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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3120 on: May 10, 2016, 12:55:09 pm »
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What does "taking on" mean? Huge props for what? For being "the sentient voice of reason"? Are we living in the same area or something and I wasn't aware of it? Are we knowing the same people? Maybe I'm missing something here.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3121 on: May 10, 2016, 01:50:20 pm »
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It means that I , personally, give him props, because in my own -subjective, biased and maybe totally unjustified- opinion, you and entropy tend to be very stubborn when arguing about specific issues. T0ddday contradicted you both on the exact most sensitive issues, the same day. That message was actually addressed to you and entropy. It was humor. Relax.
LBSS, i knew there was something with this expression. It is yet another native-to-english-direct-translation-error, here there is no word in between, it is not "at the same day" or "on the same day" or "in the same day", it is "the same day".
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3122 on: May 10, 2016, 02:55:24 pm »
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yeah, english prepositions are HARD. if there are rules about which to use when, i don't know them. no logical reason i can think of for something to be "on" a day, versus "at" or "in." well, except that "in a day" means "one day after the anchoring day." as in, "if you order it next monday, it'll be there in a day."
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3123 on: May 10, 2016, 02:57:03 pm »
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Sometimes people say here "I've been on a train once" when in reality it's "I've been IN a train once" (Romanian). We always laugh at the "on a train" because it means on top of the train.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3124 on: May 10, 2016, 04:53:26 pm »
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does romanian have separate words for "in" and "on"? or is it like spanish, which has one word for "in," "on," and "at"?
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

- Avishek

https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3125 on: May 11, 2016, 02:46:13 am »
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It does.

"on" = "pe"
"in" = "in"
"at" = "la"

I'm in the train = Sunt in tren
I'm at work = Sunt la lucru
I'm on the scale = Sunt pe cantar
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3126 on: May 11, 2016, 05:48:36 am »
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10 May 2016

Bodyweight@session : n/a
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

T0DDDAY-BASED ALTERNATING GYM-TRACK SPLIT

Week #4
Park day #1


Dynamic warmup

6 * standing broad jumps :
Best = ~2.25m , average = ~2.1m
-Ok.

4 * 4 DL bounds :
Best = ~9.45m , two times , ties  :personal-record:
-Sweet, feeling bouncy.

3 * 60m @ 100% :
-Didn't time, just went 100% with free hands, gonna do them like that for a while, eventually i will film for time.

1 * 100m @ 100% :
-Low 15s , self-hand-timed, 1 have run below 16 only two times in my life, one 15.3 and one 14.9. So this was great, note that I rested only 3 mins from the max 60s.

8 * 150m @ 75% , start every 2 minutes
-This is easy now. In the end i still accumulate some fatigue but there is notable progress at keeping the 75% pace and recovering during the 90s of walk-back-to-start.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2016, 04:51:09 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3127 on: May 11, 2016, 05:56:08 am »
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Wow, 8x150m... I would need two weeks to do that.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3128 on: May 11, 2016, 02:41:55 pm »
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Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3129 on: May 13, 2016, 05:31:20 am »
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12 May 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~85.75kg
Soreness : some minor gutes and calves, a little more hamstrings, destroyed abs
Injuries/aches : none

T0DDDAY-BASED ALTERNATING GYM-TRACK SPLIT

Week #4
Gym day #1

HANG POWER CLEAN:
5@20kg
5@30kg
3@40kg
3@50kg
3@52,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
3@55kg ( +5 kg )
-Very good, extremely powerful and fast.

SQUAT:
4@80kg
7@70kg
7@70kg
-Good, good, looks like fatigue is going down for good. Was good for more but want to build up slowly from lighter weight.

BENCH PRESS:
5@62,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@62,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@62,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
15@50kg ( 5 kg ) , ( -5 reps )
-Very strong.

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
7@BW ( +1 rep )
6@BW
6@BW ( +1 rep )
LAT PULLDOWN DROP-SET: 20@130lbs
-Some progress here too.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3130 on: May 17, 2016, 04:50:12 am »
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16 May 2016

Bodyweight@session : n/a
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

T0DDDAY-BASED ALTERNATING GYM-TRACK SPLIT

Week #5
Park day #1


Dynamic warmup

4 * standing broad jumps :
Best = ~2.1m
-Lower than lately.

3 * 4 DL bounds :
Best = ~9.45m , ties  :personal-record:
-Nice, because they felt crap.

3 * 60m @ 100% :
-Timed one, definitely below 10, nice.

1@150m @ 80% : ~30s
90s rest
1@150m @ 90% : ~27s
3 mins rest
1@150m @ 100% : ~low 24s ,  :personal-record:

Was not a good day, felt uncoordinated. Also was very short on time, had to cut down volume. Still got PRs, great surprise.
Sprints felt different, in a good way, i felt I was bouncing of the floor. Feel good for even more.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3131 on: May 18, 2016, 03:54:59 am »
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17 May 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~85.5kg
Soreness : hamstrings, calves(!), abs, quads, all minor
Injuries/aches : none

T0DDDAY-BASED ALTERNATING GYM-TRACK SPLIT

Week #5
Gym day #2

HANG POWER CLEAN:
5@20kg
5@30kg
3@40kg
2@50kg
1@60kg
1@65kg
0@70kg
-Decided to go for 1RM. Went good. 60kg very easy, 65kg fairly easy, 70kg PR closer than ever.

