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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2265 on: July 16, 2014, 06:02:18 am »
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15 July 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~84.5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
5@20kg
5@40kg
5@60kg
5@80kg
4@90kg
15@60kg
-Back to full squats after 1 month. Was afraid it would be worse.

BENCH PRESS:
5@20kg
5@40kg
5@50kg
5@60kg
3@72,5kg ( -1 rep )
15@52,5kg ( +1 rep )
-Nice.

PULLUPS:
5@BW
5@BW + 5kg
5@BW + 10kg , first time adding 10 kg, silly  :personal-record:
4@BW + 15kg , first time adding 15 kg, silly  :personal-record:
10@BW , ties BW reps  :personal-record:
-Very nice.

PAUSED STANDING CALVES RAISES MACHINE:
17@80kg ( +5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
16@80kg ( +5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
15@80kg ( +5 kg )
-Hard. Probably won't be able to do 3x15@85. We'll see.

This ramp-up 5s plus high-rep-finisher feels great. Gonna do it till summer vacation. Then i will think/discuss what to do next.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2266 on: July 17, 2014, 03:29:14 pm »
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17 July 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~84.2kg
Soreness : glutes and hamstrings, 4.5/5
Injuries/aches : none

Return to full squatting annihilated my legs. Pain at every contraction.
Expected it but not to such extent. Walked 1hr yesterday to get a good blood flow, didn't work. Quads not sore at all though.

Went to the park to do some tempos and jumping but the pain was too annoying.
Could man-up and train through it but decided not to  :P

Did two submax mile runs with 5 minutes rest between. Both at 11m:30s , ~8.35kmh / ~7m:11s per km.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2267 on: July 19, 2014, 07:53:27 am »
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19 July 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~84.5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
5@20kg
5@40kg
5@60kg
4@80kg
3@90kg
2@100kg
15@60kg
-Nice, full squat is catching up fast.
Had a third 100kg rep but it would probably be ugly so didn't do it. Happy with two anyway.
15-rep finisher was much easier than last time, 3-5 good form reps in the tank.

CHINUPS:
5@BW
5@BW+5kg
5@BW+10kg
5@BW+15kg
4@BW+20kg ,  first time adding 20kg so :personal-record:
9@BW
-Predicted 1RM way below 10@BW+15kg of last week.
Not bad but i wanted 5 reps for BW+20 and 10+ reps for BW finisher.

DIPS:
5@BW
5@BW+5kg
5@BW+10kg ,  first time adding 10kg so :personal-record:
4@BW+15kg ,  first time adding 15kg so :personal-record:
12@BW , BW reps  :personal-record:
-Great here.

HORIZONTAL LEG PRESS CALVES 'RAISES':
SL STANDING CALVES RAISES
15 each leg @BW+10kg
15 each leg @BW+10kg
15 each leg @BW+10kg
-Forgot to do the smith raises at gym so did SL at home.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2014, 08:53:12 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2268 on: July 20, 2014, 09:54:37 pm »
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i forget, how do you load your chins? DB, or do you have a belt+plates?
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2269 on: July 21, 2014, 04:07:48 am »
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i forget, how do you load your chins? DB, or do you have a belt+plates?

belt+chain+plates.
FWIW, one day that the belt was missing and did them with DBs, i found them extremely harder, all my concentration was at keeping the db from falling instead of the actual pulling.




Body composition measurements:

Net morning weight : 83.5kg / 184bs
Waist : 87.5cm / 34.45''

Online bodyfat estimation : 16%
BI scale bodyfat estimation : 15%
AVERAGE bodyfat estimation : 15.5%

Previous:
Net morning weight : 83.2kg / 183.4bs
Waist : 87cm / 34.25''

Online bodyfat estimation : 15.6%
BI scale bodyfat estimation : 15.1%
AVERAGE bodyfat estimation : 15.35%

Increased weight ( ?!?!?!? ), increased waist, increased online calculated bf , BAD!
Improved mirror test, improved BI-scale bf measurement, GOOD!
Weird.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2014, 04:55:22 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2270 on: July 21, 2014, 09:29:31 am »
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well then big ups on the full plate chins!  :lololol:
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

- Avishek

https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2271 on: July 21, 2014, 09:45:54 am »
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Fatboi
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2272 on: July 21, 2014, 10:45:24 am »
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well then big ups on the full plate chins!  :lololol:

Thanks, but the big plate didn't happen, lol, it went like : 5kg / 10kg / 10kg+5kg / 10kg + 10kg.

Fatboi


Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2273 on: July 24, 2014, 05:58:26 am »
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23 July 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~84.25kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
5@20kg
5@40kg
5@60kg
5@80kg
5@90kg ( +1 rep )
20@60kg ( +5 reps ) , lol, 20RM  :personal-record:
-Didn't know i have 20 reps in me. Good form too, could do more.

BENCH PRESS:
5@22,5kg ( +2.5 kg )
5@42,5kg ( +2.5 kg )
5@52,5kg ( +2.5 kg )
5@62,5kg ( +2.5 kg )
4@72,5kg ( +1 rep ) , ties 4RM  :personal-record:
15@52,5kg
-Great. 4@72,5 is also a tiny but  ALL TIME predicted 1RM/BW  :personal-record: ( 0.938 vs 0.934 ).

