET 3 - RDL ++ LEG RAISE:
20@40kg ++ 17  ( +2 reps )
15@60kg ++ 16  ( +1 rep )
10@80kg ++ 15
5@100kg ++ 15

SPEED HALF SQUATS AMRAP:
30''@50kg : 21 reps
30''@80kg : 15 reps

Nice progress. skipped the AMRAP finishers, too drained to do. Might do them 1 on - 1 off. Or just AREG by feel.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2972 on: January 23, 2016, 01:51:02 pm »
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Are you doing T0ddday's GPP, or Today's GPP?  2 D's is ambiguous

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2973 on: January 24, 2016, 06:36:25 am »
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Ambiguous... Now that's an adjective I never expected to see used for... Double D's
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Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2974 on: January 25, 2016, 05:32:14 am »
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Diet update

Saturday:
3500 kcal / 270g protein / ( 700 kcal surplus )

Sunday:
1800 kcal / 120g protein / ( 500 kcal deficit )

Nice.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2975 on: January 25, 2016, 10:21:02 am »
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Ambiguous... Now that's an adjective I never expected to see used for... Double D's
:wowthatwasnutswtf:

if it helps, he actually uses three ds in his name. and a 0.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2976 on: January 25, 2016, 01:31:52 pm »
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LOL, i know, i already use 0 instead of O. Also if you check the link that this misspelled label redirects to, it is written correctly there.
I just missed a D on the first workout post and then it keeps appearing cause i use quote&edit.
We were pun-messing-around with merrick.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2977 on: January 26, 2016, 05:13:25 am »
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25 January 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~90kg, lol
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

T0DDDAY'S GPP

Week #2 , workout #4

SUPERSET 1 - SQUAT ++ OHP:
6@75kg ++ 8@35kg
6@75kg ++ 8@35kg
6@75kg ++ 8@35kg
6@75kg ++ 8@35kg

SUPERSET 2 - BSS ++ PULLUPS:
8 each leg @ 14kg DBs ++ 7
8 each leg @ 14kg DBs ++ 7
8 each leg @ 14kg DBs ++ 7
8 each leg @ 14kg DBs ++ 6

SUPERSET 3 - RDL ++ LEG RAISE:
20@40kg ++ 18 ( +1 rep )
15@60kg ++ 17 ( +1 rep )
10@80kg ++ 16 ( +1 rep )
5@100kg ++ 15

SPEED HALF SQUATS AMRAP:
30''@50kg : 20 reps ( -1 rep )
30''@80kg : 15 reps

Diet:
3300kcal / 210g protein / ( 500kcal surplus )

Weight is fluctuating like crazy. Today I as almost 3kg heavier than 2 days ago. But it was a full stomach ( big lunch + big pre-workout meal ) vs empty.
Still, fluctuations are annoying. Can't estimate how recomp is going like that. Won't change anything this week, but i plan to stick to TDEE kcals every day next week to check where  I am.
Other than that, lifts going good, having better breaths every time, reps being more solid etc. Upping loads next workout.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2016, 07:04:02 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2978 on: January 26, 2016, 03:49:24 pm »
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T0ddday, what do you think of the way i have implemented/tweaked your GPP so far?
Here are the things i would appreciate some feedback about:
-I replaced hip thrusts with (as much glute driven as possible ) RDL and band squats with speed half squats. Are you fine with this? If not, what would you recommend as replacement for each, given ( for whatever reasons ) that hip thrusts and band squats are not an option?
-I am using ~2 minutes breaks between sets and ~3 minutes breaks between exercises. Is that fine?
-How do i progress? Classic progressive overloading? Or should i push it more? I am using weights that i can handle well currently, getting all reps with perfect form. Most difficulty comes from the big heart rate, not the load itself. I could up the load so i can barely get the prescribed reps for first superset of each exercise and most possibly miss some reps on the latter ones, then keep that load until i get all reps, then up. What is better?
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2979 on: January 28, 2016, 04:33:26 am »
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27 January 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~89kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

