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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2385 on: September 08, 2014, 12:40:14 pm »
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Relative strength ftmfw. ;)
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2386 on: September 09, 2014, 04:50:53 am »
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^^^You bet! Now let's get some absolute!  :trollface:

8 September 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~83.5kg , finally , a small bounce up
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

GPP PHASE - Workout #4

HIGH BAR PAUSED FULL SQUAT:
10@70kg ( +10 kg )
10@70kg ( +5 kg )
10@70kg ( +10 kg )
10@70kg ( -5 kg ) , ( +3 reps )
-Brutal! Should have picked a lighter starting load. Still got all reps in good form, but it was a torture.

PAUSED BENCH PRESS:
10@50kg
10@50kg
10@50kg
10@50kg ( +2 reps )
-Much better control than last time. Upping.

PULLUPS:
10@BW
9@BW ( +1 rep )
8@BW ( +1 rep )
7@BW
-Better control here too.

STANDING CALF RAISE MACHINE:
15@65kg ( +5 kg )
15@65kg ( +5 kg )
15@65kg ( +5 kg )
-Light weight. Gonna do 70kg next time and then switch to paused.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2387 on: September 09, 2014, 03:18:34 pm »
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9 September 2014

Bodyweight@session : forgot to check
Soreness : glutes, hamstrings, chest, lats, arms sore ( low, 2/5 ) , quads tight
Injuries/aches : none

1 to 1.5 hours of bball practice.
Again it went like :
-About 45 minutes of shooting around and layups, medium to low intensity.
-2 sets of 3 reps 100% intensity layups and running&dribbling , ~2 minutes per rep , ~2 minutes between reps, ~5 minutes between sets.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2388 on: September 11, 2014, 03:53:36 am »
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10 September 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~83kg
Soreness : mild soreness at chest, lats, shoulders, forearms, quads, glutes, hamstrings, calves.
Injuries/aches : none

GPP PHASE - Workout #5

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
5@20kg
5@40kg
5@60kg
3@80kg
3@92,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
-Nice. Not 3RM again but getting closer. Hope i can keep adding 2,5kg every week, will have me at all time PR at the end of GPP which will be awesome.

DUMBBELL NEUTRAL GRIP SEATED OHP:
12@14kg each hand
12@14kg each hand
12@14kg each hand ( +2 reps )
-Should have used 16s.

DUMBBELL CURL:
12 each hand @ 14kg
12 each hand @ 14kg ( +2 reps )
12 each hand @ 14kg ( +2 kg )
-Nice.

TRICEPS ROPE PUSHDOWN:
12@20kg
12@20kg ( +2,5 kg )
12@20kg ( +2,5 kg )
-Nice.

SEATED WEIGHTED CRUNCHES MACHINE:
15@90 lbs
15@90 lbs

ABS COASTER MACHINE:
15@BW
15@BW

Still catching up, getting noob gains and DOMS at everything etc. Fun times.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2014, 04:49:13 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2389 on: September 11, 2014, 01:09:37 pm »
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11 September 2014

Bodyweight@session : n/a
Soreness : quads, glutes and hamstrings
Injuries/aches : none

1.5 hours full court basketball.
Extremely improved endurance. Good breaths all the way, also much much faster.
Jumps felt good too, very light on my feet and bouncy. No 10' jumps but i did a few jumps at a lower rim at the end, not sure how high it is, looks between 9'8'' and 9'10''. Last year i could get mid palm or base of palm at best, now i was getting wrist. Good shit.
Finally, i did not feel as weak as i would expect compared to when being around 90kg. I could push people around more or less the same.
So it looks like the weight loss has only positive effects on my game. No shit captain obvious, you just reinvented the wheel!
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2390 on: September 12, 2014, 10:25:16 am »
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If you think 83 feels good wait til you try 73kg. You'll be flying :) So easy on the joints too, haha. #lightweightbrotherhood
Goals: Cutting to 6-8% bodyfat

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2391 on: September 12, 2014, 03:17:52 pm »
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If you think 83 feels good wait til you try 73kg. You'll be flying :) So easy on the joints too, haha. #lightweightbrotherhood

Hahaha, i heard that coming miles away! :D
I'll tell you what, i am not changing my plan, i am still bulking 3 days a week ( gym days ) and cutting the other four.
I am supposed to stabilize, but if what i am doing leads to further weight loss, so be it.
Also, i am not even close to regular condition yet, i am recovering and adapting from de-trained, still get very sore after each workout etc. Have not even discovered what it feels like to be light AND peaked.
Let's see...



12 September 2014

Bodyweight@session : n/a
Soreness : quads, glutes and hamstrings again, combined DOMS from squatting and tightness from basketball. hell!
Injuries/aches : none

Conditioning & recovery workout.

1 mile ( 1.6km ) jog.
11 minutes, ~8,7kmh / 6m:52s per km
Not bad, i was not even trying. Still, was 30 seconds faster tham last time i went like that ( end of July ).

5 minutes rest

Tempo runs:
10x100m @ 70%
-About 20 seconds run - 1 minute rest.

