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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2295 on: August 01, 2014, 09:46:47 am »
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in america, menthol =

Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2296 on: August 01, 2014, 10:04:32 am »
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Menthol is an organic compound made synthetically or obtained from cornmint, peppermint or other mint oils. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menthol
Mentha is mint, the plant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mentha

Menthol cigarettes are flavored with menthol. Mint chocolates are also flavored, so it could be menthol in them. They are called mint-choclates though, not menthol. And although i love mint, i hate mint chocolates. And cigarettes too, lol.

If you want to talk about recipes with mint, noting beats a mojito! 8)

Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2297 on: August 01, 2014, 10:18:44 am »
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yes, i know where it comes from and what it means.  >:(

in colloquial american english, "menthol" refers almost exclusively to cigarettes. you would never say there was menthol in chocolates, you'd just say they were mint-chocolates or had mint in them or mint flavoring. the only other case where you might say menthol is in reference to a pharmaceutical product like mouthwash or topical analgesic.

harrumph.
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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2298 on: August 01, 2014, 11:07:19 am »
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I know you know, i was saying that ( i think ) there is no menthol-chocolate word everywhere, not just in US, they are labeled mint-chocolates even if its menthol they contain. :raging:

But i get what you are saying, there are e.g. menthol candies, so your case is demonstrated there.

Now, let's fuck and forget the menthol usage and drink dem mojitos and chill  :lololol:


Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2299 on: August 01, 2014, 12:14:33 pm »
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I didn't know if "mint" was the right term. I remember playing Civ 5 that "mint" was a building of some sort, extracting gold.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2300 on: August 01, 2014, 02:41:06 pm »
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yep, good call raptor. a "mint" is where currency is made, or "minted."

and vag, a mojito may very well be in the cards this weekend. that's good drankin'.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2301 on: August 01, 2014, 04:17:29 pm »
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1 August 2014

Bodyweight@session : forgot to check
Soreness : chest, lats, lower back, hamstrings, all 3/5
Injuries/aches : none

Home workout:

DB ARNOLD PRESS:
4x12@10kg each hand 

DB SHOULDER FLY:
4x12@10kg each hand ( +1 set )

BICEP CONCENTRATION CURL:
4x15 each hand @10kg ( +1 set )

HAMMER CURL:
3x15@10kg each hand ( +3 reps each hand per set )

SKULL CRUSHERS:
4x15@20kg ( +1 set )

SLOW TEMPO DB SHRUG:
4x20@10kg each hand ( +1 set )

:strong:
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2302 on: August 01, 2014, 09:09:27 pm »
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Miss them mojitos from my brief visit to cali :( The last one i had was near enough a litre and the girls we were with insisted they weren't very strong and it was ok. It didn't help that i was fasted close to 24hrs when i had mine i was gone lol. Menthol =  cigarettes here too!
Goals: Cutting to 6-8% bodyfat

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2303 on: August 02, 2014, 08:18:35 am »
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^Fasted drinking is looking for big trouble, lol.

2 August 2010

Bodyweight@session : ~84.5kg
Soreness : very sore lats, little sore lower back
Injuries/aches : none

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
10@70kg
10@75kg
10@80kg
10@85kg
-Tonnage  :personal-record: ( 3100kg / 6834lbs )

CHINUPS:
10@BW
9@BW+5kg
8@BW+10kg
6@BW+15kg
-Weak, back was still too sore/tired from doing deadlifts and rows ~36hrs ago.

DIPS:
11@BW
10@BW+5kg , ties [BW+5] reps  :personal-record:
8@BW+10kg , [BW+10] reps  :personal-record: ( previous was 5 )
8@BW+15kg , [BW+15] reps  :personal-record: ( previous was 4 )
-Awesome!

HORIZONTAL LEG PRESS CALVES 'RAISES':
10@495lbs
10@495lbs
10@495lbs
10@495lbs

That was the last gym session of the season! Gotta finish strong!!!  :highfive:

Big summary coming up soon...