T0DDDAY'S GPP

Week #2 , workout #5

SUPERSET 1 - SQUAT ++ OHP:
6@77,5kg ( +2,5kg ) ++ 8@37,5kg ( +2,5kg )
6@77,5kg ( +2,5kg ) ++ 8@37,5kg ( +2,5kg )
6@77,5kg ( +2,5kg ) ++ 8@37,5kg ( +2,5kg )
6@77,5kg ( +2,5kg ) ++ 8@37,5kg ( +2,5kg )

SUPERSET 2 - BSS ++ PULLUPS:
8 each leg @ 16kg DBs ( +2kg per hand ) ++ 7
8 each leg @ 16kg DBs ( +2kg per hand ) ++ 7
8 each leg @ 16kg DBs ( +2kg per hand ) ++ 7
8 each leg @ 16kg DBs ( +2kg per hand ) ++ 6

SUPERSET 3 - RDL ++ LEG RAISE:
20@45kg ( +5kg ) ++ 19 ( +1 rep )
15@65kg ( +5kg ) ++ 17
10@85kg ( +5kg ) ++ 16
5@105kg ( +5kg ) ++ 16 ( +1 rep )

SPEED HALF SQUATS AMRAP:

Nice , upped the weights. Everything felt very hard but not because of the heavier weight, legs were tired.
Wednesday is the most difficult day ( shortest time window from previous session, Monday ). Must emphasize some recovery shit on Tuesday.

Random HR measurement, during the BSS-pullup supersets:
At the end of set 3 : ~172bpm
At the start of set 4 : ~130bpm
Measurements were the first and last 30'' of the 2 minutes break between sets 3 and 4.

Diet:
3100kcal / 260g protein / ( 400kcal surplus )
« Last Edit: January 28, 2016, 04:36:17 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2980 on: January 28, 2016, 09:57:48 am »
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T0ddday, what do you think of the way i have implemented/tweaked your GPP so far?
Here are the things i would appreciate some feedback about:
-I replaced hip thrusts with (as much glute driven as possible ) RDL and band squats with speed half squats. Are you fine with this? If not, what would you recommend as replacement for each, given ( for whatever reasons ) that hip thrusts and band squats are not an option?
-I am using ~2 minutes breaks between sets and ~3 minutes breaks between exercises. Is that fine?
-How do i progress? Classic progressive overloading? Or should i push it more? I am using weights that i can handle well currently, getting all reps with perfect form. Most difficulty comes from the big heart rate, not the load itself. I could up the load so i can barely get the prescribed reps for first superset of each exercise and most possibly miss some reps on the latter ones, then keep that load until i get all reps, then up. What is better?

Hey, saw your posts and been meaning to get back to you but been super busy.  A few comments:

- First I noticed that you were doing power clean AMRAPs.  I would have told you to stop this and never do it again but it looks like you figured this out on your own (Sometimes the best coaching is sitting back and letting your athlete figure out a few things on their own :)).   I don't really like the idea of doing anything AMRAP - but it is especially senseless for a dynamic and dangerous move like the power clean.  It's just a way to get really fast at back driven speed reverse curls at best or at worst get injured.  You can't avoid everything crossfit does because they do so much but anything that's a crossfit staple is usually not a great idea...  As far as the suggestion of band squats for reps - I do want to clarify what I meant better because maybe I wasn't clear.    I wasn't suggesting band squats with an AMRAP protocol - although if you were going to do it it would be the least bad because you essentially fly through band squats until you dont - at which point the rep becomes so slow it's pretty clearly stopping time...   Rather I was suggesting timed reps.  So for example you do 10 reps with 135 + 100lb bands to a box and do it as fast as possible (or stop at 20 seconds).   Doing 20 reps in 30-40 seconds with a challenging weight will be a rhythmic 2 second rep (with a prescribed ROM from the box) and simulate the lactate response you get running 200-400m.   In the winter time when athletes cant/won't run outdoors this is a great substitute.  If you absolutely can't do band squats don't sweat it - it looks like your playing full court basketball which should provide some lactate stimulus. 

