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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2775 on: August 01, 2015, 06:56:56 pm »
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I can't. I have no glute control while with both legs planted etc. It's complicated.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2776 on: August 01, 2015, 07:15:20 pm »
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You can't flex your glutes while standing?
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2777 on: August 01, 2015, 08:30:43 pm »
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I can, if my knees are straight. Once they start to approach a half-squat depth, getting the glutes to fired requires a tremendous amount of effort. Like, actively thinking about that happening like crazy. No wonder my half squat sucks.

On the other hand, the glute recruitment becomes better if I just push the hips back, like in a RDL. But once the knees bend (knees travel forward) as in a jump or half squat, the glutes are being turned off.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2778 on: August 02, 2015, 09:04:56 am »
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Updated the final results in my original post of the [HANG POWER CLEAN QUEST]+ [LANCE REST-PAUSE UPPER] ROUTINE :


RESULTS ( 20 weeks ):

BW : ~87kg ----> ~84kg ( average wet weight at session )

HANG POWER CLEAN : 55kg max ---> 65kg max ( PR )

SQUAT : Played around with it a lot, front squats, paused, MSEM, MEBM, 3RM etc.
Was improving each one but can't report an overall progress.
Only at half squat that i did consistent : 5@110kg ---> 5@140kg ( PR )

RDL : 3x8@85kg ---> 8-8-7@90-95-100kg

BENCH: 12-8-7@55kg ---> 10-7-6@62,5kg

PULLUPS : 7-5-4 ---> 8-7-6 ( PR )

DB ROW : 12-10-8@30kg ---> 10-10-10@36kg

UPRIGHT ROW : 10-10-8@30kg ---> 4x10@35kg

And last but not least, the jumps:
SVJ : 26'' ---> 27''
Dropstep : 30'' ---> 30'5''
1-Step : 30'' ---> 31''
2-Steps : 29'' ---> 31''
3-Steps : n/a ---> 31,5''

Great success overall, absolute strength increase in everything with a 3kg weight loss too.
A few lifetime PRs in there, season PR in all jumps.
Wanted better progress at HPC but can't complain much, i got a 18% absolute and 23% relative strength increase ( 0,63BW-->0.78BW ) while resetting form and making it as much pure hip-power driven as possible.
Good job!

Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2779 on: August 02, 2015, 11:04:06 am »
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 :highfive: :highfive: :highfive: :highfive:
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2780 on: August 03, 2015, 06:02:54 am »
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Thanks!

2 August 2015

Bodyweight@session : ?
Soreness : sore quads, hamstrings, glutes, calves
Injuries/aches : none


Went to the park. Jogged a mile, relaxed, didn't even time it.
Then tried some jumps, SVJ and dropstep were good ( 27'' / 30'' ) but then i couldn't get over 30'' with more steps.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2781 on: August 04, 2015, 06:32:57 am »
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3 August 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~84kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

HANG POWER CLEAN
5@20kg
3@30kg
2@40kg
1@50kg
1@60kg
0@67,5
0@67,5
1@65kg, ties  :personal-record:
3@60kg , 3RM  :personal-record:
0@70kg
-Decided to attempt a double on 60kg after the heavy singles. To my surprise i got a triple.
Then i psyched up for the 70kg huge 1RM PR. Was very very close. But not there.

DEADLIFT:
5@50kg
4@70kg
3@90kg
2@110kg
1@130kg
5@90kg
5@90kg
-Felt something in my left arm during the 130kg so played it safe and didn't go for PR.

BENCH PRESS:
10@50kg
9@50kg ( +1 rep )
8@50kg
Drop-set: 14@40kg
-Nice. Embarrassingly weak but nice. It will go up, i know.

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
8@BW ( -1 rep )
7@BW ( +1 rep )
7@BW ( +1 rep )
Total = 22 reps  ( +1 rep ):personal-record:
Drop-set: Lat-Pulldown: 11@150lbs
-Lost the first set PR of last time but got the total reps PR. Looks like a tug of war.