Nice and easy. Good bloodflow, good cardio work.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2014, 04:30:45 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2392 on: September 13, 2014, 04:13:51 am »
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Body composition measurements:

Net morning weight : 81.2kg / 179lbs ,  :wowthatwasnutswtf:
Waist : 85.25cm / 33.56'' , lifetime :personal-record:

Online bodyfat estimation : 14.6% , lifetime :personal-record:
BI scale bodyfat estimation : 14.2% , 0.1% higher here, oops!
AVERAGE bodyfat estimation : 14.4% , lifetime  :personal-record:

Previous:
Net morning weight : 81.4kg / 179.45lbs , below 180lbs, WORD!  :wowthatwasnutswtf:
Waist : 85.5cm / 33.66'' , all time lowest measurement ,   :personal-record:

Online bodyfat estimation : 14.8% , ties previous week's lifetime :personal-record:
BI scale bodyfat estimation : 14.1% , huge lifetime  :personal-record:
AVERAGE bodyfat estimation : 14.45% , lifetime  :personal-record:

The 'curses' of raptor and entropy seem to be working, i am still losing weight despite the 3K+ eating on gym days.
I am leaning too so i'll take it.

#reversehypetytrophy
#athleticanorexia
#adarqwouldbeproud
#FMLiamshrinking
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Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2393 on: September 13, 2014, 05:03:00 am »
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#reactive40yomofo
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2394 on: September 13, 2014, 05:40:40 am »
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My advice for a recomp would be a)don't do it. but b)if you must, then make it a fat loss recomp. Which means you have a net weekly deficit (say 20-30%) with appropriate FL macros and the hope of maintaining lean mass and most importantly: regularly producing bodyweight losses on the scale. Don't aim to maintain bodyweight - because ostensibly the rate of fat loss >> rate of muscle gain. In this case of a FL recomp I would limit the surplus day to ONE day - the highest volume day of training. Make it high carbs, low fat, medium protein. You don't need a surplus for all training days, keep a deficit on the light day. Keep a deficit or maintenance on the heavy day. That's how I would setup an effective fat loss recomp.

A mass gain recomp is not something one should attempt unless you're lean (10% to single digit range) - and even then, if you really wanna gain mass, you probably just wanna do a legit bulk which will be more effective and efficient. Not like you can go set PRs 3x a week while eating a surplus on training days and deficit on rest days  - in theory you can, in practice it doesn't work so well since you're not really able to sustain that rate of progression without a steady, uninterrupted and consistent daily surplus including on rest days.

Honestly, in your place, instead of a recomp, i'd just try a simple daily deficit and keep training normally without bothering with waving calories through the week.  I bet you can do that for a month or two without running into problems w/ performance or muscle loss. Then get ripped and do a bulk and gains, lots of gains. Rinse and repeat.
Goals: Cutting to 6-8% bodyfat

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2395 on: September 13, 2014, 05:58:26 am »
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I'm gonna up-vote this post, because i agree with everything
Just gotta crarify a few things:
-My main goal now is not to recomp, but to stabilize at that weight. Ive lost too much ( a bit more than 10kg ) so i want to stay steady for a while. Get a good feel of that weight, also the wardrobe thing. All pants are now not wearable without belt, which moved a hole up too. Achieving a recomp while stabilizing would be ideal so that's what i am doing that daily bulk-cut thing.
-I have been cutting more or less for 7 months now. I am a bit tired of that. I like the bulking days.
-You gotta factor my age in the planning, to try to cut to 8% like you before bulking again is great in the papers, but come back in 15 years and retry it and tell me what happens ;)
-The weekly caloric balance is still negative. According to the calcs, my sedentary BMR is around 1900, TDEE is 2500 in gym days and 2900 in cardio/bball days. I am eating 3000 in gym days , 2000 in cardio days. So although i am +500 ( +20% ) on gym days, on a weekly basis i am about 2000 down ( 10% ), plus the extra fat loss from all that cardio. And that's shown from the continued weight and fat loss too.
:lololol:

Such overalanyze, very posts, wow.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2396 on: September 14, 2014, 01:06:43 pm »
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13 September 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~82kg , gym BW lowest of the last 5 years or so
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

GPP PHASE - Workout #6

ROMANIAN DEADLIFT:
8@82,5kg ( +2,5kg )
8@82,5kg ( +2,5kg )
8@82,5kg ( +2,5kg )
-Limiting factor=grip again. Better but still legs RDL potential way ahead of grip.

BARBELL LUNGE:
8 each leg @ 40kg
8 each leg @ 40kg
8 each leg @ 40kg

CHINUPS:
10@BW
10@BW
8@BW
7@BW
-Same reps with last week. Forearms gave up on me, back was good for more, weird.

DIPS:
10@BW
10@BW
9@BW ( +1 rep )
9@BW ( +2 reps )
-Nice.

LEG PRESS CALF 'RAISE':
10@180kg
10@200kg ( +20kg )
10@230kg ( +50kg )
-507 lbs at top set, come at me bros! 8)
 
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2397 on: September 14, 2014, 08:54:55 pm »
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canvas lifting straps are like $8. just saying. you know, for the RDLs.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2398 on: September 15, 2014, 04:14:40 am »
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Yup, you told me again. I deliberately don't buy them, at least not yet, i think the load is too light to bother, i want to improve my grip too. If/when i am high-repping above 100kg, then i can say 'ok, grip cant get much stronger, get the damn straps to serve your hamstrings better'. Tnx.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2399 on: September 15, 2014, 09:39:43 am »
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oh yeah my bad. well, suit yourself.  :lololol:
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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