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-I replaced hip thrusts with (as much glute driven as possible ) RDL and band squats with speed half squats. Are you fine with this? If not, what would you recommend as replacement for each, given ( for whatever reasons ) that hip thrusts and band squats are not an option?

- No problem with the speed half squats - although as I stated above I don't have a problem with you just dropping the band/half squats altogether... (Also I don't think I was clear on this but the band squats are usually not used at the end of the workout but after 3 sets of squats.  So it would look like 3x6 squat followed by 1x10, 1x20 timed band squats for 5 total sets. 

  As far as the RDL's it's not ideal simply because of the effect of fatigue on RDLs vs Glute Thrust.  As you discovered when doing the workout out of order - order matters.  Squatting is done first because squatting with accumulated fatigue is extremely hard and slightly dangerous.   I much prefer hip thrusts to RDLs when you are fatigued because the tempo you can use for hip thrusts (you can hold the top for a 1-2 count and fly through the rest of the rep which you can't do for RDLs) BUT movement wise you picked a good substitute.  I can suggest a better one but given your setup something that involves more bands or cables will probably be something you can't do...  Maybe this is also off limits but if you don't mind me asking why is it that you can't do hip thrusts?  Is it that you can't lug a barbell to the floor or can't find a bench?  If you can find anything (swiss ball even - ugh) you can substitute heavy hip thrusts with single leg bridges which require a lot less resistance or even ball rollouts - would either be possible?  Or you can stick to RDLs - just BE careful. 

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-I am using ~2 minutes breaks between sets and ~3 minutes breaks between exercises. Is that fine?

- Maybe.  Assuming < 2 minutes per superset set and about 4 sets per exercise 14 minutes a set and 9 minutes resting between sets so a total time of 51 minutes - this isn't bad at all.  This should be a quick workout - an absolute max time would be 90 minutes while shooting for an hour or less - looks like you are there...

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-How do i progress? Classic progressive overloading? Or should i push it more? I am using weights that i can handle well currently, getting all reps with perfect form. Most difficulty comes from the big heart rate, not the load itself. I could up the load so i can barely get the prescribed reps for first superset of each exercise and most possibly miss some reps on the latter ones, then keep that load until i get all reps, then up. What is better?

Well...  I believe that you know your body but I would still get some data on whether it's the load or the heart rate.   For example - if you dropped all the weight moved by 30% would the workout be much much easier and you would be able to use less rest or not?  If the answer is no - then you need to slightly increase your rest intervals - don't increase them between exercises in the superset but move to 3 minutes between sets and 5 minutes with some dynamic stretching between exercises.   If the answer is yes then you can keep the rest around where it is.  Don't decrease rest. 

As far as progression - yes classic progressive overload.  It will be easy at first.  The idea of this training is it is resistance training with a fitness component - so as you get fitter you will soon be able to handle move far more weight.  Ideally we get you back up around your PRs in this scheme and then when you go to lift again with long rest intervals you will find yourself getting ridiculously strong.  This is basically one of my main principles - just like vested training - it's always easier doing what we can with a handicap (in this case fatigue) then continually getting better at what we been working on for years - so we introduce a handicap and get back to what we thought our limit was - then remove the handicap and  make progress.  This is really the reason weight training works in the first place if you think about it...  Consider why you even lift when your goal is vertical - your speed in the squat with a 45lb bar is 100x more important than whether you can squat 300, 400 or 500lbs... BUT - the easiest way to build bar speed with an empty bar is not to practice going faster with it but to add extra resistance so the bar feels lighter when you actually go back to it!

- As far as missing reps this is the basic philosophy to it.

1) Squats.  You are doing this first and shouldn't miss reps.  Work with an absolute minimum of 4 reps and a maximum of 10 reps.  So that means if you are nailing 3x6, go up to 3x8 or even 3x10.  THEN - add some weight.  You can an moderate weight and do sets of 10,8,6 OR as little as 4,4,4 (with the goal that the next workout will include more reps).  The reps are up to you - personally I favor 4,7,7 simply because I have seen the best progress on this for the most athletes but I don't think there is magic voodoo to this.  I would have athletes doing something like 315lbs x 4, 275x7,7 (or bumping that last set to 9 as a sign that they need more weight next time).   

