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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2745 on: July 17, 2015, 04:40:52 am »
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16 July 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~84kg
Soreness : stiff quads, i wonder why, lol
Injuries/aches : none

[HANG POWER CLEAN QUEST]+ [LANCE REST-PAUSE UPPER] ROUTINE

Workout #48( Week #19)

MUSCLE CLEANS:
5@20kg
5@30kg
5@40kg
5@45kg
5@50kg ( +1 rep )
-Getting good at them.

HALF SQUAT:
5@20kg
5@60kg
5@80kg
5@100kg
5@120kg
5@140kg ( +5 kg ) , ( -depth )
-Fuck, quads were too tight/stiff. Couldn't go lower than 1/3, quads actually hurted.
Pity i can't count the lifetime PR of 1RM/BW (1.88 ). Next week.

UPRIGHT BB ROW:
10@35kg
10@35kg
10@35kg
8@35kg ( -1 rep )
-Typical, as i get better hold of the weight i go slower so i end up doing less reps.

BICEPS BB CURL:
10@30kg
10@30kg
9@30kg
8@30kg
-Better control here too, no rep loss either.

TRICEPS PUSHDOWN:
10@140lbs
10@140lbs
10@140lbs
9@140lbs ( +1 rep )
-Nice and strong.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2746 on: July 18, 2015, 07:33:51 am »
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18 July 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~84kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

[HANG POWER CLEAN QUEST]+ [LANCE REST-PAUSE UPPER] ROUTINE

Workout #49( Week #19)

HANG POWER CLEAN
Was sort on time , skipped.

HIGH BAR ATG PAUSED SQUAT:
5@20kg
5@40kg
5@60kg
5@75kg
3@90kg ( +1 rep )
MEBM : 20@60kg , no pause
-Happy with the 90kg triple and the overall paused performance. MEBM is brutal.

SEATED NEUTRAL GRIP DB OHP
10@18kg each hand
10@18kg each hand
9@18kg each hand ( -1 rep )
8@18kg each hand ( -2 reps )
-Small regress here. Shorter breaks/deeper ROM/slower pace is the reason.

BENT OVER DB ROW:
10 each hand @ 36kg
10 each hand @ 36kg
10 each hand @ 36kg
20 each hand @ 26kg
-26kg dropset got easy, should have done heavier.

SEATED PAUSED CALF RAISE:
STANDING SL PAUSED CALF RAISE:
15 each leg @ BW
15 each leg @ BW
15 each leg @ BW
-Strong.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2747 on: July 18, 2015, 10:40:41 am »
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quads too stiff to half squat? what are you, 85? that's weird.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2748 on: July 18, 2015, 03:45:43 pm »
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quads too stiff to half squat? what are you, 85? that's weird.

Felt that at 30, quite a few times.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2749 on: July 18, 2015, 07:31:00 pm »
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Well, i am not sure if stiff that i used was the right word. I mean that mixed tight/sore feeling. Similar to after stressing legs a lot, like the day after an all out competitive bball game.
Also, I was referring to my top set only, that was also not clear. Up to 120kg i had no problems. It may be just half squats but 5x140kg is around 150-160% 1RM and the heaviest i have put on my back in 4-5 years.
But still, that comment was another self-reminder that i should start stretching and foam rolling again. I was feeling the same 'stiffness' a couple of months back, i got into daily SMR to fix it, it worked, then i stopped and it is back. And yet i still don't SMR. FML.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2750 on: July 20, 2015, 06:34:05 pm »
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20 July 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~84,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : left lower back pull?

[HANG POWER CLEAN QUEST]+ [LANCE REST-PAUSE UPPER] ROUTINE

Workout #50, ( Week #20)

HANG POWER CLEAN
5@20kg
3@30kg
2@40kg
1@50kg
1@60kg
0@65kg
1@65kg , ties  :personal-record:
-Back didn't bug. Had the 'bad' bar ( bended from weights, not good for cleans ). Still tied PR, great.

RDL:
8@90kg
7@95kg ( -1 reps )
6@100kg ( -1 reps )
-Back didn't bug but was feeling cautious/afraid.

BENCH PRESS:
10@20kg
10@30kg
10@40kg
8@50kg
3@60kg
13@40kg
-Have been reviewing my form and many BP form articles lately and decided to reset myself.
Significant load decrease, but also significant form improvement feeling. Was really bench pressing now.

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
6@BW ( -2 reps )
5@BW ( -1 rep )
5@BW
Lat-Pulldown:
10@150lbs
10@150lbs
-Back really bugged at those, had to cancel third pullup set and replace with lat pulldowns.

STANDING PAUSED CALF RAISE MACHINE:
10@BW+40kg
8@BW+50kg
8@BW+60kg
8@BW+70kg
5@BW+8kg
-Chanced tempo from 1:0:1 to 1:1:5. Dunno why, got tired of 3x30.
Back bugged here too on the last heavier sets. Compromised performance.

