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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2490 on: December 03, 2014, 05:53:34 am »
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So a 2x squat for a short guy. Nothing THAT impressive about it.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2491 on: December 03, 2014, 06:12:42 am »
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Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2492 on: December 04, 2014, 01:34:20 pm »
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4 December 2014

Bodyweight@session : n/a
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : right lower back still bugging a bit, i guess i had a very light strain 1 week ago during paused squats. Does not bug when warm but 'reminds the presence' post-workout.

1.5 hours full court basketball.
Good endurance, good vert. One rim jump at the low rim, clean wrist touch, season best at this rim but don't know how high it is.
No neck issues, although i had many of those hyper-extensions going for blocks that trigger it, nice. I have been doing stretches daily.

Didn't go to gym yesterday, because of back, decided to rest it. I will merge the max bench-light squats day and the max squat - light bench day into one max bench - max squat on Saturday, in other words one squat day instead of two this week to allow some extra rest.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2493 on: December 06, 2014, 01:46:51 pm »
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6 December 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~85kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none, rest worked, back is 100% again.

5/3/1 beginner template v.2

Wave #2 , Week #3 ( 1+ reps )

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT ( 5/3/1 day ):
5@77,5kg
3@87,5kg
6@97,5kg
-6RM  :personal-record: but predicted 1RM lower than previous weeks.   :-\

BENCH PRESS ( 5/3/1 day ):
5@55kg
3@62,5kg
6@70kg
-Same with squats, 6RM  :personal-record: but predicted 1RM lower than previous weeks.  :-\

LEG PRESS PAUSED CALF 'RAISE':
12@250kg
12@250kg
12@250kg

BICEPS DUMBBELL CURL:
12 each hand @ 18kg
12 each hand @ 18kg

BARBELL PREACHER CURL:
12@25kg
12@25kg

TRICEPS ROPE PUSHDOWN:
12@30kg
12@30kg
-Very good here too. Expected sth like 12-10-9.

DEAD HANG NEUTRAL GRIP PULLUPS:
8@BW
7@BW
6@BW

SEATED WEIGHTED CRUNCHES MACHINE:
20@120lbs
20@120lbs

45 DEGREES BACK EXTENSION:
12@BW
12@BW
12@BW

Marathon session, joined two workouts in one.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2494 on: December 09, 2014, 06:19:11 am »
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8 December 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~85,25kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

5/3/1 beginner template v.2
Wave #2 , Week #3 ( 1+ reps )

RDL:
5@85kg
3@95kg
7@105kg
-Most weight I've ever repped, but 1RM again weaker than previous weeks.  :-\

OHP:
5@35kg
3@40kg
7@45kg
-All time PR is 8@45, failed to even tie it. Not there yet.  >:(

DB SHRUGS :
12@20kg each hand
12@20kg each hand
12@20kg each hand
-I have the feeling it is not the weight that makes those challenging but the TUT. Like if i use 25s it will still be the same feeling/difficulty. We'll see next time.

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
9@BW , ties :personal-record:
8@BW
6@BW
6@BW , ( +1 rep )
-Finally an achievement for this workout.

STANDING CALF RAISE MACHINE:
-Forgot them , FFFFFUUUUUU.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2495 on: December 09, 2014, 11:16:26 am »
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Wave #2 of 5/3/1 has finished, updated the results and money sets of wave #3 here :  5/3/1 beginner template v.2

Here are the results:

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SQUAT: ( 1RM used = 115kg )
11@87,5kg , predicted 1RM ~= 121kg  ( 1,4*BW ) ,  both all time :personal-record:

RDL: ( 1RM used = 125kg )
12@95kg , predicted 1RM ~= 135kg ( 1,6*BW ) , season PR, all time second best both 1RM and 1RM/BW
 
OHP: ( 1RM used = 52,5kg )
9@42,5kg , predicted 1RM ~- 55kg ( 0,64*BW ) , ties all time 1RM/BW  :personal-record:
            
BENCH: ( 1RM used = 82,5kg )
8@67,5kg , predicted 1RM ~= 84kg ( 0,98*BW ) , both all time  :personal-record:

The good news :
-Lifetime PRs in squat and bench , big improvement ( although no PR ) in RDL.

