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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #480 on: July 08, 2010, 02:42:54 pm »
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Do you have to quote the workout too , just quote the relevant part , youre destroying my journal with those huge quotes! :D

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #481 on: July 08, 2010, 04:53:46 pm »
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man your bss is getting beastly!!!!!!!

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #482 on: July 08, 2010, 06:40:02 pm »
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Thanks man , i will go for 286 next session ( monday ) , that would be ~1,5xBW Cheesy
Last year's PR was 110lbs , that's 150% increase so far, with all modesty it is damn impressive!

It is damn impressive! Good job man.

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #483 on: July 08, 2010, 07:43:04 pm »
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Thanks man , i will go for 286 next session ( monday ) , that would be ~1,5xBW Cheesy
Last year's PR was 110lbs , that's 150% increase so far, with all modesty it is damn impressive!

It is damn impressive! Good job man.

ya i remember when vag was using 10 lb db's or something on his bss..

great improvements man 110 to 286 in a year or so.. sick.

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #484 on: July 08, 2010, 10:06:50 pm »
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question vag, when u do BSS, do u place the top of ur foot flat, or is the foot on its toes?
got a vid to show me how u do it? :)
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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #485 on: July 08, 2010, 10:17:48 pm »
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question vag, when u do BSS, do u place the top of ur foot flat, or is the foot on its toes?
got a vid to show me how u do it? :)

looks like top of foot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Zt0IDdQ3c&feature=player_embedded#at=23


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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #486 on: July 09, 2010, 02:15:19 am »
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ah... didnt notice vag had vids up haha.

oooh, so its alright to do them with the smith machine?
i tried BSS early in my training days, but i couldnt really balance properly when the weight was relatively heavy for me, so i stopped doing them, replacing them with squats.
BW: 74kg
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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #487 on: July 09, 2010, 03:56:25 am »
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Thanks man , i will go for 286 next session ( monday ) , that would be ~1,5xBW Cheesy
Last year's PR was 110lbs , that's 150% increase so far, with all modesty it is damn impressive!

It is damn impressive! Good job man.

ya i remember when vag was using 10 lb db's or something on his bss..

great improvements man 110 to 286 in a year or so.. sick.

Thanks guys.
Last year's PR was 110 on smith machine.
This year i started with 18lbs dumbells , lol , so this year was 36--->275
I think that my improvement in BSS also had to do with glutes-oriented squatting that i focused this year, ive tried to do everything mentioned in this kellyb article :

http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/noglutes.html

In there it links to those 2 great vids:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsoyHoQU4O4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsoyHoQU4O4</a>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znPFEAtk8QE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znPFEAtk8QE</a>

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ah... didnt notice vag had vids up haha.

oooh, so its alright to do them with the smith machine?
i tried BSS early in my training days, but i couldnt really balance properly when the weight was relatively heavy for me, so i stopped doing them, replacing them with squats.

About the front foot you asked earlier, its flat , no weight under it either , flat on the floor.
Smith machine helps exactly this balance part. Its pretty difficult to balance on 1 foot with a bar on your back , especially as it starts getting heavy. In the beginning you can try dumbells , balance is good with them. I stopped using dumbells when i started having grip problems , ~58lbs in each hand if i remember well...
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #488 on: July 09, 2010, 04:00:57 am »
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no i was asking abt the back foot haha. cos i had trouble balancing, when the rear foot was flat...
think if i ever start doin BSS again, i'll do it on the smith. mayb that'll help..
BW: 74kg
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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #489 on: July 09, 2010, 04:10:04 am »
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no i was asking abt the back foot haha. cos i had trouble balancing, when the rear foot was flat...
think if i ever start doin BSS again, i'll do it on the smith. mayb that'll help..

Ok , then my back foot is something very similar to that:


But i'd suggest that you place it however feels more comfortable, what matters is that it is elevated and you don't think about it at all , focus on your lift.
Hope that helps.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #490 on: July 09, 2010, 04:21:05 am »
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ah... didnt notice vag had vids up haha.

oooh, so its alright to do them with the smith machine?
i tried BSS early in my training days, but i couldnt really balance properly when the weight was relatively heavy for me, so i stopped doing them, replacing them with squats.

it's maybe the only unilateral lift (or lift in general) that i'd use a smith machine with.. but i prefer barbell on unilaterals, so i always advise barbell walking lunge, barbell stepup, or barbell reverse lunge.. preferably barbell walking lunge.