So i managed to pull/strain my left lower back this morning by... sneezing!!! Being an old fragile fart sucks bigtime!!! :uhhhfacepalm:  >:(  :pissed:
Trained through it keeping it safe. Went fine considering.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2751 on: July 21, 2015, 05:09:07 pm »
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21 July 2015

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

RUNS & JUMPS SESSION :

1 MILE RUN :
Time : 8m:50s
Average speed : ~10.9 kmh
Pace : ~5m:31s / km
-Was extremely hot. Hottest day of the summer so far. Also haven't run a fast mile for over a month.
However got my 3d fastest time ever, only 20s shy of PR. Very nice!!!

TODDDAY METHOD JUMPS:
SVJ :  max 26''
Dropstep : max 30''
1-step DLRVJ : max 30''
2-steps DLRVJ : max 30''
3-steps DLRVJ : max 30,5'' , ties season best, 3-steps RVJ season  :personal-record:
-I was not supposed to move out to even 2 steps, but although the max height was not improving, the feeling was.
And i was right, 3-steps felt the most powerful and got the highest jump too.
Awesome considering i haven't jumped for 2 weeks.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2752 on: July 23, 2015, 05:29:44 am »
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23 July 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~84,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

[HANG POWER CLEAN QUEST]+ [LANCE REST-PAUSE UPPER] ROUTINE

Workout #48( Week #19)

MUSCLE CLEANS:
5@20kg
5@30kg
5@40kg
5@45kg
5@50kg
-Nice.

HALF SQUAT:
5@20kg
5@60kg
5@80kg
5@100kg
5@120kg
5@140kg
-This time i got my top set depth right. So i can claim it , 1RM/BW = 1.87 , lifetime  :personal-record:  :wowthatwasnutswtf:
To be honest, power-wise i liked the 120 set even more. They were shockingly fast for 120. But 140 has the hype of 3 plates.

UPRIGHT BB ROW:
10@35kg
10@35kg
10@35kg
10@35kg ( +2 reps )
-Great.

BICEPS BB CURL:
10@30kg
10@30kg
10@30kg  ( +1 rep )
8@30kg
-Great.

TRICEPS PUSHDOWN:
10@140lbs
10@140lbs
10@140lbs
10@140lbs ( +1 rep )
-Great.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2753 on: July 23, 2015, 06:19:03 am »
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I don't think I could be able to half squat 140x5 with my 150 1RM.

By the way - where do you feel the "load" when you're doing the half squats? Like, do you feel the "knees" are loaded or the "hips" are loaded more? (yes, I know, very difficult to determine, but I definitely feel the knees loaded a heck-of-a-lot more than the hips)
« Last Edit: July 23, 2015, 06:20:38 am by Raptor »
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2754 on: July 23, 2015, 09:55:09 am »
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i'm with raptor, my knees are strained very heavily (uncomfortably so) during half squats. much, much more so than during full squats.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2755 on: July 23, 2015, 10:49:39 am »
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In fact, I would say a "full" squat (below parallel or whatever) is more "comfortable" or "accessible" than a half squat.

Not sure how good that sounds for someone who wants to jump high. Every good jumper I know would disagree with this statement strongly (except for people like Kingfish or guys who jump very high from a standstill).
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2756 on: July 23, 2015, 11:02:11 am »
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I feel much better with halves than full squats. But i am not a good jumper, lol. Full squat has never felt comfortable for me. Too long legs, too short torso, i feel i have to descent forever, and when i reach down i feel that everything is at a wrong/abnormal angle&place. But I still do my best, gotta keep those VMOs involved.
Also, FWIW, i feel no stress at all at the knee area with halves, all the muscular stress is at the outter quads ( and no VMO ) , all the joint stress is at the hip joint.
But then again, i feel no stress at all at the knees whatever i do. They are bionic. I can still go do ME jump sessions on concrete and never feel a thing. Cross your fingers though, just in case :P
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2757 on: July 23, 2015, 11:56:25 am »
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Wow, so different.
Current PR status:

All time squat: 165 kg/Old age squat: 130 kg
All time deadlift: 184 kg/Old age deadlift: 140 kg
All time bench: 85 kg/Old age bench: 70kgx5reps
All time hip thrust (same as old age hip thrust): 160kgx5reps

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2758 on: July 23, 2015, 06:38:22 pm »
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23 July 2015

Bodyweight@session : ?
Soreness : outer quads
Injuries/aches : none

5 KM JOG :
Time : 42m 30s
Average speed : ~7kmh
Pace : ~8m:30s / km
-Went very easy and controlled, wanted just a nice LISS session.
Body kept wanting to pick up the pace and i had to deliberately slow down all the time.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2759 on: July 24, 2015, 04:35:19 pm »
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24 July 2015

Bodyweight@session : ?
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

TODDDAY METHOD JUMPS:
SVJ :  max 27'' , ties season best, ties post injury  :personal-record: , repeatable!  :wowthatwasnutswtf:
Dropstep : max 30''
1-step DLRVJ : max 31'' , ties season best , repeatable!  :wowthatwasnutswtf:
2-steps DLRVJ : max 31'' , ties season best, repeatable!  :wowthatwasnutswtf:
3-steps DLRVJ : max 31,5'' , SEASON BEST, ties post injury  :personal-record:  :wowthatwasnutswtf:
-31,5'' for me is 10'6,5'' , touching rim with the soft base of palm. Got it twice. Damn it feels so good!!!
:ibjumping:  :ibjumping:  :ibjumping:   :ibjumping:  :ibjumping:
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?