2) Military Press.   You should never ever miss a rep here.... Because when you do you can turn it into a push press or push jerk.  You can add more weight as long as you get at least 1 rep to be a strict press.  No shame in having to do a lot of push press - I prefer it to strict press anyway for athletes.  An athlete that can't push press way way more than he can strict press is a poor athlete IMO.  Keeping the rule that you have to strict press the first rep of each set means you should never fail...

3) BSS - you can manipulate the reps here but don't go too low.  One thing I would like to see is you end the last two sets with a 10-50 second iso hold.  This will really help.

4) Hip Thrust - you can always pump out a few more :) so don't worry about adding weight...

5) Pullups/Leg raise.  Here you can add weight and if you fail just rest.  If you supposed to do 8 pullups with 45lbs (by the way don't worry about full ROM - no need for a dead hang - just be consistent) and you fail at 6...  Drop off the bar count to 5 and grab it again and do 2 more.   Same with leg raises - If you supposed to do them with a 20lb dumbell just rest and finish your set - add weight when this isn't happening.

** For your leg raises I prefer them on a slant bench but for ease of use and to keep the workout confined to a small space you can do them hanging from the bar - if you have a slant bench go that route though...

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« Reply #2981 on: January 28, 2016, 03:31:52 pm »
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Ah , very enlightening!!!

- First I noticed that you were doing power clean AMRAPs.  I would have told you to stop this and never do it again but it looks like you figured this out on your own (Sometimes the best coaching is sitting back and letting your athlete figure out a few things on their own :)).   I don't really like the idea of doing anything AMRAP - but it is especially senseless for a dynamic and dangerous move like the power clean.  It's just a way to get really fast at back driven speed reverse curls at best or at worst get injured.  You can't avoid everything crossfit does because they do so much but anything that's a crossfit staple is usually not a great idea...  As far as the suggestion of band squats for reps - I do want to clarify what I meant better because maybe I wasn't clear.    I wasn't suggesting band squats with an AMRAP protocol - although if you were going to do it it would be the least bad because you essentially fly through band squats until you dont - at which point the rep becomes so slow it's pretty clearly stopping time...   Rather I was suggesting timed reps.  So for example you do 10 reps with 135 + 100lb bands to a box and do it as fast as possible (or stop at 20 seconds).   Doing 20 reps in 30-40 seconds with a challenging weight will be a rhythmic 2 second rep (with a prescribed ROM from the box) and simulate the lactate response you get running 200-400m.   In the winter time when athletes cant/won't run outdoors this is a great substitute.  If you absolutely can't do band squats don't sweat it - it looks like your playing full court basketball which should provide some lactate stimulus. 

I should have not used AMRAP as a term. I am doing AMRAP-in-30-seconds, what is the name for that, reps for time? Having seen your band squats video that is what i tried to mimic. So yes, it is rhythmic fast half squats for time. I get 20 reps in 30 seconds with 50kg and 15 reps in 30 seconds with 80kg, so 1.5 / 2 seconds per rep respectively.
I didn't even try the HPCs, by the time it was their turn it seemed such a stupid idea that i didn't even bother.
I will move the speed halves after normal ones instead the end of the workout. I will do them once weekly, every Monday, which is a perfect week split ( bball is on Thursday ).


As far as the RDL's it's not ideal simply because of the effect of fatigue on RDLs vs Glute Thrust.  As you discovered when doing the workout out of order - order matters.  Squatting is done first because squatting with accumulated fatigue is extremely hard and slightly dangerous.   I much prefer hip thrusts to RDLs when you are fatigued because the tempo you can use for hip thrusts (you can hold the top for a 1-2 count and fly through the rest of the rep which you can't do for RDLs) BUT movement wise you picked a good substitute.  I can suggest a better one but given your setup something that involves more bands or cables will probably be something you can't do...  Maybe this is also off limits but if you don't mind me asking why is it that you can't do hip thrusts?  Is it that you can't lug a barbell to the floor or can't find a bench?  If you can find anything (swiss ball even - ugh) you can substitute heavy hip thrusts with single leg bridges which require a lot less resistance or even ball rollouts - would either be possible?  Or you can stick to RDLs - just BE careful. 