The bad news:
-Didn't improve in OHP ( yet tied season best 1RM and lifetime 1RM/BW PR ).
-My PRs came from higher-rep money sets, at the 1+ day that the %RM percentage was higher, i failed to match them.
-I feel kinda tired, weak, stalled. But that can be attributed to:
A) Being on lifetime PR strength level, you can't expect to progress linear from here. It is a plateau, busting it is difficult.
B) Maybe i need a deload, i have been going 100% for almost 4 months now, with only 1 week 'break' ( i was sick that week, and i did 1RM testing too ).
C) Bad sleep, not that i was ever good at this but lately my discipline at calling it a night has weakened.

What's next:
No time for a deload, xmas holiday ( i will be off for around 10 days ) is in 2 weeks. Gotta keep going hard to create a 'planned overreaching'
Not enough workouts for a full 5/3/1 wave, i need 9 and i only have around 6.
So i will do the +5 reps and +1 reps workouts that are exactly 6, i will just skip the +3 reps days of the plan.
Will try to get some more sleep too.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2014, 06:10:06 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2496 on: December 11, 2014, 02:32:09 pm »
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11 December 2014

Bodyweight@session : n/a
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

1.5 hours half court basketball.
Good endurance and vert. Dropstep 10'5'' touch ( 30'' ) when fresh.
Not enough jumping volume, body doesn't know how to jump efficiently. That is always the case mid-winter but it is still a negative fact.
Must add some jumps. Weather is terrible so can't go to the park but i should try to do some stuff at home, like SVJs, dropsteps, depth jumps, jump squats.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2497 on: December 12, 2014, 04:43:33 pm »
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12 December 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~85.25kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

5/3/1 beginner template v.2

Wave #3 , Week #1 ( 5+ reps )

BENCH PRESS ( 5/3/1 day ):
5@50kg
5@57,5kg
10@65kg
-All time predicted 1RM   :personal-record: ( ~86,5kg )
All time predicted 1RM/BW   :personal-record: ( 1.01*BW )
Broke two HUGE lifetime milestones, 85kg and 1*BW , :personal-record: , :personal-record::wowthatwasnutswtf:
Numbers are still weak but the achievement is incredible for me.

BICEPS DUMBBELL CURL:
12 each hand @ 18kg
12 each hand @ 18kg

BARBELL PREACHER CURL:
12@25kg
12@25kg

TRICEPS ROPE PUSHDOWN:
12@30kg
12@30kg
10@30kg

SEATED WEIGHTED CRUNCHES MACHINE:
20@120lbs
20@120lbs
15@120lbs

ABS SLED MACHINE:
20@BW+10kg - front
20@BW+10kg - lateral R
20@BW+10kg - lateral L
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2498 on: December 14, 2014, 07:32:09 am »
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13 December 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~86kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none, rest worked, back is 100% again.

5/3/1 beginner template v.2

Wave #3 , Week #1 ( 5+ reps )

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT ( 5/3/1 day ):
5@72,5kg
5@82,5kg
10@92,5kg:personal-record:
-10RM PR ( previous was 10@90kg ).
Predicted 1RM PR ( ~123kg, previous was ~121kg )
Predicted 1RM/BW PR  ( ~1,43*BW , previous was ~1,4*BW )
:wowthatwasnutswtf:

LEG PRESS PAUSED CALF 'RAISE':
12@210kg ( -40 kg )
12@210kg ( -40 kg )
12@210kg ( -40 kg )
-Decreased weight, increased pauses and eccentric duration.

UPRIGHT ROWS:
12@30kg
12@30kg
12@30kg
-Still very hard for so light.

DEAD HANG NEUTRAL GRIP PULLUPS:
9@BW , ties  :personal-record:
7@BW
6@BW
6@BW ( +1 rep )
-Total reps  :personal-record: ( +1 ), nice, i was stalled here.