SQUAT:
6@20kg
5@40kg
4@60kg
3@80kg
2@90kg
-Nah, still broken. Sux.

BENCH PRESS:
5@62,5kg
5@62,5kg
5@62,5kg
17@50kg ( +2 reps )
-Solid.

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
7@BW
6@BW
6@BW
LAT PULLDOWN DROP-SET: 20@130lbs
-Sweet.

Felt pretty strong besides the squats. Great power at HPC, good strength at bench and pulls. And then i looked back at earlier this year:

21 November 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~87kg , oops, it is dropping

HANG POWER CLEAN:
5@25kg
5@35kg
3@45kg
3@55kg
3@65kg ( +1 rep ) , lifetime 3RM  :personal-record: , lifetime predicted 1RM  :personal-record:

1 December 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~87,5kg

BENCH PRESS:
5@70kg
5@70kg ( +1 rep )
5@70kg ( +1 rep )
17@55kg ( +2 reps ) ,  high-rep lifetime :personal-record:
-3x5@70 is also some kind of  :personal-record: , i have done 6@70 for one set but i am stronger now, felt like i could do 7 or 8 at first set. Barely made 5th rep at last set though.

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
10@BW , ties  :personal-record:
8@BW ( +1 rep )
6@BW
LAT PULLDOWN : 16@150lbs ( +1 rep )
-Total reps lifetime :personal-record:


12 December 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~88kg

ATG PAUSED SQUAT:
5@87,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , 5RM  :personal-record: , predicted 1RM  :personal-record:
5@87,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ties the above PR
5@87,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ties the above PR
MEBM SQUAT ( no pause ) : 20@70kg , ties :personal-record:

Just 2-3kg heavier back then but MUCH much stronger at everything. I guess that is the price to pay for consistent track work ( bounds & sprints )? Makes sense or should i reconsider things?
It is not like i was sitting on my butt since then anyway, i have been working out consistent and ultra hard all those months in between. Or is this exactly the reason, am i still fatigued, have i not milked the gains and just need to give it some more time?
What do you guys think?
« Last Edit: May 19, 2016, 05:16:43 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3132 on: May 19, 2016, 02:15:39 am »
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damn.. im not sure to be honest.

the sprint/bound work you're doing shouldn't be killing your strength, IMHO..  It should actually be helping it. Perhaps 1 rest day following the track workout, then lifting would have produced much better results? for example, your cns could just be too friend to lift the day after.

the thing that's weird is the "still broken part".. you just feel completely dead under the bar? that's also going to carry over to your hang power clean i'd imagine.. so if you're feeling dead and hitting near PR's on HPC, I imagine you probably have alot more in the tank.

but I really don't know.. the fact that you've been "dead" when it comes to squatting and such for so long, that's the odd thing.

perhaps you could try adding in the rest day prior to lifting.. and/or getting in extra calories the day prior.. also perhaps some caffeine? dno just something to try and get you out of this "broken/dead" feeling.

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3133 on: May 19, 2016, 03:00:51 am »
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He's probably in some kind of chronic fatigue phase right now... reminds me of the Dan Pfaff "acute relieving syndrome" vs "chronic fatigue syndrome" antithesis.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3134 on: May 19, 2016, 05:13:45 am »
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damn.. im not sure to be honest.

the sprint/bound work you're doing shouldn't be killing your strength, IMHO..  It should actually be helping it. Perhaps 1 rest day following the track workout, then lifting would have produced much better results? for example, your cns could just be too friend to lift the day after.

the thing that's weird is the "still broken part".. you just feel completely dead under the bar? that's also going to carry over to your hang power clean i'd imagine.. so if you're feeling dead and hitting near PR's on HPC, I imagine you probably have alot more in the tank.

but I really don't know.. the fact that you've been "dead" when it comes to squatting and such for so long, that's the odd thing.

perhaps you could try adding in the rest day prior to lifting.. and/or getting in extra calories the day prior.. also perhaps some caffeine? dno just something to try and get you out of this "broken/dead" feeling.

He's probably in some kind of chronic fatigue phase right now... reminds me of the Dan Pfaff "acute relieving syndrome" vs "chronic fatigue syndrome" antithesis.


Yes, it is not CNS, CNS is fine. Power movements feel great, i keep getting sprints and bounds lifetime PRs weekly, push press and HPC are pretty close to lifetime PRs too. Other weight exercises are fine too, i am having steady linear progress at everything. If i allowed this 2-3 kg weight gain to match the BW of those quoted PRS i am sure i would match and top them within a month or so.
It is all about quads and squat, there is this fatigue/soreness/slight pain feeling at both eccentric and concentric, around the sticking point ( half to quarter squat depth ), at the middle of vastus lateralis.
It is either some kind of chronic fatigue from the GPP program, too much tightness, OR , i am injured, i strained it somewhere in the way and didn't notice. I doubt the last one though.
I am leaning towards incredible tightness, i am still not stretching or doing anything about mobility/SMR at all. I've been going practically non-stop for 8 months, at pretty intense volume and intensity, on and off the weight room, yet i am stretching like once every 2 months. Duh!
« Last Edit: May 19, 2016, 05:15:28 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?