The hip thrusts are not possible because A) the gym is always crowded and the benches are always taken, plus they don't leave much room for hip thrusts either the way the are placed. B) it is a very commercial gym, nobody does stuff like that, i would be the big weirdo that everyone looks at and comments if i hip-thrusted in there. Kinda lame excuse, maybe i shouldn't care  but that's how it is. I am doing the RDLs with minimum back stress, shortened ROM to right below knee to reduce back fatigue, I focus on firing glutes the whole time, I am exaggerating the horizontal-hip-thrust finishing. It looks much more like horizontal hip thrust than a RDL actually.


- Assuming < 2 minutes per superset set and about 4 sets per exercise 14 minutes a set and 9 minutes resting between sets so a total time of 51 minutes - this isn't bad at all.  This should be a quick workout - an absolute max time would be 90 minutes while shooting for an hour or less - looks like you are there...

Perfect time measuring, that is exactly how it is. 55 to 65 minutes including the squat warm-up, depending on if i do the speed squats.

Thanks for the rest of the tips too. Not obligatory dead hang in pullups and not obligatory strict OHP is nice to know, simplifies things :D
Same with AREG squat reps. Still, i will shoot for strict/full reps everywhere, just use the 'hacks' when i fail.

Thanks once again for your time and insight!
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2982 on: January 28, 2016, 04:00:47 pm »
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I'm glad to see you making gains.  I think 8 weeks on this program and you should be able to lift your previous non-fatigued maxes at which point you will be stronger and leaner than ever before. 

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I should have not used AMRAP as a term. I am doing AMRAP-in-30-seconds, what is the name for that, reps for time? Having seen your band squats video that is what i tried to mimic. So yes, it is rhythmic fast half squats for time. I get 20 reps in 30 seconds with 50kg and 15 reps in 30 seconds with 80kg, so 1.5 / 2 seconds per rep respectively.

It's splitting hairs to some extent but I would recommend you vary the times/reps more.   I think you will have to use slightly different time standards if you are doing box unbanded squats (because bands accelerate the negative so I don't think you can be quite as fast) but what we do is something like this.  I'm giving an example of weighs for someone I train who is an absolute speed endurance beast (10.7 100m and 45.5 400m). 

Basically, he uses two different loads and two different time constraints - one is to "simulate' 100/150m fatigue and the other 300/400m fatigue.  Initially he was doing 10 reps @ 225lbs + 100lb black bands in about 12 seconds and 20 reps at 185lbs + black bands in about 40 seconds.   When he was able to get 225x10 in <  10 seconds we added weight and when he got 185x20 < 30 seconds we added weight.  Eventually he was at 275x10 in around 11.5-12.0 and 225x20 in just over 30 seconds.  This type of gain is HARD to get.  In that video i posted I am doing 225x10 + bands in 9.3 seconds.  At 275x10 it takes me about 16 seconds.  This type of training makes you realize that all too often when we add weight and get stronger we are also getting slower - keeping it honest with the time makes you realize how hard it is to really get "50lbs" stronger...

Again your gonna have to fiddle with the loads that make sense for your strength levels and factor in the fact that your not doing band squats but play with it and find goals that make sense.  A good rule of thumb is unweighted squats.  We use bands + empty bar for a test.  Most athletes can get 10 banded reps done like this in about 6 seconds - which makes 10 loaded reps in under 10 seconds a feasible goal.  Just assuming it takes something like 9 seconds for 10 bar squats for you - then you would probably want to have a 15 second and 35 second goal.  Don't ever have the times go above 40 seconds though (not just your goals but any of your work sets).  Above 40 seconds you will start to enter aerobic respiration and produce H+ which will combine with the massive dose of lacate in your muscles and make our friend lactic acid which WILL shut you down for about an hour or two...  There is a reason clyde hart has his guys do 350m repeats instead of 400m repeats... Don't make this mistake!