PULLUPS:
5@BW
5@BW + 5kg
5@BW + 10kg
5@BW + 15kg , ( +1 rep ) , [BW+15] reps  :personal-record:
3@BW + 20kg , first time adding 20 kg , :personal-record:
10@BW , ties BW reps  :personal-record:
-Going from 15kg to 20kg, instead of adding another 5kg plate to the 15kg loaded, i unloaded the chain and brought in the 20kg plate, so LBSS can rightfully high-five me  8)

PAUSED STANDING CALVES RAISES MACHINE:
16@85kg ( +5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
15@85kg ( +5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
15@85kg ( +5 kg )
-Very hard. Reached limit strength here finally.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2014, 06:00:24 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2274 on: July 24, 2014, 07:21:55 am »
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Have you ever jumped in Venomenons 4? I'm about to order them today since I can't really find good enough running shoes... but I'm afraid that they will suck for me yet again (and at a high price).

Nightfly jumped ~44 inches in Venomenons 3.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2275 on: July 25, 2014, 04:44:00 am »
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10 days away from holiday off. Planning to do what i said earlier, a planned overreaching ( gym every day / big volumes / caloric surplus ). Then use the holiday time for tapering and get back to cutting again. Objections?
Also, LBSS and entropy and anyone else knowledgeable on the issue, what about intermittent fasting while bulking? Does it work or is IF meant to be used for cutting only? I workout late at night so i was thinking to go [no breakfast / no carbs lunch / eat huge after gym] , creating two fasting zones of 11-12 hours each.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2014, 08:08:21 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2276 on: July 25, 2014, 07:10:48 pm »
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25 July 2014

Bodyweight@session : forgot to check
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

Home workout:

DB ARNOLD PRESS:
4x10@10kg each hand

DB SHOULDER FLY:
3x12@10kg each hand

BICEP CONCENTRATION CURL:
3x15 each hand @10kg

HAMMER CURL:
3x12@10kg each hand

SKULL CRUSHERS:
3x12@20kg

SLOW TEMPO DB SHRUG:
3x15@10kg each hand
« Last Edit: July 26, 2014, 09:59:01 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2277 on: July 26, 2014, 09:07:24 am »
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26 July 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~85kg , too much food and alcohol last night  8)
Soreness : biceps and traps, both like 2/5.
Injuries/aches : none

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
5@20kg
5@40kg
3@60kg
2@80kg
1@100kg
1@110kg ,  1RM/BW :personal-record: ( ~1.294*BW )
10@80kg
-110kg was true 1RM. Was a grinder, not too long though, no squat-morning either, just got stuck for ~2 seconds at half squat.
I have lifted 112,5kgx1 earlier this year, but i was ~88kg. I have also a bigger predicted 1RM/BW logged from 10@90, could probably single 115-120 at that time, but I didn't. So yes, this is a true 1RM/BW all time  :personal-record:
10@80kg was nice too.

CHINUPS:
5@BW
5@BW+5kg
5@BW+10kg
5@BW+15kg
5@BW+20kg ,  ( +1 rep ) , BW+20kg reps  :personal-record:
10@BW ( +1 rep )
-Very nice.

DIPS:
5@BW
5@BW+5kg
5@BW+10kg
4@BW+15kg
13@BW , ( +1 rep ) , BW reps  :personal-record:
-Didn't do BW+20kg since i couldn't get 5@BW+15kg.
Technically 5@BW+10 and 4@BW+15 are PRs, same reps with last week but I was heavier. Whatevs.

HORIZONTAL LEG PRESS CALVES 'RAISES':
SINGLE LEG STANDING CALVES RAISES
15 each leg @BW+10kg
15 each leg @BW+10kg
15 each leg @BW+10kg
-Run out of time so no leg press again, substituted with DB SL raises at home.
« Last Edit: July 26, 2014, 11:48:50 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2278 on: July 26, 2014, 12:30:19 pm »
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Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2279 on: July 26, 2014, 09:01:17 pm »
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10 days away from holiday off. Planning to do what i said earlier, a planned overreaching ( gym every day / big volumes / caloric surplus ). Then use the holiday time for tapering and get back to cutting again. Objections?

sounds fine

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Also, LBSS and entropy and anyone else knowledgeable on the issue, what about intermittent fasting while bulking? Does it work or is IF meant to be used for cutting only? I workout late at night so i was thinking to go [no breakfast / no carbs lunch / eat huge after gym] , creating two fasting zones of 11-12 hours each.

idk, never tried that myself. my experience with cutting with fasting is that my one meal i have for dinner, feels so filling, that i'm unlikely to hit a decent surplus that way. But like all things, you can train up to and adapt to anything, so im sure if i wanted to, i could eventually adapt and eat like 3000kcal for dinner lol. Right now though, that seems absurd since i wud get full much sooner.

As far as bulking with a fast, i wud love to try that out. My gut feeling is that it wud help keep gains mostly lean and minimise fatfucking. esp since you can tightly control carbs and fats that way. But the caveat is training fasted for me seems to be suboptimal, im not as strong when i lift fasted, at least when it comes to squatting, upper body work seems much less unaffected. see how you go, it would be cool to try.

Goals: Cutting to 6-8% bodyfat