45 DEGREES BACK EXTENSION:
12@BW
12@BW
12@BW
-They got easy, adding weight next time.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2499 on: December 14, 2014, 06:16:00 pm »
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You're absolutely killing it atm.
 :highfive:
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2500 on: December 15, 2014, 05:31:42 am »
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Thanks, it is going very well indeed.
I get great results with 5/3/1, can't figure out why exactly, but it's like i am doped when i do 5/3/1, PRs all over the place. I had it happen last year too.
Maybe the key is that in both cases i was doing a long ( 8 weeks ) GPP phase before it, so the latter max-strength 5/3/1 period 'milks' the gains.
I will stick with it a little more to see if this progress can continue.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2501 on: December 15, 2014, 09:03:16 am »
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You were right back when I was suggesting the Texas Method for you - you seem to milk all kinds of gains on this protocol. I might go on with it after I stall at TM.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2502 on: December 17, 2014, 06:26:56 am »
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16 December 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~85,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

5/3/1 beginner template v.2
Wave #3 , Week #1 ( 5+ reps )

RDL:
5@72,5kg
5@85kg
12@97,kg , all time 1RM/BW  :personal-record: ( 1.62*BW vs 1.6*BW )
-All time PR is 12@100kg but i was 90kg, so now relatively stronger.

OHP:
5@32,5kg
5@37,5kg
9@42,5kg , ties all time 1RM/BW  :personal-record:
-Again stuck at 9 reps at this load, can't get a 10th up for the PR.

DB SHRUGS :
12@22kg each hand ( +2kg per hand )
12@22kg each hand ( +2kg per hand )
12@22kg each hand ( +2kg per hand )
-Confirmed what i suspected. It is the TUT/total duration and not the load that makes those hard.
22s were the same difficult with 20s. First 8 reps easy, next 2 challenging, last 2 hell.
Will do a massive up next time to see what happens, will use 30s.

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
8@BW ( -1 rep )
7@BW ( -1 rep )
6@BW
6@BW
-Something was off here today.

STANDING CALF RAISE MACHINE:
20@BW+80kg
18@BW+80kg
16@BW+80kg
-Same reps with last time, which is good because  that was 2 weeks ago ( forgot them last week ).
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2503 on: December 18, 2014, 03:52:58 pm »
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18 December 2014

Bodyweight@session : n/a
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

1.5 hours full court basketball.
Mediocre endurance. It is going down, every week i feel a little bit more unfit and it adds up. I know, I can't expect much more with this weekly bball session as the only cardio activity. Weather doesn't help me change my current plan, but i should at least do some treadmill/stationary bike stuff at the gym.
Vert was fine. Got 10'5''/30'' off one step at the end, being totally exhausted. Can't use it in-game without breaths though.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2504 on: December 21, 2014, 02:59:15 pm »
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20 December 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~84.5kg , bad food planning.
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

5/3/1 beginner template v.2

Wave #3 , Week #2 ( 1+ reps )

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT ( 5/3/1 day ):
5@82,5kg
3@92,5kg
4@102,5kg
-Fail. Skipping the 3+ reps week didn't work, this was too heavy ( +10kg from last time, what did I expect? ).
It still is some kind of season best, heaviest i've done this year is 102,5 for 3 MSEM singles but predicted 1RM is much lower than recent.

BENCH PRESS ( 5/3/1 day ):
5@57,5kg
3@65kg
4@72,5kg
-Fail here too, for the same reasons with squat.

BICEPS DUMBBELL CURL:
10 each hand @ 18kg ( -2 reps )
10 each hand @ 18kg ( -2 reps )

BARBELL PREACHER CURL:
10@25kg ( -2 reps )
10@25kg ( -2 reps )

TRICEPS ROPE PUSHDOWN:
10@30kg ( -2 reps )
10@30kg ( -2 reps )
10@30kg ( -2 reps )

DEAD HANG NEUTRAL GRIP PULLUPS:
8@BW ( -1 rep )
7@BW
6@BW
5@BW ( -1 rep )

Fail workout. Gotta live with those too.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?