*** Just wanted to add that varying the time/weight requires will allow a nice potentiating effect which you won't get with two 30 second sets.  Doing 20 reps with speed band squats @ 185 is EXTREMELY daunting and can make you puke.  It's not something I look forward to...  However, first doing 10 reps with MORE weight at a FASTER speed is the one thing one can use to make the set seem easier...   The initial reps will seem easy when you just did a faster and tempo with a heavier weight, doesn't mean you won't be on the ground afterwards though :).
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2983 on: January 29, 2016, 05:56:59 am »
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I'm glad to see you making gains.  I think 8 weeks on this program and you should be able to lift your previous non-fatigued maxes at which point you will be stronger and leaner than ever before. 

8 weeks is a tough bet. PRs are about 10-15kg away currently.
E.g. squat : i am at 4x6@77,5kg now, PR is 3x8@92,5. RDL: top set is 5@105kg now, PRs are 15@100kg / 9@110kg.
On the other hand, plan was to do that ~3 months so ~12 weeks, so i've got another 10. If i add 2,5 kg every 2 weeks ( which is pretty conservative ) i'll be there.
Will sure be interesting as always to chase them PRs , and i'll chase them hard.

Great info/tactic about the speed squats too. I'll adjust my reps/loads to that.



28 January 2016

1½ hours full court bball.
Same story with last time but amplified : Legs very tired, to the point of actually hurting. Max effort jumps feeling like 90% of a road to a quadricep tear. Achieved heights low ( ~28-29'' max ).
However, legs always ready to fire, this low max jump was ready and loaded the entire game time. Minimum reaction time, minimum fatigue. Got some very impressive blocks and offensive rebounds. Even had the guys cheering at a baseline volley-spike block. Feels nice. I am sure it is the HIIT weight-lifting by now. Makes me salivate at the prospect of how it will be 3 months later.

Nutrition :
2000 kcal / 160g protein / ( 800 kcal deficit )
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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« Reply #2984 on: January 30, 2016, 10:38:24 am »
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30 January 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~89kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

T0DDDAY'S GPP

Week #2 , workout #6

SUPERSET 1 - SQUAT ++ OHP:
6@80kg ( +2,5kg ) ++ 8@40kg ( +2,5kg )
6@80kg ( +2,5kg ) ++ 8@40kg ( +2,5kg )
6@80kg ( +2,5kg ) ++ 8@40kg ( +2,5kg )
6@80kg ( +2,5kg ) ++ 5@40kg ( +2,5kg ) ( -3 reps ) + 3@40kg push-press
-Awesome. Very strong at both, especially OHP. Expected to need much more push-press but was only needed for the last 3 reps of last set.

SUPERSET 2 - BSS ++ PULLUPS:
8 each leg @ 18kg DBs ( +2kg per hand ) ++ 7 + 1
8 each leg @ 18kg DBs ( +2kg per hand ) ++ 6 + 2
8 each leg @ 18kg DBs ( +2kg per hand ) ++ 5 + 3
8 each leg @ 18kg DBs ( +2kg per hand ) ++ 5 + 3
-Strong BSS but grip endurance is beginning to complain.
Used the complementary reps for pullups. When i can get 4x8 without fail i will use complementary reps to get to 4x10.

SUPERSET 3 - RDL ++ LEG RAISE:
20@45kg ++ 20
15@65kg ++ 18 + 2
10@85kg ++ 16 + 4
5@105kg ++ 15 + 5
-Used slant bench for leg raises. Also used complementary reps. Felt much more burn in the abs.

STANDING CALF RAISE MACHINE:
15@BW+95kg
15@BW+95kg
15@BW+95kg
-Will be doing calf work the days that i don't do speed half squats. Was too heavy, should have started lighter.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?