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #491 on: July 09, 2010, 02:52:37 pm »
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9 July 2010

-7 Days Vertical Jump Cure routine.
-My usual lower body stretch routine.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #492 on: July 11, 2010, 12:31:36 pm »
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10 July 2010

-7 Days Vertical Jump Cure routine.
-My usual lower body stretch routine.

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11 July 2010

Vertical jump testing/dunks session
Weight@session : ~194
Stim : Jacked up with caffeine , ~250mg + 1 redbull


JUMPS on 9'10'' :
-1x3 SVJs : ~28'
-1x2 dropstep DLRVJs : ~31''
-1x2 1-step DLRVJs : ~32''
-1x2 full runup DLRVJs : ~33''


JUMPS on 10':
1xdropstep : ~31''
1x2-steps DLRVJs : ~32,5''
1x2 full runup DLRVJs : ~33+''

So far , so good , RVJs at 10' rim were better, last time they were average 32,5'' and getting some 33'' ,  this time it was 33'' minimum , some were probably 33,5''

Dunk attempts on 10':
~4x4 : 0/16
Fail 1 : I thought it would be cool at 6pm but it was 34'C ( 93.2 F ) in the shadow , and i was jumping in the sun!
Fail 2 : Couldnt palm the damn ball! WTF, i bought it this Friday , i could do easily windmill motion palming it when i was trying it!  >:(
Ball was pretty popped though so i got some nice off the backboard misses , also tried some lobs but couldnt get them right! Oh well...

Dunk attempts on 9'8'':
Tried 4 reverse-2haners , landed 3 off them nice, all off 2 steps.
Also landed one really hard cuffed 1-hander.

Dunk attempts on 9'10'':
-0/2 1-hand dunks , couldnt palm the ball again.
-1 hard 2-hander off 2 steps , hardest 2-hander i ever threw down at that height.

Total : ~40 max effort jumps in the sun , didnt feel tired , performance didnt drop either but i decided to terminate session to avoid overdraining.
Not bad at all , 1 month ago id go crazy with this session but all my focus is landing 10' dunk now so im not happy with that session!
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #493 on: July 12, 2010, 09:11:11 am »
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I verified how much jacked i was from caffeine yesterday:
Im using this as a reference test:
http://getyourwebsitehere.com/jswb/rttest01.html

I was geting 180 to 220 ms , best average ( 5 tries ) was 206.
Just tried it again after drinking a double espresso too , and i cant get average below 230.
Damn , what a waste , should have known better, never again a session in the sun...
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #494 on: July 12, 2010, 03:35:22 pm »
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STRENGTH BLOCK A   :  2:1:0  :  STRENGTH - STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE
STRENGTH BLOCK B   :  2:1:0  :  STRENGTH - STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE
EXPLOSIVE BLOCK A  :  1:2:0  :  STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE - EXPLOSIVE
EXPLOSIVE BLOCK B  :  1:2:0  :  STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE - EXPLOSIVE
PEAK BLOCK              :  0:0:X  :  MSEM - EXPLOSIVE - SUPERMAX
- EXPLOSIVE - MSEM
GREEN = DONE


12 July 2010

Weight@session: ~194

PEAK BLOCK ,  Workout 'C'

Depth Jumps : skipped , again because of yesterdays heavy jumping.

SUPERMAXIMAL 1/4 SQUATS:
1x3@297lbs
1x3@319lbs
1x3@330lbs
1x3@341lbs
341 = 1,75xBodyweight , ~110% 1RM.
Those turned out to be much easier than i expected. I dont use belt so i was afraid of fucking my back , but i felt no stress at all. Lets see what soreness/stim they will create...

Smith Machine was taken so couldnt do BSS.
BB LUNGES , MSEM , rest between reps ~30'' , rest between sets ~3':
2x1@209
2x1@209

CALVE RAISES:
1x15@352
1x12@396
1x12@396
Rest between sets = 1'
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?