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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2790 on: August 26, 2015, 01:45:59 pm »
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Plan for new season:
Feel like getting back to my old habits, gain as much mass and strength as i can till ~February, lean down and peak till next summer.
Important tweaks:
-O-lifts : Keep doing them all year round, add snatches besides HPC.
-Pchain : i have been neglecting glutes work. Gotta keep regular with lunges/BSS.
-Core : constantly neglected. Must do as often as possible, abs and back work.
-Stretch/SMR: Has to become a daily thing, it ain't that hard.
-Cardio : Also as much as possible, even LISS when beat from the weights, gotta stay as fit/lean as i can.
-Jumps : I am never jumping enough, not even close. Must keep at it, even in the winter with SVJs/dropsteps/DJs at home.
-Upper : pump up the volume. Add an accessory exercise for every main lift i do.
-Nutrition : Moar protein. I am at ~100g on off days, 150-200 at gym days. Gotta add 50g to that.
-Sleep : I am a night owl. Always have been. Not gonna change. But i could just deal with it more active, try to go to bed earlier, every hour is a gain.
Program : nothing fancy, i will do something like 3x5 with 15-20 reps finisher at all main lifts , 3x10-12 at accessory stuff.

Nothing out of this word, consistency is the key.

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Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2791 on: August 26, 2015, 08:17:20 pm »
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With a couple of exceptions this is exactly what I'm looking at doing.
"Train as hard as possible, as often as possible, while staying as fresh as possible"
- Zatsiorsky

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2792 on: August 27, 2015, 05:21:00 am »
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Yup, i've noticed our training philosophy is pretty similar in many aspects. I'd like to get to where you are body-wise too, 90-ish kg lean-ish is more appealing to me than 80-ish super-lean.
For now i am ~85kg/15% though so not close to either one, hahaha  :uhhhfacepalm:

Yesterday:
-7 days vetical jump cure routine.
-IT band and quads foam rolling
-Static stretching.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2793 on: August 27, 2015, 08:08:53 pm »
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Yup, i've noticed our training philosophy is pretty similar in many aspects. I'd like to get to where you are body-wise too, 90-ish kg lean-ish is more appealing to me than 80-ish super-lean.
For now i am ~85kg/15% though so not close to either one, hahaha  :uhhhfacepalm:

Where I was you mean :(  Unfortunately I'm sitting at 96 right now. Goal is 92-3 and around the 10% mark. By Christmas time hopefully.
"Train as hard as possible, as often as possible, while staying as fresh as possible"
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2794 on: August 28, 2015, 05:51:05 am »
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Well let's meet at 90kg by Christmas, we both have 6-7kg to go! :highfive:

27 August 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~83,5kg
Soreness : quads, hamstrings, abductors, chest, lats, biceps. All light though.
Injuries/aches : none

HANG POWER SNATCH
5@20kg
5@25kg
5@30kg
5@35kg
3@40kg
-Very pleasant surprise! 50kg is my PR and 3@40kg was easy/smooth/strict. Guess the HPC work carries over.

RDL:
8@60kg
8@70kg
6@80kg
-Grip gave up as expected. No worries, it always catches up fast.

BB LUNGE:
6 each leg @ 30kg
6 each leg @ 30kg
6 each leg @ 30kg
-Started very light. Good choice, glutes are torched next morning.

UPRIGHT BB ROW:
3x12@25kg

BICEPS CURLS:
3x12@20kg

TRICEPS PUSHDOWN:
3x12@100lbs
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2795 on: August 28, 2015, 06:28:35 pm »
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28 August 2015

Bodyweight@session : ?
Soreness : hamstrings & glutes much, quads, biceps, triceps, shoulders less
Injuries/aches : none

Went to the park. Shot around for ~45'. Very out of it as expected. Very stiff, slow, unfit. Butt and hamstrings hurting at every step didnt help either.
Did some jumps at the end, was getting repeatable 10'4'' / 29''. Could squeeze 30'' but didn't, no point. Not that bad considering.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2796 on: August 30, 2015, 06:07:40 am »
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29 August 2015

Bodyweight@session : ?
Soreness : quads, glutes, hamstrings, mostly quads.
Injuries/aches : none

Forgot that gym is still on summer working hours, hot there too late , FML.
Attempted to compensate with home workout:

DB SWINGS : 4x10@10kg

ARNOLD PRESSES : 4x10@10kg each hand

SHOULDER DB FLYS : 3x12@10kg each hand

SHRUGS : 4x15@10kg each hand

DB BENT ROW : 4x10 each hand @ 20kg
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2797 on: September 01, 2015, 05:01:35 am »
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31 August 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~84,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

HANG POWER CLEAN
5@20kg
5@30kg
5@40kg
3@50kg
3@55kg
-Nice, already an easy triple @55.

ATG PAUSED SQUAT:
5@65kg , ATG paused
5@65kg , ATG, paused
5@65kg , ATG, paused
MEBM SQUAT ( no pause ) : 20@50kg

BENCH PRESS:
5@55kg
5@55kg
5@55kg
12@45kg

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
6@BW
6@BW
6@BW
LAT PULLDOWN : 15@120lbs

So i added the drop-sets. Body still out of it, finding back the movements groove.
Next week i add the assistance too and then it is just progressing it.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2015, 02:54:53 pm by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2798 on: September 01, 2015, 09:43:36 am »
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"finding back the movements groove."  :lololol:

y'all write really well in english but from time to time i get a funny reminder that you're furrin.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2799 on: September 01, 2015, 10:06:49 am »
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I guess it sounded Greek to you!  :wowthatwasnutswtf:
What was wrong? 'finding back' , 'movements groove', both? i was trying to say that body is slowly catching up, movement starts to feel more natural but not there yet.