STANDING PAUSED CALF RAISE MACHINE ( 1:1:5 ):
8@BW+80kg
8@BW+80kg
8@BW+80kg
8@BW+80kg
-Exhausting but awesome.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2782 on: August 05, 2015, 06:51:06 am »
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4 August 2015

Bodyweight@session : ?
Soreness : lower back, chest, lats, calves
Injuries/aches : none

Went to the park. Same story with 2 days ago.
Jogged a relaxed mile (~11 mins ). Then did some jumps, again SVJ and dropstep were good ( 27'' / 30'' ) but then i couldn't get over 30'' with more steps.
Legs are beat. They need rest. But rest is here, got a couple more sessions before i leave for summer holidays.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2783 on: August 05, 2015, 05:56:14 pm »
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5 August 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~84,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : legs way too tight

HANG POWER CLEAN
5@20kg
3@30kg
2@40kg
1@50kg
1@60kg
1@67,5 ,  :personal-record:  :personal-record:  :personal-record:
-Got it. Knew i would, 60kg flew up. Maybe had 70 but straight up if i didnt do 67,5, no way i had a 2nd PR in me.

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
5@20kg
5@40kg
5@60kg
5@80kg
-Aaaand i gave up. Weight was very light but legs were no go, too tight, stressed, tired. That's it for the season.

SEATED NEUTRAL GRIP DB OHP:
10@18kg each hand
10@18kg each hand
10@18kg each hand
10@18kg each hand

BENT OVER DB ROW:
10 each hand @ 30kg
10 each hand @ 30kg
10 each hand @ 30kg
10 each hand @ 30kg

That was it. No more gym, one session tomorrow and im off.
Well timed, seriously need rest.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2015, 06:33:48 pm by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2784 on: August 06, 2015, 05:49:42 pm »
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6 August 2015

Did some arms work at home

DB CURLS: 3x12@10kg each hand

DB HAMMER CURLS: 3x10@10kg each hand

TRICEPS DB EXTENSIONS: 3x15@10kg

TRICEPS BENCH DIP: 3x10@BW

UPRIGHT DB ROW : 4x12@10kg each hand
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2785 on: August 08, 2015, 04:15:16 am »
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7 August 2015

Did a dynamic warmup and then attempted some jumps to close the season with jumping PRs.
Instead i got one of the worse jumping session ever, lol. Legs were off, very very tight quads. Had a few plant collapses and even warmup 25'' submax RVJs hurt a lot at takeoff. Still tried to suck it up and see if they would loosen up on the way.
They didn't, felt shit and max height was 29''.  :uhhhfacepalm:

Holiday time!!!

Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2786 on: August 08, 2015, 04:29:53 am »
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Enjoy your time off mate.
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2787 on: August 24, 2015, 01:00:21 pm »
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^^^Thanks, so i did!
Holiday-wise, everything was awesome.
Training-wise, total off. No training at all, no stretching at all, no nutrition watching at all, nothing. No disaster either, around the same weight, just a tad fatter.
Totally worth it. Back on track tomorrow, season plan soon.
:lololol:
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2788 on: August 24, 2015, 02:12:50 pm »
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^^^Thanks, so i did!
Holiday-wise, everything was awesome.
Training-wise, total off. No training at all, no stretching at all, no nutrition watching at all, nothing. No disaster either, around the same weight, just a tad fatter.
Totally worth it. Back on track tomorrow, season plan soon.
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2789 on: August 26, 2015, 04:10:59 am »
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25 August 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~84kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

HANG POWER CLEAN
5@20kg
5@30kg
5@40kg
4@50kg
-Better than expected. Easy for legs, hard for wrists/grip.

ATG PAUSED SQUAT:
5@20kg
5@40kg
5@50kg
5@60kg
5@70kg
-Better than expected. Very light on back.

BENCH PRESS:
5@20kg
5@30kg
5@40kg
5@50kg
4@60kg
-As expected.

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
6@BW
6@BW
6@BW
-Little better than expected.

Nice, didn't feel that rusty, didn't get any cramping ETC, DOMS next morning is still not here ( although i know i ain't skipping it ).
BW exactly where i left it, but that is coming from nothing, i guess workout+increased eating+glycogen+water will shoot it up 1-2kg the following days.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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