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« Last Edit: August 02, 2014, 11:52:08 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2304 on: August 06, 2014, 04:54:38 am »
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Body composition measurements:

Net morning weight : 82.4kg / 181.6lbs , new season low!!!
Waist : 86.5cm / 34.05'' ,  new all time  :personal-record:

Online bodyfat estimation : 15.4%
BI scale bodyfat estimation : n/a
AVERAGE bodyfat estimation : n/a

Previous:
Net morning weight : 83kg / 183bs , season low!!!
Waist : 86.75cm / 34.15'' ,  :personal-record: , first time under 87cm from when i started measuring ( 5-6 years ago )  :wowthatwasnutswtf:

Online bodyfat estimation : 15.5%
BI scale bodyfat estimation : 15.2%
AVERAGE bodyfat estimation : 15.35%

Expected progress, because the last 10 days i was on a bulk, just 3 days on deficit. Feels like glycogen/water is still there though, up for a whoosh.
I don't have the BI scale here. Also i don't know if this scale readings are the same with the other, so things might be a bit off.
Mirror test is definitely improved though, 2-pack is now permanent and when flexed it is deep. No 4-pack yet. Low 15s seem realistic.
On a  ~10% deficit, 9-15hrs IF plan currently. Alcohol is the disturber, no exaggerations but it is more often there.

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« Last Edit: August 06, 2014, 04:57:30 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2305 on: August 06, 2014, 05:00:56 am »
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Damn... keep going, it looks good so far.

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Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2306 on: August 06, 2014, 05:08:55 am »
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Vag if you haven't got a visible 4 pac yet then you're prob over 17.5%. My guess is high teens. I would say clear 4pac is consistent with 15% or so in weight training individuals, not necessarily even below it for that matter.



^this isn't a bad visual guide
« Last Edit: August 06, 2014, 05:15:08 am by entropy »
Goals: Cutting to 6-8% bodyfat

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2307 on: August 06, 2014, 03:55:59 pm »
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@raptor: thanks, yup, it's interesting, lets see what happens next.

@entropy: so this is what we will do? i will post in your journal that you are overestimating your bf and you will post in mine that i underestimate mine? Makes sense though, i bet the truth is in the middle.
Now seriously, i have this ( along with a few others ) visual bf guide downloaded and inspected. My body is weird, all the fat seems concentrated on lower abdominal area. It probably is not visceral, because i have done all those tests ( waist/hip ratio, standing vs lying waist ) and they indicate i don't have excess visceral fat. It is just how i am built. My waist is 3-4cm smaller at the shortest circumference, which is 3'' above navel. What i report is the largest circumference, which occurs just around navel. My muscle 'toning' currently is pretty much like the 15% pic, maybe better, but from navel and below it is like the 20%, maybe worse. Not bloated like the 25%, just 'love handles'.  From what i read ( not sure if myth or not ) , the older you get, the more you tend to concentrate fat in belly. And i am old. Being a social ( or a bit more than that ) drinker for 20+ years doesn't help either, lol. So maybe it is not that accurate to judge my whole body bf from that area. I doubt i am 17,5 or above as you say, but then again i could be, who knows. I don't care that much about the number per se, but more to continue improving: see the BI and online calculated bf readings and mirror test go down as i lose weight so i know i am on the right track.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2308 on: August 06, 2014, 04:42:51 pm »
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^^^amen, and shit.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2309 on: August 06, 2014, 06:25:01 pm »
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My scale says that at 5'10" and 180lbs I'm at 24% BF.....


Its wrong obviously but the point is you can't judge body fat by this method or that and expect it to be accurate. Like my scale; if I diet down to 175 but don't lift, the scale says im at a lower BF%, but am I really? Did I lose only fat? Only muscle? A combination? This is why i say most methods are unrealistic ESPECIALLY visually IMO because everyone carries their weight differently. I think some call it aesthitics. ;)
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