ALSO, i know you are not mocking but correcting and it is useful and educational all and bla bla bla but grammar/syntax correction posts still feel annoying and aggressive and offensive to me. Even more to foreigners. Also not towards me, towards anyone. I notice many mistakes all the time too but i don't mention them. I know i am wrong but it doesn't change how i feel.
So fuck you, you obnoxious arrogant grammar nazi!!! Ahhhh, nice, I feel much better now  :P
« Last Edit: September 01, 2015, 10:08:38 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2800 on: September 01, 2015, 10:14:08 am »
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hey man i'm sorry to offend you or come across as aggressive. it's from a place of love, in general and also specifically of how language works, how our brains work. i'm fascinated by the way nonnative speakers speak english (and even by the way different native speakers speak), so it's fun for me when you or raptor or scooby posts something that's absolutely understandable but not quite a construction that any native speaker would make. same goes for myself when i speak spanish, noticing the mistakes that i make or the things i'm not quite sure how to say now that i've lost the near-native fluency i had 6-7 years ago.

no idea comments like that bothered you but i'll lay off them if so.

ETA: i actually am kind of a grammar nazi, or, really, a plain/clear language nazi, but only at work. and i work with a lot of nonnative speakers, so a big chunk of my job is cleaning up formal writing. in informal communication the only thing that matters is that people understand each other. the rest is nitpicking. i happen to enjoy the nitpicking, but it's a niche hobby.  ::)

ETA2: if you are interested i'll tell you why that phrase stuck out to me, but if not i'll just shut up.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2015, 10:19:11 am by LBSS »
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2801 on: September 01, 2015, 10:28:03 am »
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lol, tell me already, i asked.
First paragraph was useless, no reason to apologize or explain, i never had any doubts about the intentions and innocence of those posts. Its not you, its me, i said i know i am wrong.
Oh and it does create some very funny/awkward results indeed  when people use the syntax and idiomatic expressions of their own language in direct translation to the language they use.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2015, 10:32:24 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2802 on: September 01, 2015, 11:45:47 am »
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okay then. couple things:

1. you can't "find back" something. you can find it (or, in this case, find it again), or you can get it back. native speakers with different dialects (looking at the australians), feel free to correct me, but those words just don't work together like that in american.
2. "the movements groove" doesn't quite work. did you mean "the movements' grooves" (i.e. the grooves belonging to the movements)? because that would be odd but technically correct.
3. because of the way "groove" is used idiomatically, that whole construction is just not something that a native speaker would come up with. that's why it's so interesting: it makes sense, it absolutely gets the idea across, i'd just never think to string those words together in that way. i'd go with, "getting back in the groove," and if i wanted to be clear that i meant it in the "greasing the groove" sense i'd add "of the different movements."
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2803 on: September 01, 2015, 02:53:32 pm »
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Yup, that was it, finding the groove of the movements. 'back' was meant to denote that i am not finding a new movement groove but one i had in the past and lost ( due to de-training ), again as you said. It is what i mentioned indeed, direct Greek to English translation, words adding up, sentence making sense, but sentence is still 'weird'. And i'd never know. I agree it is fascinating.

1 September 2015

Bodyweight@session : ?
Soreness : quads very much, glutes, chest, lasts pretty much.
Injuries/aches : none

Shoot around / layups for 45'. Finding back the movements groove here too (  LBSS : :pissed: )
Some jumps in the end. Repeatable 29'' dropstep /30'' RVJ, very happy with that with all the rustiness and soreness considered.
Foam roll IT bands and quads. PAIN!
Stretch.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2015, 03:10:07 pm by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2804 on: September 03, 2015, 05:41:06 am »
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2 Septembet 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~84,75kg
Soreness : quads, hamstrings, abductors, glutes.
Injuries/aches : none

HANG POWER SNATCH
5@20kg
5@30kg ( +5 kg )
5@35kg ( +5 kg )
3@40kg ( +5 kg ) , ( -2 reps )
2@42,5kg ( +5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )

RDL:
8@70kg ( +10 kg )
8@70kg
8@70kg ( -10 kg ) , ( +2 reps )

BB LUNGE:
6 each leg @ 35kg ( +5 kg )
6 each leg @ 35kg ( +5 kg )
6 each leg @ 35kg ( +5 kg )

UPRIGHT BB ROW:
10@30kg ( +5 kg ) , ( +2 reps )
10@30kg ( +5 kg ) , ( +2 reps )
10@30kg ( +5 kg ) , ( +2 reps )
10@30kg ( extra set )

BB CURL:
10@25kg ( +5 kg ) , ( +2 reps )
10@25kg ( +5 kg ) , ( +2 reps )
10@25kg ( +5 kg ) , ( +2 reps )
10@25kg ( extra set )

TRICEPS PUSHDOWN:
10@120lbs ( +20 lbs) , ( +2 reps )
10@120lbs ( +20 lbs) , ( +2 reps )
10@120lbs ( +20 lbs) , ( +2 reps )
10@120lbs ( extra set )

45° BACK EXTENSION:
12@BW
12@BW
12@BW
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?